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Loses points for starting the tweet with "ummm".
EDIT: also the link to the twitter.com/clickhole message is broken because Discourse is shitty and broken and I hate it and I hate you for working on it goddamned this is shitty fucking trash.
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Lame that he doesn't tell you the characters.
It's a truly discourse-tier bug - triggered by a malformed URL!
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Nope, doesn't crash Discourse. Discourse is officially better than Skype.
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A YouTube proof of the Coriolis Effect:
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Who is eric snowden?
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Awesome, but you've got the order of the videos reversed.
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Fixed
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burried under More:
nice!
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I would like to see more differently malformed certificates on there, though.
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PR accepted?
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Leave it to the twitterverse to create a narrative with @blakeyrat as the protagonist you want to root for.
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The "bad" advice, BTW, was: "if you're a business, get a merchant account."
Which is "so idiotic" it can only be trolling.
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Yeah, I read the exchange. Ludicrous.
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I especially liked the part where he was dead-wrong about Amazon Payments being closed down last year.
A factoid I found particularly surprising, since I used Amazon Payments only last week.
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The "bad" advice, BTW, was: "if you're a business, get a merchant account."
Which is "so idiotic" it can only be trolling.
I wonder if one of those vaunted Swiss banks offers merchant accounts...
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a narrative with @blakeyrat as the protagonist you want to root for
Damn, you spoiled my fanfic idea.
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Maybe they're all like 14 years old. Hell, this being an imageboard, it's more than likely...
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I think what he's saying is that the bank is going to say "go away, we don't like you"... maybe?
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I think what he's saying is that the bank is going to say "go away, we don't like you"... maybe?
"Oh, you're that imageboard-hosting-thing? Yeah, we've seen it, you suck. Fucking 4chan wannabes. We ain't giving you no bank account, go screw yourself."
Filed under: actually that should be a thing
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That's not what he typed.
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That's not what he typed.
Well, Drax, I got there from what he typed, so why couldn't you?
Filed under: E_REBOOT_SHOULDER_ALIENS
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No; I think he's saying that a bank, when it detects fraud (whether legit or a false alarm) will freeze all your assets and not just the incoming stuff. Which is:
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I'm pretty sure no different than what PayPal does, and
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Ignores the possibility of simply keeping TWO DIFFERENT BANK ACCOUNTS for the business.
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No; I think he's saying that a bank, when it detects fraud (whether legit or a false alarm) will freeze all your assets and not just the incoming stuff. Which is:
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I'm pretty sure no different than what PayPal does, and
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Ignores the possibility of simply keeping TWO DIFFERENT BANK ACCOUNTS for the business.
This isn't fraud he's talking about here -- this is "don't transact with XXX because he's <insert definition of bad person here>" sort of shenanigans. Which probably can bypass point 2 above; i.e. instead of just freezing the account because of such things, they basically freeze all your accounts at that bank.
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they basically freeze all your accounts at that bank.
Do normal people not use different banks for different purposes? I have one bank that issues my credit card, one bank with my personal account, and my husband has an account at the same bank his mom uses so she can send him money easier.
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So use two banks? Or don't do business with drug dealers?
I still don't see why my advice is anything but sensible.
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don't do business with drug dealers?
The Federal Government has decided to try to get rid of legitimate businesses it doesn't like by making Mafia-style threats to banks if they don't cancel the accounts of those businesses.
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Of if they just make deposits and withdrawals of "suspicious" sizes.
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Of if they just make deposits and withdrawals of "suspicious" sizes.
In that case, the Fed just absconds with your money; it doesn't merely coerce the bank to stop handling it.
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Do normal people not use different banks for different purposes? I have one bank that issues my credit card, one bank with my personal account, and my husband has an account at the same bank his mom uses so she can send him money easier.
Some do, some don't -- but "don't do business with so-and-so" orders don't have to limit themselves to one bank, either, which makes you and blakey's point that your merchant bank should be separate from your personal bank (it often is anyway) rather moot.
don't do business with drug dealers?
Unfortunately, it's not just drug dealers that get their accounts frozen:(Classic gov't tactic to throw some scum in with some non-scum in order to paint them all as scum)
The Federal Government has decided to try to get rid of legitimate businesses it doesn't like by making Mafia-style threats to banks if they don't cancel the accounts of those businesses.
Yep. It's an end-run around the inability to just say "screw you, we're shutting you down", which, when played straight up, is a bad idea on the Internet because of the First Amendment concerns it invokes.Of if they just make deposits and withdrawals of "suspicious" sizes.
A good 75% or more of Currency Transaction Reports come from routine business transactions. Just be patient with the forms-filling, and you'll be fine, even if you're dealing with five-figure cash deposits on a regular basis.
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Just be patient with the forms-filling, and you'll be fine, even if you're dealing with five-figure cash deposits on a regular basis.
Why the fuck should anyone have to do that?
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Why the fuck should anyone have to do that?
The forms-filling? Yeah, even FinCEN is complaining about the low signal-to-noise ratio on CTRs, so expect some changes to come down the pike on that one.
The five-figure cash deposits? Not uncommon for legit businesses, from what I can tell -- there are still plenty of places that get plenty of cash transactions.
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The five-figure cash deposits? Not uncommon for legit businesses
Right. The confiscation is bullshit, but that's pretty much true of all civil asset forfeiture laws these days.
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The "good" news is that every time one of these cases goes to trial, the judge says, "you did fucking WHAT? Based on WHAT evidence? You dumb shits!" and gives the money back.
But yes, it's still really shitty (and about the most un-American thing I've ever heard of!) on those Federal law enforcement agencies.
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A good 75% or more of Currency Transaction Reports come from routine business transactions. Just be patient with the forms-filling, and you'll be fine, even if you're dealing with five-figure cash deposits on a regular basis.
The trick here is to make sure you're NOT doing something that looks like structuring, i.e., not making repeated transfers of less than $10,000.
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Why the fuck should anyone have to do that?
Because the government will charge your money with structuring and take it, or maybe even charge you with a crime, as is happening to Denny Hastert right now.
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Not uncommon for legit businesses, from what I can tell -- there are still plenty of places that get plenty of cash transactions.
When I worked, years ago, for a small convenience story, the manager made ~$2000 deposits on a daily basis (that is, one day's cash intake.) It's not hard to imagine a place that can make regular deposits of 4-6 times that amount. Then the cashier tells you "you know, we have to report all transactions over $10,000, and that's a lot of paperwork," and you get the bad idea to deposit under $10, and bang, the Fed decides you're a drug dealer.
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The "good" news is that every time one of these cases goes to trial, the judge says, "you did fucking WHAT? Based on WHAT evidence? You dumb shits!" and gives the money back.
That's true...but it can take a couple of years, and if the Fed seized all the money in your bank account, you may have a tough time paying a lawyer. People do just walk away from the money at that point.
This kind of bullshit, btw, is exactly one of the main things small-government advocates see as the problem with big government.
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Why the fuck should anyone have to do that?
Because the government will charge your money with structuring and take it, or maybe even charge you with a crime, as is happening to Denny Hastert right now.
Ah, yes, "structuring." I couldn't remember the word for that. That's exactly the bullshit that I'm calling bullshit on.
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Ah, yes, "structuring." I couldn't remember the word for that
I only remembered myself because there was a story about it last week involving Denny Hastert.
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That's true...but it can take a couple of years, and if the Fed seized all the money in your bank account, you may have a tough time paying a lawyer. People do just walk away from the money at that point.
Yep, and there's no legal recourse other than finding someone to represent you pro bono at that point -- because the Feds don't care if that was your emergency lawyer funding stash or not.
Ah, yes, "structuring." I couldn't remember the word for that. That's exactly the bullshit that I'm calling bullshit on.
It's rather aggravating, really. Depositing more than $10k on a regular basis triggers 30mins of forms filling every time, or at best you're asked to jump through complicated exemption hoops (either annually or biennially). Trying to go around that flags you as trying to bypass the anti-money-laundering system and puts you at risk for getting dinged for structuring. However, there are banks out there that will say "here's your money, account closed, take your banking somewhere else, kthxbai" if you make them fill out too many CTRs...
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Trying to go around that flags you as trying to bypass the anti-money-laundering system and puts you at risk for getting dinged for structuring.
Just going about your business can get you flagged, too. Bullshit all the way down.