If you follow lots×10¹⁰⁰ of <strike>rules</strike> Trains!
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As @dkf said, Portland's the first sensible stop in Oregon on a Seattle-Portland line, but you could stop in St Helens if you, I dunno, built something there that'd be worth going to.
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a better suggestion than @HardwareGeek's
It was intentionally bad. It was intended to be humorously bad, but....
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Ya think? Where else could you stop in Oregon north of Portland?
I know, I've been there a few times. [spoiler]It's drier and sunnier than Manchester, but so is nearly everywhere else too.[/spoiler]
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The one where you have a sweaty mouth breather on your left, who is borrowing about a quarter of your seat to fit in his over sized tail; and this when your seat is already designed for a garden gnome; and the person on your right is sweaty and feverish, sneezing and hacking from some disease he caught in Eastern Ebola; and using your laptop is hard on that tray that's half the size of the lap top; and your knees are jammed into your chin by the guy in front who leaned back with the force of the leaning tower of Pisa; and the kids behind you are crying, except for the one that's kicking your seat back; and the temperature is just right for Joe average, if Joe average is either an Eskimo or a Bedouin; and you can get a swallow of drink for your parched throat that is one of seven choices none of which you like, served by someone who is waving their hand to hurry you up if you take more than three seconds to decide; and you can walk all right...sideways along that ten-inch aisle...unless you meet someone walking the other way; and the travel schedule meets the requirements of anyone who needs 2½ extra hours of physical and mental torture--and lost sleep--every day.
Ah, someone else who's travelled with Virgin Crosscountry! :(
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I'd not want to be cramped round a laptop trying to work for hours on an Intercity train here in the UK. There just isn't enough space.
I've written quite a bit of code on them (the “benefits” of going to rather a lot of meetings) so you're wrong there. However, it's a lot easier if you have a seat at a table or if you upgrade your ticket to First Class; indeed, the extra space is the main benefit of the more expensive ticket. It also helps if you don't get the largest laptop. A 15" screen is the absolute limit that you can use in the usual airline-style seat, and there's not usually room for a separate mouse so learn to use the touchpad properly.
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In middle and western Europe you can get a conference car on intercity trains if you order in advance.
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Ah, someone else who's travelled with Virgin Crosscountry! :(
Delta. But it's the same thing.
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so you're wrong there
Fine - I'll rephrase - no space on the Intercity trains I get. The table isn't a full-sized one even in the trains that do have them.
Yes - I could get First Class, but I only ever get the train to London and I'd rather just lose the hour to looking out of the window.
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I only ever get the train to London and I'd rather just lose the hour to looking out of the window.
When I'm getting the train to London, the train goes across the Fens for part of the way. There's nothing worth seeing there. (Not that much through the East Midlands either.) Might as well work.
The ECML is a dull route from a bit north of Stevenage to somewhere north of Darlington.
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the train goes across the Fens for part of the way. There's nothing worth seeing there.
It only really goes through the Fens between Peterborough and Huntingdon, so I assume you just mean the flattish countryside of Lincolnshire and Cambridgeshire.
There's plenty to see if you like the general scenery of the countryside. Which I do seeing as I live:a bit north of Stevenage
Like I said, it's an hour - losing it is fine. It might be different if I was on it for longer but I'm not.
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It only really goes through the Fens between Peterborough and Huntingdon, so I assume you just mean the flattish countryside of Lincolnshire and Cambridgeshire.
I do mean that. I also mean the countryside north of there going up to somewhere in County Durham. It's really very boring indeed along the route of the rail line unless you like looking at large farms. (The A1 is rather more interesting, at least from Huntingdon northwards.)
And yes, I do know the fens. I don't want to go back there.
Like I said, it's an hour - losing it is fine.
It's a bit like when I'm going to and from work. I don't mind staring out of the window for a while. (It helps that the route between Huddersfield and Stalybridge is actually picturesque as the train is mostly running quite high up the sides of glacier-cut valleys.) But that's also good time for coding. Or solving crosswords. :D
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Actually, Hayden Island would be a better choice...it has civilization on it, up to and including it's own Interstate exit
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Yes, but that wouldn't be funny. Also, I suspect it may be within the Portland city limit, in which case it wouldn't be "north of Portland".
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Yes, but that wouldn't be funny. Also, I suspect it may be within the Portland city limit, in which case it wouldn't be "north of Portland".
Indeed:
Much of Hayden Island (and connected Tomahawk Island to the east) is within Portland city limits, and recognized as one of its 95 neighborhoods.[1]
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What's the deal with TV shows being set in Portland? I presume it's a consequence of the unions, etc, driving production out of California into British Columbia. And pretending that Vancouver is Santa Barbara jumped the shark, but no one knows what Portland looks like but assumes it's rainy and filled with pine trees so you can't tell the difference anyways.
I like Grimm, but they're really getting ridiculous with the monster of the week.
