Damn forced upgrade to Win7!



  • @anotherusername said:

    Gosh, it's so easy to find now. The first time I read it, by the time I got to that part I'd already forgotten that I was trying to figure out whether it was a desktop or a laptop and I completely glossed over the word "laptop".
     

    If only the OP had had other indicators that it was referring to a laptop, like mentioning a common laptop scren size (i.e. 15.6"), or having a secondary low power mode graphics chip, or that it had wifi...



  • @LoremIpsumDolorSitAmet said:

    Hmm... I was just thinking, health and safety requirements mandate that we fill in a workstation assessment form when we start and whenever we move desks, and it covers all the things you'd expect, like chair height and tilt, screen height and angle, brightness, ambient light, and general 'can you see the screen' types of questions. They could, and should, actually add a basic monitor test screen to the process with something like that TDWTF sample image above.

     


    WTF kinda workplace makes you fill out paperwork just to move desks? I mean, can't you just adjust all that shit on your own? Wouldn't you do it anyway?

     



  • @Ben L. said:

    SCREEN TEST:

    What color is "The Daily WTF" in this image?

    Some kind of blue.  For the record: third different E6540, and it has the vertical effect I described.  For the record, I did get a magnifying glass. Turns out I was wrong about lack of vertical pixel separation - and every pixel column is indeed illuminated.  I'm suspecting it has to do with color profile so I'll play with that...

    Also, more information on the crash from sleep: turns out the (BIOS) hard-drive password on the particular SSDs used is the culprit.  Disabling that feature results in no more crash-on-wake.  Apparently I was the guinea pig for turning that back on among all those receiving an SSD in the office.



  • @Snooder said:

    WTF kinda workplace makes you fill out paperwork just to move desks? I mean, can't you just adjust all that shit on your own? Wouldn't you do it anyway?
    That particular WTF is called Health and Safety Law in the workplace. (Welcome to United\wGreat\wEngland.) All companies must stick to it, or else the company is liable if an employee gets injured.  I understand that such laws in the US are very lax or non-existent by comparison so it probably sounds like a lot of hassle. But really, if you spend half your waking hours sitting at a desk, you'd better be doing it right, or your body will suffer.



  • @LoremIpsumDolorSitAmet said:

    @Snooder said:

    WTF kinda workplace makes you fill out paperwork just to move desks? I mean, can't you just adjust all that shit on your own? Wouldn't you do it anyway?
    That particular WTF is called Health and Safety Law in the workplace. (Welcome to United\wGreat\wEngland.) All companies must stick to it, or else the company is liable if an employee gets injured.  I understand that such laws in the US are very lax or non-existent by comparison so it probably sounds like a lot of hassle. But really, if you spend half your waking hours sitting at a desk, you'd better be doing it right, or your body will suffer.

     

    Nothing in what I just read makes it mandatory to have to fill out the assessment you describe though. It's entirely possible that there is such a mandate, I'm just saying it's really, really stupid. It's one thing for the workplace to hand out tips on the best ways to adjust your workplace environment, but to make it mandatory that you fill out a form describing the already existing settings serves zero purpose. Unless the intent is to have said form reviewed by HR and then have some helpdesk intern be responsible for readjusting your chair based on differences noted in the current settings and what your personnel file says your ideal settings should be. Which is a whole layer of WTF on its own.

     



  • @Snooder said:

    Nothing in what I just read makes it mandatory to have to fill out the assessment you describe though. It's entirely possible that there is such a mandate, I'm just saying it's really, really stupid. It's one thing for the workplace to hand out tips on the best ways to adjust your workplace environment, but to make it mandatory that you fill out a form describing the already existing settings serves zero purpose. Unless the intent is to have said form reviewed by HR and then have some helpdesk intern be responsible for readjusting your chair based on differences noted in the current settings and what your personnel file says your ideal settings should be. Which is a whole layer of WTF on its own.
    Glad to see you treat it in much the same way as most employees over here do. ;)

    Zero purpose? Well, I'm guessing the actual figure is probably 1/1,000,000 of a purpose, because that's how much people will be suing if they injure themselves at work and successfully claim that standard procedure was not carried out to ensure their comfort and safety. Such fun.

     



  • @too_many_usernames said:

    For the record: third different E6540, and it has the vertical effect I described.  For the record, I did get a magnifying glass.
    I'm dead curious now. Care to post a photo that shows the effect you're talking about?



  • @LoremIpsumDolorSitAmet said:

    Glad to see you treat it in much the same way as most employees over here do. ;)

    Zero purpose? Well, I'm guessing the actual figure is probably 1/1,000,000 of a purpose, because that's how much people will be suing if they injure themselves at work and successfully claim that standard procedure was not carried out to ensure their comfort and safety. Such fun.

    Yeah, but you can have a "standard procedure" that's not dumb. As I said, you could easily have a section of the employee handbook devoted to ergonomics. Or a "new employee ergonomics training session" That would fill both the letter and the spirit of the law, while being less onerous all around and giving a better impression of the company to the employees. This just strikes me as blind panic and incompetence. Or, more likely, some company somewhere successfully defended a suit by having a similar program that made sense for their unique circumstances, then a bunch of lawyers read about in a law review article, and now everyone blindly follows the same program even though it's meaningless and counterproductive.

     



  • @flabdablet said:

    I'm dead curious now. Care to post a photo that shows the effect you're talking about?
     

    My wife is going to be very curious why I'll be taking photos of my laptop with our DSLR when I go home tonight...



  • @Snooder said:

    @LoremIpsumDolorSitAmet said:

    Hmm... I was just thinking, health and safety requirements mandate that we fill in a workstation assessment form when we start and whenever we move desks, and it covers all the things you'd expect, like chair height and tilt, screen height and angle, brightness, ambient light, and general 'can you see the screen' types of questions. They could, and should, actually add a basic monitor test screen to the process with something like that TDWTF sample image above.

    WTF kinda workplace makes you fill out paperwork just to move desks? I mean, can't you just adjust all that shit on your own? Wouldn't you do it anyway?

    A place I used to work had something like this, but IIRC you only did it once. Some guy trained in ergonomics came around and made sure your work space was set up correctly, and recorded the work surface height*, whether you needed a keyboard tray, which of several choices of ergonomic desk chairs you wanted, etc. Then, if you moved, your new space was automatically set up correctly when you arrived, based on the info in the system.

    The company claimed that, between moving your stuff, getting the work space set up, getting your phone extension connected to the right desk, etc., it cost the company $500 for an employee to move desks, so yes, paperwork.

    * Assuming you work in a fabric box with the surface attached to the walls. If you work on a real desk, well, la di dah.



  • @too_many_usernames said:

    @flabdablet said:

    I'm dead curious now. Care to post a photo that shows the effect you're talking about?
     

    My wife is going to be very curious why I'll be taking photos of my laptop with our DSLR when I go home tonight...

    Show her the problem and tell her you're taking the pictures to show someone else. Easy. Next question.



  • She'll probably say, "well of course you take photos of it if you want to describe it to other people! Duh!"



  • @blakeyrat said:

    She'll probably say, "well of course you take photos of it if you want to describe it to other people! Duh!"
    I really don't care how unimaginative the dialogue is, as long as it ends with them having sex.



  • @anotherusername said:

    Show her the problem and tell her you're taking the pictures to show someone else. Easy. Next question.
     

    Geez you people sometimes take things too literally...

     



  • So, you apparently can't sign up for a throw-away email account any more unless you give people your phone number (WTF?)... and I haven't found a site that allows hosting images without a sign in, and I'm tired of keeping track of a million logins. And I'm not giving photobucket or any of those other sites my Facebook login to "access my friends list".

    So I have a photo that does show the issue... but I don't know how to get it to you all. Perhaps I should print it and send it to Alex?



  • Jesus, and you have a job that trusts you to not drool all over a laptop? You're like a helpless infant.

    #pointlessinsults



  • @too_many_usernames said:

    and I haven't found a site that allows hosting images without a sign in
     

    Imgur, unless they've drastically changed things since the last time I checked

     


  • Trolleybus Mechanic

    @Mason Wheeler said:

    @too_many_usernames said:

    and I haven't found a site that allows hosting images without a sign in
     

    Imgur, unless they've drastically changed things since the last time I checked

     

    Imgur for sur.  FFS, install PicPick, do your screenshots with it. File -> Share -> To Web.  ImgUr is pre-selected.  Done.

     



  • He just upgraded from XP. He's clearly just a bit out of touch with modern technologies.

    @too_many_usernames: nowadays everyone uses imgur.com to upload images, major account providers (Google, Microsoft, Yahoo, Facebook?) require phone numbers to sign up (but you can still use any of the thousands of secondary email providers), and people use ":D" and ":c" instead of ":)" and ":(". Also Microsoft owns Nokia, Michael Jackson is dead, and the US has a black president.



  • @Lorne Kates said:

    @Mason Wheeler said:

    @too_many_usernames said:

    and I haven't found a site that allows hosting images without a sign in
     

    Imgur, unless they've drastically changed things since the last time I checked

     

    Imgur for sur.  FFS, install PicPick, do your screenshots with it. File -> Share -> To Web.  ImgUr is pre-selected.  Done.

     


    Personally I use the PRTSCN key and then I ^V the image into imgur.com.


  • Trolleybus Mechanic

    @Ben L. said:

    Personally I use the PRTSCN key and then I ^V the image into imgur.com.
     

    We know.

     



  • @too_many_usernames said:

    So, you apparently can't sign up for a throw-away email account any more unless you give people your phone number (WTF?)... and I haven't found a site that allows hosting images without a sign in, and I'm tired of keeping track of a million logins. And I'm not giving photobucket or any of those other sites my Facebook login to "access my friends list".

    So I have a photo that does show the issue... but I don't know how to get it to you all. Perhaps I should print it and send it to Alex?

    When all else fails you can always convert it to a data URL and use TinyUrl to shorten it. (actually there's a size limit but you could always break it into horizontal stripes... ok I'll stop now)


  • @anotherusername said:

    @too_many_usernames said:

    So, you apparently can't sign up for a throw-away email account any more unless you give people your phone number (WTF?)... and I haven't found a site that allows hosting images without a sign in, and I'm tired of keeping track of a million logins. And I'm not giving photobucket or any of those other sites my Facebook login to "access my friends list".

    So I have a photo that does show the issue... but I don't know how to get it to you all. Perhaps I should print it and send it to Alex?

    When all else fails you can always convert it to a data URL and use TinyUrl to shorten it. (actually there's a size limit but you could always break it into horizontal stripes... ok I'll stop now)
    stop

    don't

    come back

  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Lorne Kates said:

    @Ben L. said:
    Personally I use the PRTSCN key and then I ^V the image into imgur.com.
    We know.
    If only there was a keyboard modifier for PrtScn that would be useful for a window that wasn't maximized that could be used for this particular workflow without changing any other part of it...



  • @too_many_usernames said:

    @flabdablet said:

    I'm dead curious now. Care to post a photo that shows the effect you're talking about?
     

    My wife is going to be very curious why I'll be taking photos of my laptop with our DSLR when I go home tonight...

     

    Say it's FOR SCIENCE

     



  • @Ben L. said:

    and then I ^V the image
     

    :^V



  • @dhromed said:

    @too_many_usernames said:

    @flabdablet said:

    I'm dead curious now. Care to post a photo that shows the effect you're talking about?
     

    My wife is going to be very curious why I'll be taking photos of my laptop with our DSLR when I go home tonight...

     

    Say it's FOR SCIENCE

     


    Say "I'm doing science so hard right now, Meredith!"

    I presume your wife is named Meredith.



  • @LoremIpsumDolorSitAmet said:

    Or is this something I won't be able to distinguish either when I reach 50?
     

     This.

     



  • Good Lord folks, you don't think I tried imgur or other sites before posting that they all require sign-ins? And I didn't know about PickPic or whatever... I suppose I can look that one up.  But I guess unlike most of you, I don't have copious amounts of time to search the 'net to sort through a half-dozen marginally useful forum posts in a search engine result list about "free image hosting" and trying to wade through all the porn links when all I want to do is share a 280kB PNG.

    Now that I'm at work, though, I can't get to most of the image hosting sites because they are "in violation of our web viewing policy."



  • @aihtdikh said:

    Say "I'm doing science so hard right now, Meredith!"
     

    I don't understand that reference.

     

    :'(



  • @too_many_usernames said:

    My wife is going to be very curious why I'll be taking photos of my laptop with our DSLR when I go home tonight...

     

    Since you're a regular poster here, the assumption is your wife is imaginary. Problem solved.

     


  • ♿ (Parody)

    @too_many_usernames said:

    Good Lord folks, you don't think I tried imgur or other sites before posting that they all require sign-ins?

    I assumed not, since I've posted a bunch of stuff to imgur but never created any sort of account there.



  • @oheso said:

    Since you're a regular poster here, the assumption is your wife is imaginary. Problem solved.

    Canadian wife?


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @too_many_usernames said:

    Good Lord folks, you don't think I tried imgur or other sites before posting that they all require sign-ins?
    No. We don't.



    I know you didn't try imgur, since it doesn't require a login at all to upload a pic.



  • @boomzilla said:

    @too_many_usernames said:
    Good Lord folks, you don't think I tried imgur or other sites before posting that they all require sign-ins?

    I assumed not, since I've posted a bunch of stuff to imgur but never created any sort of account there.

     

    Indeed.

    @too_many_usernames said:

    Good Lord folks, you don't think I tried imgur?

    It's probably just brianfart or tiredness, but the uploading thing is in the top left box, where it says "computer", or in the top bar on the left: the arrow-and-cloud icon.



  • @dhromed said:

    It's probably just brianfart or tiredness, but the uploading thing is in the top left box, where it says "computer", or in the top bar on the left: the arrow-and-cloud icon.

    I guess I got confused by the giant "SIGN IN" box in the upper right of the imgur site... since there was no obvious other icon or link that said "upload image."  I guess I'm a rare breed that does much better with text like "upload" instead of pictograms.  But maybe I did just miss it - a 7 month old daughter tends to be a (pleasant) distraction.



  • @too_many_usernames said:

    since there was no obvious other icon or link that said "upload image."
    Really?
    imgur
    That <font size="5">Upload images</font> is not big enough for you?



  • Guys, guys, guys, he's obviously an ancient elderly great-grandpa who lives in a home and is confus- wait, your kid is less than a year old? Why the fuck are you pulling this old geezer shtick then?



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  • @ender said:

    @too_many_usernames said:
    since there was no obvious other icon or link that said "upload image."
    Really?
    imgur
    That <font size="5">Upload images</font> is not big enough for you?

    .i.ui I find it funny that the "Readability" button has light text with a light shadow, making it unreadable.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Guys, guys, guys, he's obviously an ancient elderly great-grandpa who lives in a home and is confus- wait, your kid is less than a year old? Why the fuck are you pulling this old geezer shtick then?


    My 61 year old dad has a two year old kid. Just saying.



  • @Snooder said:

    My 61 year old dad has a two year old kid.
    @Snooder said:
    Filed under: fertile octogenarian.
    I'm pretty sure someone's going to nitpick about you writing "fertile octogenarian" instead of "fertile fiftagenerian" in your tags.



  • @Ben L. said:

    I find it funny that the "Readability" button has light text with a light shadow, making it unreadable.
    That's a bookmarklet, and the weird text rendering is there because Opera lost most of it's support for adhering to the Windows UI colours around version 11. It's still way better than Firefox:
    Firefox high contrast imgur homepage


  • ♿ (Parody)

    @Zecc said:

    @Snooder said:

    My 61 year old dad has a two year old kid.
    @Snooder said:
    Filed under: fertile octogenarian.
    I'm pretty sure someone's going to nitpick about you writing "fertile octogenarian" instead of "fertile fiftagenerian" in your tags.

    It should be obvious that he's talking about the mom there.



  • @ender said:

    @Ben L. said:
    I find it funny that the "Readability" button has light text with a light shadow, making it unreadable.
    That's a bookmarklet, and the weird text rendering is there because Opera lost most of it's support for adhering to the Windows UI colours around version 11. It's still way better than Firefox:
    Firefox high contrast imgur homepage

    What's with the pixelated program icons?



  • @Ben L. said:

    What's with the pixelated program icons?
    I'm using 120DPI mode, and it appears that no program includes an appropriately-sized icon (20x20 pixels AFAIK).



  • @ender said:

    @Ben L. said:
    I find it funny that the "Readability" button has light text with a light shadow, making it unreadable.
    That's a bookmarklet, and the weird text rendering is there because Opera lost most of it's support for adhering to the Windows UI colours around version 11. It's still way better than Firefox:
    Firefox high contrast imgur homepage

    So on the one hand you're bitching because Opera doesn't follow the system colours but on the other you're bitching because Firefox does.

    By the way, those links are actually empty <a> tags that have a CSS style to give it a background-image attribute. The client has to decide to either allow the page to specify background-images or to use the system default background colour instead, and either one of those is going to be "wrong" in some situations.



  • @too_many_usernames said:

    4. Some of my customer-specific apps don't work on Win7 64 bit. Third party, not mine, I know, I know. (Best part? The app was written in .Net...)

    I may have missed it, but typically it is some native API/DLL code (non CLR) that causes a 32 bit program to not work on 64 bit.  In most cases this can be done by forcing it to run it 32 bit mode.

    Two things to try:

    • Create a .Mantefest file for the .exe file that forces it to use the 32 bit version of the runtime.
    • Right-click the executable and try setting the compatiblity properties to "Windows XP".  It is probably less that 50% chance this works, but I have had it help in some cases.


  • @anotherusername said:

    So on the one hand you're bitching because Opera doesn't follow the system colours but on the other you're bitching because Firefox does.
    The only thing that annoys me about Opera is that it uses light-coloured backgrounds on tabs and addressbar (but at least the text is readable there). I can easily override the webpage colours with the system ones - just need 2 clicks to enable/disable the CSS file.


    Firefox on the other hand has the same light-colour background problem on tabs, but it also applies blur on menu titles, and has problems actually drawing the menus when they're opened (the problems aren't that large when the menubar is shown - if it isn't, and the Firefox button is used instead, it renders the menus as white on white). Additionally, it applies a broken style on webpages that can't be disabled.
    @anotherusername said:
    By the way, those links are actually empty <a> tags that have a CSS style to give it a background-image attribute.
    I'm aware of that, and while there's not much that can be done, Opera's CSS at least draws a border around such links, so you know they're there. However, the larger problem is that Firefox renders normal text-only <a> tags in blue, which makes the links nearly invisible (look at the "sign in" and "register" links on the screenshot). Hyperlink colour in the system colour scheme is greyish cyan, but Firefox ignores that.



  • @ender said:

    @anotherusername said:
    So on the one hand you're bitching because Opera doesn't follow the system colours but on the other you're bitching because Firefox does.
    The only thing that annoys me about Opera is that it uses light-coloured backgrounds on tabs and addressbar (but at least the text is readable there). I can easily override the webpage colours with the system ones - just need 2 clicks to enable/disable the CSS file.


    Firefox on the other hand has the same light-colour background problem on tabs, but it also applies blur on menu titles, and has problems actually drawing the menus when they're opened (the problems aren't that large when the menubar is shown - if it isn't, and the Firefox button is used instead, it renders the menus as white on white). Additionally, it applies a broken style on webpages that can't be disabled.
    @anotherusername said:
    By the way, those links are actually empty <a> tags that have a CSS style to give it a background-image attribute.
    I'm aware of that, and while there's not much that can be done, Opera's CSS at least draws a border around such links, so you know they're there. However, the larger problem is that Firefox renders normal text-only <a> tags in blue, which makes the links nearly invisible (look at the "sign in" and "register" links on the screenshot). Hyperlink colour in the system colour scheme is greyish cyan, but Firefox ignores that.

    There isn't a cross-platform "hyperlink colour" (Windows doesn't have one) so, short of Firefox divining your system's "hyperlink colour", you could always just change the hyperlink colours in the colours area of the Firefox preferences:


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