Neckbeards Exposed!
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@Cassidy said:
@spamcourt said:
The rape and death threats probably came from "Anonymous".
From what I read, the rape/death threats came from commenting armchair warriors. Anonymous are supposedly behind the DoS attacks.
Of course, if anonymous were behind the threats, we'd be none the wiser.
I thought Anonymous was one of those poet things
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@Cassidy said:
@ObiWayneKenobi said:
I'm not in any way condoning death/rape threats against her, but I don't have sympathy for her receiving it either.
Join the club.
@ObiWayneKenobi said:
In fact, I'd go as far to say that she brought it on herself for causing the shitstorm she did.
Meh... I don't think she invited death/rape threats, but she certainly courted publicity to raise awareness of the situation and for every vociferous supporter there's bound to be a rabid protester. She's gotta expect backlash for what she did (uploading a snapped photo it and tagging it with a judgemental opinion).
It's being referred to "donglegate" over here. And quite a number of Limeys are just shaking their head with "only in America" mutterings.
People in Europe do seem to be better at treating each other like real human beings, instead of stereotypes or examples. I stay in the USA because I think being an expatriate is sort of pathetic... but I see that a lot of the crap that goes on here is pretty pathetic in its own right
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@bridget99 said:
People in Europe do seem to be better at treating each other like real human beings, instead of stereotypes or examples.
Like not calling someone a neckbeard because they made a comment you don't like?
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@Sutherlands said:
@bridget99 said:
People in Europe do seem to be better at treating each other like real human beings, instead of stereotypes or examples.
Like not calling someone a neckbeard because they made a comment you don't like?Name calling is an eminently human thing to do to other humans. Of course, if you're using the civilized people of, say, Montana instead of the savages of New York City for your comparison, then I'm sure Europe fairs much more poorly on how nicely people treat each other.
But then, complaining about how stereotypical people stereotype each other makes for a delightful troll.
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@Sutherlands said:
@bridget99 said:
People in Europe do seem to be better at treating each other like real human beings, instead of stereotypes or examples.
Like not calling someone a neckbeard because they made a comment you don't like?Well, yeah... although, as Obi hypothesized, I don't think we would have gotten to this point at all had Adria been an English woman.
For all their football bravado, I think the English are pretty OK. I mean, they argue over "badger culling." Over here in Hell, even a granola-smacking hippy would run his VW bus right over a badger, given the opportunity.
I'm American to the core and neither deny it nor wear it as a badge of honor. I admire Europeans, but I also seem to scare the shit out of them.
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@Cassidy said:
@Severity One said:
Um... would you claim that the majority of decision makers (politicians, CEOs etc.) by and large are female, non-white and/or LBGT? Because then you would need to have your head examined.I'm male, western European, tall, fair, and heterosexual, so probably the most privileged kind of person on the planet after for royalty
Also the most under-represented. Many equal opportunities groups have representatives to "fight for their rights".The reason why western white heterosexual men don't have any of those "representatives" is because they don't need any.
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@boomzilla said:
@Sutherlands said:
It's always fascinating how outsiders consider "Europe" to be this homogenous place, just like everybody in the USA wears a Stetson hat, has a whole arsenal of firearms, drives a gas-guzzling SUV on the way to the faceless mall, and votes Republican.@bridget99 said:
People in Europe do seem to be better at treating each other like real human beings, instead of stereotypes or examples.
Like not calling someone a neckbeard because they made a comment you don't like?Name calling is an eminently human thing to do to other humans. Of course, if you're using the civilized people of, say, Montana instead of the savages of New York City for your comparison, then I'm sure Europe fairs much more poorly on how nicely people treat each other.
Inn Europe, there are countries that have lifted political correctness to a level of artful absurdity (United Kingdom), or that are so kind and friendly that it becomes suspicious (Germany). Sexism is pretty much everywhere, but more so in some countries (particularly those in the south) than in others. Sweden, for example, is a country that is very big on equal opportunities.
One thing I'm pretty sure of, though, is that in Europe, nobody would have been sacked over this silly affair.
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@Severity One said:
It's always fascinating how outsiders consider "Europe" to be this homogenous place
QFT.
Stop talking about "Europe". Start talking about its countries. France, Germany, Netherlands, England, Spain, etc. Europe is just a place on a map.
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@ObiWayneKenobi said:
Yeah, I am, because this bitch took it upon herself to get a man fired because she didn't like a private conversation he was having with a co-worker and she went on a rampage. Behavior like that SHOULD be punished. To reiterate she wasn't complaining about a sexual joke directed to her, or sexism against women at a conference, she was complaining because some stranger was having a private talk with someone else, not involving her at all, and she happened to overhear "dongle" and "fork" in what may or may not be a sexual connotation (but not in any way shape or form directed to her), and proceeded to stir up a shitstorm.
Firstly, Richards didn't "took it upon herself to get a man fired". She complained about a joke she thought was sexist. It wasn't a "private conversation" if they were talking, in a public place, loudly enough to be overheard. And at least one of the guys involved has admitted that the dongle comment was a dick joke.
But wow...
@ObiWayneKenobi said:
It would be like if you were Jewish and overheard somebody talking to a friend and saying "Bob, you're such a Jew with money!" and then proceeding to go on a rant how those people are Anti-Semites and trying to get them fired. Would THAT be acceptable behavior? I think not.
That's where you went?
Do you not see the problem with what you've written in that section? You create a hypothetical scenario in which someone makes an antisemitic comment (you know, the idea that Jewish people are frugal with money isn't exactly complimentary)... but the Jewish person is in the wrong for being offended? Also, do you think that Jewish people are the only folk to be offended by antisemitism?
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@markfiend said:
@ObiWayneKenobi said:
Yeah, I am, because this bitch took it upon
herself to get a man fired because she didn't like a private
conversation he was having with a co-worker and she went on a rampage.
Behavior like that SHOULD be punished. To reiterate she wasn't
complaining about a sexual joke directed to her, or sexism against women
at a conference, she was complaining because some stranger was having a
private talk with someone else, not involving her at all, and she
happened to overhear "dongle" and "fork" in what may or may not be a
sexual connotation (but not in any way shape or form directed to her),
and proceeded to stir up a shitstorm.Firstly, Richards didn't "took it upon herself to get a man fired". She complained about a joke she thought was sexist. It wasn't a "private conversation" if they were talking, in a public place, loudly enough to be overheard. And at least one of the guys involved has admitted that the dongle comment was a dick joke.
But wow...
@ObiWayneKenobi said:
It would be like if you were Jewish and overheard somebody talking to a friend and saying "Bob, you're such a Jew with money!" and then proceeding to go on a rant how those people are Anti-Semites and trying to get them fired. Would THAT be acceptable behavior? I think not.
That's where you went?
Do you not see the problem with what you've written in that section? You create a hypothetical scenario in which someone makes an antisemitic comment (you know, the idea that Jewish people are frugal with money isn't exactly complimentary)... but the Jewish person is in the wrong for being offended? Also, do you think that Jewish people are the only folk to be offended by antisemitism?
you are both pretty wrong right now, just so you know.
mark you dont seem to understand that richards handled this hugely inappropriately, and should have followed the procedures laid out by the event organisers for handling situations like this, or confronted the pair directly. Squandering an opportunity for education of those involved, those around her and the conference in general, she caused no social change with this behaviour, only anger on all sides (as has been said, everyone lost).
wayne - terrible analogy.
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@Severity One said:
One thing I'm pretty sure of, though, is that in Europe, nobody would have been sacked over this silly affair.
I'm not sure of that at all.
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@markfiend said:
She complained about a joke she thought was sexist.
No. She really didn't do that.
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@Algorythmics said:
mark you dont seem to understand that richards handled this hugely inappropriately, and should have followed the procedures laid out by the event organisers for handling situations like this, or confronted the pair directly. Squandering an opportunity for education of those involved, those around her and the conference in general, she caused no social change with this behaviour, only anger on all sides (as has been said, everyone lost).
Direct confrontation between one woman and two men? I'm willing to bet big bucks she'd have been told "shut up and sit down bitch"... exactly in the same way as ObiWayneKenobi basically told her by proxy just there. As for following procedures, would you remember, off the top of your head, in the heat of the moment, the grievance procedure at a proffessional conference? Tweeting to the organisers "I have a problem with these guys" is a best-guess.
Maybe she made a bad call. Maybe. But even if I were to accept that she "handled this hugely inappropriately" would that make DDoSing her company website and her personal website, sending her death threats and rape threats OK? Does that make her spineless company firing her OK? Does that make the torrent of abuse she's had (and is still getting) all over the Internet OK?
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@Severity One said:
Um... would you claim that the majority of decision makers (politicians, CEOs etc.) by and large are female, non-white and/or LBGT?
Nope. I didn't claim that, and I wouldn't, either.
@Severity One said:
Because then you would need to have your head examined.
I certainly did examine my text to see if I'd claimed that... and I didn't.
@Severity One said:
The reason why western white heterosexual men don't have any of those "representatives" is because they don't need any.
I'm sure South Africa agrees with you.
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@markfiend said:
@Algorythmics said:
mark you dont seem to understand that richards handled this hugely inappropriately, and should have followed the procedures laid out by the event organisers for handling situations like this, or confronted the pair directly. Squandering an opportunity for education of those involved, those around her and the conference in general, she caused no social change with this behaviour, only anger on all sides (as has been said, everyone lost).
Direct confrontation between one woman and two men? I'm willing to bet big bucks she'd have been told "shut up and sit down bitch"... exactly in the same way as ObiWayneKenobi basically told her by proxy just there. As for following procedures, would you remember, off the top of your head, in the heat of the moment, the grievance procedure at a proffessional conference? Tweeting to the organisers "I have a problem with these guys" is a best-guess.
Maybe she made a bad call. Maybe. But even if I were to accept that she "handled this hugely inappropriately" would that make DDoSing her company website and her personal website, sending her death threats and rape threats OK? Does that make her spineless company firing her OK? Does that make the torrent of abuse she's had (and is still getting) all over the Internet OK?
Pretty sure I didn't say any of that was ok, pretty sure i told wayne he was wrong too. Pretty sure the reaction of the internet to someone's behaviour is entirely independent of whether or not that behaviour is acceptable. Pretty sure I said already that it was unacceptable that she has been treated that way.
do you REALLY think people at conferences like this behave like that? have you ever heard anyone in a professional environment, or a conference like this actually say "shut up and sit down bitch" to someone face to face? Do you really think that intelligent people actually behave like that? Professionally employed computer experts generally have an ounce of sense, and recognise that talking to people like that is FUCKING STUPID.
Would I remember in the heat of the moment the grievance procedure? maybe not, would I remember that there are representatives throughout the room who's job it is to remember that procedure? would most people? Almost definitely. She didnt tweet the organisers, she tweeted everyone following #pycon. That is not trying to resolve the situation appropriately, that is trying to resolve the situation publicly. as has been mentioned before, she has done that before.
There is no maybe here, she made a bad call. I bet similar situations have happened before, and I bet there wasn't any kind of shit storm if it was reported sensibly.
Having said all that. SHE STILL DIDN'T DESERVE WHAT SHE GOT. She (inadvertently) caused it, she could have avoided it, but she didn't deserve it.
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@markfiend said:
Maybe she made a bad call. Maybe.
There's no "maybe" about it. She's a shit-stirring, hypocritical, misandrist out to get attention by being a professional offendee; only this time she didn't get the attention she was expecting.
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@bridget99 said:
People in Europe do seem to be better at treating each other like real human beings, instead of stereotypes or examples.
Except for the goddamn gypsies. We really need to fucking ethnically cleanse those dirty drains on society.
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@markfiend said:
Direct confrontation between one woman and two men? I'm willing to bet big bucks she'd have been told "shut up and sit down bitch"... exactly in the same way as ObiWayneKenobi basically told her by proxy just there.
LOL. You're so full of shit. Of course, it depends on how she approached it. If she used her awesome twitter persona, then you're probably right, and it would be a fairly deserved response. If she'd said something like, "Hey guys, it's hard to pay attention over your conversation, can you keep it down?" OK, that doesn't directly address her new-found sensitivity, but could easily take care of the problem.
@markfiend said:As for following procedures, would you remember, off the top of your head, in the heat of the moment, the grievance procedure at a proffessional conference?
Find someone with a badge or whatever and talk to them? Twitter (unless directed to someone specific) would be very low on my list of ways to deal with this.
@markfiend said:
But even if I were to accept that she "handled this hugely inappropriately" would that make DDoSing her company website and her personal website, sending her death threats and rape threats OK? Does that make her spineless company firing her OK? Does that make the torrent of abuse she's had (and is still getting) all over the Internet OK?
Yeah, whenever you make your company look bad, you're risking your job. Of course, she really only lost her job because the other dude lost his first. For pretty much the same reasons. It turns out that actions (especially in public!) have consequences.
Your strawmen about DDoSes and threats aren't really worth addressing more than to acknowledge the fact that you're insinuating things about this thread that aren't accurate.
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@markfiend said:
It wasn't a "private conversation" if they were talking, in a public place, loudly enough to be overheard.
Talking in a public place loudly enough to be overheard doesn't make a conversation non-private, it just makes it non-secret and non-confidential. Observe mobile phone users conducting private conversations - is it okay to eavesdrop on them? Does the fact you've overheard private details give you the right to make it public?
Yes, you can argue that the speaker didn't make enough effort to ensure others within earshot didn't hear them, but the fact remains the conversation wasn't (a) aimed at her and (b) broadcast to everyone. It was words spoken amongst that group that she could hear and took offence to.
@markfiend said:
And at least one of the guys involved has admitted that the dongle comment was a dick joke.
I don't see what difference that makes. It was a pureile remark, smutty and immature, but it wasn't sexist. Perhaps, in the name of sexual equality, he should have made followed up with a vagina joke? What if it was a woman making a dick joke? Would she have reacted the same or differently? Or, more importantly, should she have reacted any differently?
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Sorry, flame all you want but I think my analogy was spot on for this: Somebody overhears somebody else NOT TALKING TO THEM (key point there) say something that they find offensive, and they start up a shitstorm over it because they felt offended by something that didn't involve them at all and was none of their business to begin with. That's exactly what Adria did: The two guys were in no way, shape or form talking to her. They didn't make any flirtacious or lewd comments to her. They were having a private conversation that she happened to overhear because she was sitting in the row in front of them. She should have done one of the following:
1) Ignore it as they aren't talking to her and it's none of her business
2) Turn around and be like "Hey guys I'm sorry to interrupt but I don't think that kind of talk is appropriate, could you take it elsewhere?"
It would have been a different story had one of the guys been giving a presentation to the room and to start he was like "There are some hotties here whose repositories I'd love to fork!" or "So anyone want to see my dongle?", in which case she would have had every right to inform the conference that hey that's not cool. What she did wasn't acceptable by any means; it may even be construed as libel as now at least one of these guys may have a reputation as being some sexist pig.
Adria was looking for trouble, plain and simple. As other links have shown, she's a known shit-stirrer that was ready to jump on anything construed as anti-women or sexist or anything offensive to her.
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@dhromed said:
@Severity One said:
It's always fascinating how outsiders consider "Europe" to be this homogenous place
QFT.
Stop talking about "Europe". Start talking about its countries. France, Germany, Netherlands, England, Spain, etc. Europe is just a place on a map.
Really? You mean that, say, Greece and England aren't basically similar like, say, Idaho and Texas? Wasn't one of your Archbishops of Canterbury named Papadopolis?
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@bridget99 said:
You mean that, say, Greece and England aren't basically similar like, say, Idaho and Texas?
You don't have to pretend to ask a question. You can just present your views on state/country variance and we can discuss it.
@bridget99 said:
Wasn't one of your Archbishops of Canterbury named Papadopolis?
Who knows. Why would I care about what Archbishops do?
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@dhromed said:
@bridget99 said:
You mean that, say, Greece and England aren't basically similar like, say, Idaho and Texas?
You don't have to pretend to ask a question. You can just present your views on state/country variance and we can discuss it.
@bridget99 said:
Wasn't one of your Archbishops of Canterbury named Papadopolis?
Who knows. Why would I care about what Archbishops do?
I don't really have any views on that, except for what I originally said. Basically, I think America is a bit dehumanising compared to the parts of Europe I've been to. America is so big and anonymous that people feel more free to act like dicks. I do. If you do that in a smaller European country, you're much more likely to find out that the guy you insulted or cheated is your wife's second cousin (or something). I don't think this is an unfair generalization... it's just physical geography. There aren't any big, anonymous new world countries in Europe. I know this. I've been to EPCOT center.
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@dhromed said:
@bridget99 said:
You mean that, say, Greece and England aren't basically similar like, say, Idaho and Texas?
You don't have to pretend to ask a question. You can just present your views on state/country variance and we can discuss it.
Can we? Are you insisting on a different kind of snark now?
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@bridget99 said:
Wasn't one of your Archbishops of Canterbury named Papadopolis?
I really don't think so.
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@bridget99 said:
Basically, I think America is a bit dehumanising compared to the parts of Europe I've been to. America is so big and anonymous that people feel more free to act like dicks. I do. If you do that in a smaller European country, you're much more likely to find out that the guy you insulted or cheated is your wife's second cousin (or something). I don't think this is an unfair generalization... it's just physical geography. There aren't any big, anonymous new world countries in Europe. I know this. I've been to EPCOT center.
This sounds more like a big city vs small community thing to me. Though another issue that probably contributes to that feeling is that Americans have probably been a lot more geographically mobile than Europeans. With Mediterranean economies cratering, however, this may be changing. Even so, it's still gotta be a lot easier (linguistically, culturally) to move between regions of America than countries in Europe.
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@boomzilla said:
@bridget99 said:
Basically, I think America is a bit dehumanising compared to the parts of Europe I've been to. America is so big and anonymous that people feel more free to act like dicks. I do. If you do that in a smaller European country, you're much more likely to find out that the guy you insulted or cheated is your wife's second cousin (or something). I don't think this is an unfair generalization... it's just physical geography. There aren't any big, anonymous new world countries in Europe. I know this. I've been to EPCOT center.
This sounds more like a big city vs small community thing to me. Though another issue that probably contributes to that feeling is that Americans have probably been a lot more geographically mobile than Europeans. With Mediterranean economies cratering, however, this may be changing. Even so, it's still gotta be a lot easier (linguistically, culturally) to move between regions of America than countries in Europe.
Yeah, that's all true... but people in small towns in America are pretty mean in my experience (and not just to outsiders).
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@boomzilla said:
Even so, it's still gotta be a lot easier (linguistically, culturally) to move between regions of America than countries in Europe.
It most definitely is.
In the USA, you can drive for an entire day to a wildly different natural environment without losing the ability to casually speak to people*. That's pretty much the opposite of Europe.
*) that's how I imagine it, though. I've barely left my own borders and I don't speak casually anyway. I'm also heeding my Canadian uncle's words who warned me to not underestimate the size of these massive countries (USA and Canada)
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@dhromed said:
@boomzilla said:
Even so, it's still gotta be a lot easier (linguistically, culturally) to move between regions of America than countries in Europe.
It most definitely is.
In the USA, you can drive for an entire day to a wildly different natural environment without losing the ability to casually speak to people*. That's pretty much the opposite of Europe.
*) that's how I imagine it, though. I've barely left my own borders and I don't speak casually anyway. I'm also heeding my Canadian uncles words who warned me to not underestimate the size of these massive countries (USA and Canada)
The other difference is that, in America, you really wouldn't want to do that. Germany invented the automocar, America invented power locks.
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@bridget99 said:
The other difference is that, in America, you really wouldn't want to do that.
I don't think your world-frightened demeanor is representative of most North-Americans.
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@dhromed said:
In the USA, you can drive for an entire day to a wildly different natural environment without losing the ability to casually speak to people*. That's pretty much the opposite of Europe.
*) that's how I imagine it, though. I've barely left my own borders and I don't speak casually anyway. I'm also heeding my Canadian uncle's words who warned me to not underestimate the size of these massive countries (USA and Canada)
Yes, that's true*. Even people who grew up in relative densely settled parts of the country (i.e., the Mid-Atlantic / Northeast) don't understand what it's like to be out in the middle of nowhere, especially in a desert environment where you can see things 50 miles away, and there's just nothing there.
I imagine people treat bridget99 as poorly as they do because his real life personality is so similar to his TDWTF trolling. I mean, people are people, and sometimes they're just not nice, but many of them are, even to strangers, depending on circumstances and how you approach things and present yourself.
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@markfiend said:
FTFY.MaybeShe made a bad call.Maybe.But even if I were to accept that she "handled this hugely inappropriately" would that make DDoSing her company website and her personal website, sending her death threats and rape threats OK? Does that make her spineless company firing her OK? Does that make the torrent of abuse she's had (and is still getting) all over the Internet OK?None of it is okay. But the proximate cause of everything that has happened in this event was her overreaction to something that didn't involve her at all. That fact is indisputable.
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@boomzilla said:
I mean, people are people, and sometimes they're just not nice, but many of them are, even to strangers, depending on circumstances and how you approach things and present yourself.
I always approach people brandishing a wobbly purple dildo, so maybe that's part of my problem.
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@bridget99 said:
People in Europe do seem to be better at treating each other like real human beings, instead of stereotypes or examples.
Germany 1933 - 1945 notwithstanding.
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@dhromed said:
@bridget99 said:
The other difference is that, in America, you really wouldn't want to do that.
I don't think your world-frightened demeanor is representative of most North-Americans.
I just don't fake enthusiasm/confidence as well as most Americans. That crap is expected here.
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@dhromed said:
I always approach people brandishing a wobbly purple dildo, so maybe that's part of my problem.
Curiously, I always approach people brandishing a wobbly purple dildo, proposing it to be part of the solution.
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@markfiend said:
Direct confrontation between one woman and two men? I'm willing to bet big bucks she'd have been told "shut up and sit down bitch"... exactly in the same way as ObiWayneKenobi basically told her by proxy just there. As for following procedures, would you remember, off the top of your head, in the heat of the moment, the grievance procedure at a proffessional conference? Tweeting to the organisers "I have a problem with these guys" is a best-guess.
Procedures? Over a silly joke? Had it been a women in our technology department, she would have not followed procedure, but instead probably told those two w*nkers in no uncertain terms what she thought about the size of their dongles.I'm not saying that we should condone sexually offensive jokes, because we shouldn't. But there's also the issue of making a mountain out of a molehill, and going all procedural and formal over it. Report it to the orgnanisation? For goodness sake. If your neighbour's dog shits on your lawn, do you file a police report, or do you take it up with the neighbour first?
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I wonder if she can accept the fact that connectors are called male and female, and no, it's not just slang.
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I'm actually very uncomfortable with people entertaining the idea that making dirty jokes about hardware is wrong.
Overall, my view of the situation is:
- The neckbeards did nothing wrong. Or at least nothing recorded to be wrong in these posts.
- The professional offendee screwed up her own life and made herself unhappy by her own hand, so that situation resolves itself.
- One of the neckbeards got fired either for some other reason or because one of their superiors was unreasonable (maybe they will post about it on this site).
Now for some troll-baiting.
My PM asked me to take a backup of the database and make sure there's a record somewhere, so I took a dump on the server and left a log. It's now backed-up.
My official position is that I now condone sexually offensive humour until people grow a spine about it.
Perhaps a better start to this thread would be "Holy crap! This woman is insane!"
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@Shoreline said:
sexually offensive humour
Isn't all humour offensive in some way, to someone? Its premise is based upon mocking the situation, or individuals misunderstanding in the situation.
Just a matter if you find it offensive, and which your next course of action will be:
- accept it wasn't directed personally at you, smooth your ruffled feathers, move on
- decide that - out of the multitude of comments, conversations, jokes that have been told - you ought to single that one out as the basis of a tubthumping protest that escalates out of control.
yeah, I bit...
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@Cassidy said:
Isn't all humour offensive in some way, to someone?
No, unless you're going to get really pedantic and find someone offended by chickens crossing roads, for example.
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@PJH said:
and find someone offended by chickens crossing roads
It's an outrage that bridges were not constructed to facilitate safer crossing of such a dangerous high-speed traffic conduits.
I shall be writing to my MP in protest, demanding action.
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If your neighbour's dog shits on your lawn, do you file a police report, or do you take it up with the neighbour first?
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@shimon said:
I wonder if she can accept the fact that connectors are called male and female, and no, it's not just slang.
I'm sure as easily as the LA County can accept [url="http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/outrage/master.asp"]Master/Slave on motherboards[/url].
@Shoreline said:
My official position is that I now condone sexually offensive humour until people grow a spine pair about it.
Innappropriately fixed that for you.
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@Lorne Kates said:
@Shoreline said:
My official position is that I now condone sexually offensive humour until people grow a spine pair about it.
Inappropriately fixed that for you.
I'm taking offense. I'm taking it to between our lawns to stop your dog shitting on mine. I'm also doing it professionally.
@Cassidy said:
yeah, I bit...
It's cool. I've had my shots.
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@bridget99 said:
And reason can lead us astray. Feelings seldom do. "Trust your gut," as the saying goes.
Yeah, right. That's why casinos have such a hard time making any profit these days.
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@Lorne Kates said:
Let me rephrase it then: if your neighbour's dog shits on your lawn and you don't live in a country with a constitutional right to bear arms, do you file a police report, or do you take it up with the neighbour first?If your neighbour's dog shits on your lawn, do you file a police report, or do you take it up with the neighbour first?
Appropriate responses seem to range from requesting a DNA test on the dog poop to track down Poochie McCrimerson, to just outright murdering them.
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@Severity One said:
do you file a police report, or do you take it up with the neighbour first?
Why not take a picture of it and post to Twitter, calling your neighbour an inconsiderate twunt? That sounds like a good idea...
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@Severity One said:
Since "murder" != "shooting"...@Lorne Kates said:
Let me rephrase it then: if your neighbour's dog shits on your lawn and you don't live in a country with a constitutional right to bear arms, do you file a police report, or do you take it up with the neighbour first?If your neighbour's dog shits on your lawn, do you file a police report, or do you take it up with the neighbour first?
Appropriate responses seem to range from requesting a DNA test on the dog poop to track down Poochie McCrimerson, to just outright murdering them.
Appropriate responses seem to range from requesting a DNA test on the dog poop to track down Poochie McCrimerson, to just outright murdering them.
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@PJH said:
Why not take a picture of it and post to Twitter, calling your neighbour an inconsiderate twunt? That sounds like a good idea...
Or take a photo of the neighbour and upload that, rallying the rake-waving masses against the offence public defecation causes us sensitive caring types.
