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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
And of course, to charge it, you would need an adapter.
Tesla did it first. Well, the J-numbers connector that pretty much every other electric car uses isn't fully standard yet, but it's getting there.
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@Carnage I know. The Reliant Robin was a 3-wheeler.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
@Carnage I know. The Reliant Robin was a 3-wheeler.
Germany figures that 16-yo is better off driving three wheelers...
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@Carnage Given it's not actually a three-wheeler, and the chassis is obviously adapted from a normal four-wheeler, it makes … no sense. Except due to silly regulations I guess.
Two wheels in front and one in the back does seem quite a bit more stable than one wheel in front like the Reliant Robin though. Weight shifts to front when slowing down, so that's where having two wheels is important.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
@Arantor said in In other news today...:
@MrL Apple don't make cars, but if they did, they'd be magical and revolutionary. And they wouldn't have buttons, they'd have a notch.
Car makers have pre-empted that already: Thats where the rear-view mirror goes!
*Shudders* Don't think Apple would use something archaic and commonplace as a mirror.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra said in In other news today...:
@Arantor said in In other news today...:
@MrL Apple don't make cars, but if they did, they'd be magical and revolutionary. And they wouldn't have buttons, they'd have a notch.
Car makers have pre-empted that already: Thats where the rear-view mirror goes!
*Shudders* Don't think Apple would use something archaic and commonplace as a mirror.
It's called the Magic Mirror, it's not actually a mirror...
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@Tsaukpaetra Mirror, mirror on the car... who's the most innovative of them all
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
@Carnage I know. The Reliant Robin was a 3-wheeler.
Has that thingy been invented before or after Mercedes Benz A Class?
(No, the answer is notyes
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@Applied-Mediocrity Would the Ford T-Model pass as a "light 4-wheeled vehicle" (i.e. a quad) these days?
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra Mirror, mirror on the car... who's the most innovative of them all
Magic mirror on the car, who’s the most innovative by far?
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@BernieTheBernie said in In other news today...:
@acrow said in In other news today...:
@Carnage I know. The Reliant Robin was a 3-wheeler.
Has that thingy been invented before or after Mercedes Benz A Class?
(No, the answer is notyes
).It isn't? That statement sure sounds tautological to me.
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@acrow Probably. B1 category (quads) here is limited to 15 kW. As it happens, the original Model T engine is 14.9.
However, it would almost definitely fall afoul of various safety requirements. There is a historic automobile category that relieves one of safety and emissions tests, but one of the rules state that it may not be used as everyday vehicle.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in In other news today...:
@acrow Probably. B1 category (quads) here is limited to 15 kW. As it happens, the original Model T engine is 14.9.
However, it would almost definitely fall afoul of various safety requirements. There is a historic automobile category that relieves one of safety and emissions tests, but one of the rules state that it may not be used as everyday vehicle.B1 here has a weight limit of 400kg and the Model T weight more than that. It'd need a full B license.
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@loopback0 Just another thing where (and UK-ian) legislation is a clusterfuck, with France allowing people on public roads without any license and others having random weight, power and age limitations
I mean, it sounds like a good idea in theory, but it has been likened to sale of alcohol the same way - if you're just the legal drinking age, no more than 4.5% for you. Two years of experience later you may "operate" strong beers, then two more for wines and finally the long-awaited unlimited category.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in In other news today...:
if you're just the legal drinking age, no more than 4.5% for you. Two years of experience later you may "operate" strong beers, then two more for wines and finally the long-awaited unlimited category
That's a per-country thing too. We don't have this here.
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@Bulb I suppose I should have added there. I don't believe bullshit like that exists anywhere.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in In other news today...:
@Bulb I suppose I should have added there. I don't believe bullshit like that exists anywhere.
NL used to have generic alcohol at 16+ but distilled at 18+. I don't know if the distinction still exists since they raised the generic minimum to 18 a few years ago.
That one was really about distilled though - a low-alcohol mixed drink would still count as distilled because typically at least one of the components would be a distilled drink.
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@PleegWat same in Germany. Beer, wine, etc. is 16+, spirits is 18+.
Either of them is sale or consumption in public. You are allowed to have a beer at home with parental supervision earlier. (That doesn’t seem explicitly stated, but I think it’s true, and it’s at least commonly practiced.)
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
Beer, wine, etc. is 16+, spirits is 18+.
Either of them is sale or consumption in public.Here you can drink but not buy beer, wine or cider with a meal in public if you're 16+ and there's an adult present. You can buy alcohol if you're 18+.
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And maybe we could cut the uninteresting cultural exchange with a simple comprehensive listing.
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@Carnage Given it's not actually a three-wheeler, and the chassis is obviously adapted from a normal four-wheeler, it makes … no sense. Except due to silly regulations I guess.
Two wheels in front and one in the back does seem quite a bit more stable than one wheel in front like the Reliant Robin though. Weight shifts to front when slowing down, so that's where having two wheels is important.
Which is why this setup was used for Velorex
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@Kamil-Podlesak … the ones that were 3-wheeled that is; it says the cooperative made some 4-wheeled vehicles too.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
And maybe we could cut the uninteresting cultural exchange with a simple comprehensive listing.
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@PleegWat said in In other news today...:
@BernieTheBernie said in In other news today...:
@acrow said in In other news today...:
@Carnage I know. The Reliant Robin was a 3-wheeler.
Has that thingy been invented before or after Mercedes Benz A Class?
(No, the answer is notyes
).It isn't? That statement sure sounds tautological to me.
Almost, but not quite. They could have been invented simultaneously, in which case both "before" and "after" would be false.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
@Applied-Mediocrity said in In other news today...:
@Tsaukpaetra Mirror, mirror on the car... who's the most innovative of them all
Magic mirror on the car, who’s the most innovative by far?
Magic mirror in the car, whos the safest in this car?
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
@Arantor And it would be an electric car.
And of course, to charge it, you would need an adapter.
And for that purpose it would not be held to be a phone. Correctly or incorrectly.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@PleegWat said in In other news today...:
@BernieTheBernie said in In other news today...:
@acrow said in In other news today...:
@Carnage I know. The Reliant Robin was a 3-wheeler.
Has that thingy been invented before or after Mercedes Benz A Class?
(No, the answer is notyes
).It isn't? That statement sure sounds tautological to me.
Almost, but not quite. They could have been invented simultaneously, in which case both "before" and "after" would be false.
For simultaneity to be possible time would need to be quantized, something we have no evidence for.
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@Gribnit two real numbers can be equal, even if unlikely.
However, relativity already breaks simultaneity.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit two real numbers can be equal, even if unlikely.
However, relativity already breaks simultaneity.
The unlikely bit is the rub. Measurements can be equal and numbers can be equal, but even once we allow for perfect measurement accuracy AND precision to the bounds (within macro) the likelihood of equality of measured values is 0*
. I'd argue this even holds for measuring reference masses, if I get to insist on all the 0s out to real being significant.In short, Kronecker had it exactly backwards and reversibility has always been a convenient fiction.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
However, relativity already breaks simultaneity.
It, however, does so that the ‘neither before nor after’ range is larger: for any two events that are outside each other's light cone, the order is observer-dependent.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
And maybe we could cut the uninteresting cultural exchange with a simple comprehensive listing.
Le gasp
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@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
For simultaneity to be possible time would need to be quantized, something we have no evidence for.
Some physicists think time is indeed quantised, but on the scale of Planck time units, which are ridiculously small for absolutely anything we can currently measure.
Simultaneity has other problems anyway. Clock synch is hard.
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
Clock synch is hard.
It is, first of all, observer-dependent. And assumes isotropic universe, though anisotropic universe is basically equivalent to a differently moving observer.
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@dkf said in In other news today...:
Clock synch is hard.
It is, first of all, observer-dependent. And assumes isotropic universe, though anisotropic universe is basically equivalent to a differently moving observer.
Clock synch is hard even locally when all the clocks are in the same reference frame because they're mounted on computers in the same rack cabinet.
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@dkf Clocks on computers connected with a network, whether in the same rack cabinet or not, are subject to the Network Relativity, by which I mean that the effects of asynchronous messaging are largely analogous to General Relativity in universe … with the addition that the network ‘universe’ might be tied to some ugly knots.
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
the scale of Planck time units, which are ridiculously small for absolutely anything we can currently measure
Those can call me back when they stop doubling up on Planck's name and get their own. But, the femtosecond pulse laser is making some progress.
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if this is a good thing is left up to the reader
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@Luhmann said in In other news today...:
Holy shit! catacombs and tomb of the giants are real places! if lady spiders show up I’m glassing this planet.
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Microsoft Won’t Label Fake News as False in an Attempt to Avoid ‘Censorship’ Cries
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Status: Gnnooooooo!
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Even the author of “JavaScript: The Good Parts” is suggesting it’s time to go.
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@Arantor he’s just upset nobody bought an empty book.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
And replace it with something even more bizarre and inexplicable?
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in In other news today...:
@Arantor said in In other news today...:
And replace it with something even more bizarre and inexplicable?
I think we call that "progress" in IT
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in In other news today...:
@Arantor said in In other news today...:
And replace it with something even more bizarre and inexplicable?
Honestly at this point you could replace it with Brainfuck and that would be an improvement right up until someone writes a transpiler for it from JS.