WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Windows 10 "Pro" offers little more control than the Home version.
There's plenty more it's just that a lot of it isn't any use to home users.
It's almost as if that's the point of the two versions...
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@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
There's plenty more it's just that a lot of it isn't any use to home users.
It's almost as if that's the point of the two versions...Sorry, but an OS that doesn't allow you:
- to choose which updates get installed
- to disable telemetry entirely
- to shut down certain processes that are in no way system-critical
- to reboot the system only when you actually want it
doesn't deserve to be called "Pro".
(: yeah, you can "cheat" by using third-party tools, but 1) they shouldn't be required in the first place, and 2) they can't be relied upon, as MS regularly changes things to break them. You can also use the Enterprise version... except there's no way of getting it legally if you're not a medium-large company.)
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I must start looking into viability of migrating to Linux. I always assumed I had too many games that were Windows only for that but the more I look the more I think it's time I re-evaluated that position.
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
There's plenty more it's just that a lot of it isn't any use to home users.
It's almost as if that's the point of the two versions...Sorry, but an OS that doesn't allow you:
- to choose which updates get installed
- to disable telemetry entirely
- to shut down certain processes that are in no way system-critical
- to reboot the system only when you actually want it
doesn't deserve to be called "Pro".
Maybe but what you said was that if offered little more control than Home, which is what I disagreed with.
Although 10 Pro does allow you to disable telemetry and updates though via group policy. 11 Pro allows you to disable updates, although appears to have removed the telemetry option.
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
There's plenty more it's just that a lot of it isn't any use to home users.
It's almost as if that's the point of the two versions...Sorry, but an OS that doesn't allow you:
- to choose which updates get installed
- to disable telemetry entirely
- to shut down certain processes that are in no way system-critical
- to reboot the system only when you actually want it
doesn't deserve to be called "Pro".
(: yeah, you can "cheat" by using third-party tools, but 1) they shouldn't be required in the first place, and 2) they can't be relied upon, as MS regularly changes things to break them. You can also use the Enterprise version... except there's no way of getting it legally if you're not a medium-large company.)
Windows 10 L33T Edition, coming December 2034!
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
While on the subject, is there a way to configure it so it doesn't clobber the clipboard?
May I introduce you to + V? An option in Windows 10 that is actual useful. No problem anymore with stuff disappearing from the clipboard.
I use it many, many times a day.
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@Arantor said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I must start looking into viability of migrating to Linux. I always assumed I had too many games that were Windows only for that but the more I look the more I think it's time I re-evaluated that position.
Valve seems to be making progress with that in the steam deck platform. I hope they'll release a public version of steam os 3 for download, but if not, I'll probably just make do with their comparability shim on some other distro.
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@Carnage I used to be a Mac owner (2011 model with an nVidia GPU on board) which was a pretty poor showing even with CrossOver and Parallels, but even though it was years ago, it’s put me off trying it again.
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@littletijn said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
May I introduce you to + V? An option in Windows 10 that is actual useful. No problem anymore with stuff disappearing from the clipboard.
I use it many, many times a day.
Too late. I already know about it.
I do use it occasionally, but I don't like to rely on it. I work in too many different machines with different configurations.
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I have a knock off Chinese Xbox 360 wireless receiver connected to my desktop. It worked for years with the proper Microsoft driver for the official receiver, once you'd manually selected it (some device ID differs so Windows doesn't automatically do so) which you'd occasionally need to do again after a Windows update.
The W10 2004 update broke it so this didn't work, resulting in this faff to get it working:
@loopback0 said in WTF is happening with Windows 10? And nothing else:
1 - Chinese knock off Xbox 360 Wireless Receiver stopped being recognised - fix is to download the drivers from Microsoft, edit the .inf to change the hardware ID to match the unofficial one and use that driver (which requires putting Windows temporarily into test signing mode to accept an unsigned driver) before using device manager to upgrade to the built-in driver that Windows should have used all along
So I expected it to not work in W11 either. I was wrong. Selecting the Microsoft-provided driver (which claims to be the W10 driver that didn't work in W10) just works.
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Maybe they introduced a new bug that somehow cancelled the effect of the previous one?
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Maybe they introduced a new bug that somehow cancelled the effect of the previous one?
Pathfinder WotR patch notes are
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@Zecc billion
dollar€ fine when?
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Filed under: Bluescreen as a Service
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
How did they spot it in an insider build if insider builds' BSODs are meant to be green?
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Maybe MS messed up?
I wouldn't blame them too much, it's really hard to tell the difference between insider builds and the version that gets released to everyone
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@TimeBandit That sums up my thoughts at the moment.
It's pretty neat that having secure boot disabled secures my system against "accidental" Windows 11 upgrades.
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@cvi said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
It's pretty neat that having secure boot disabled secures my system against "accidental" Windows 11 upgrades.
Be right back after a reboot, I need to go in my BIOS...
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EDITED TO ADD: It’s actually worse than I thought. Edge urges users to store passwords, ID numbers, and even passport numbers, all of which get uploaded to Microsoft by default when synch is enabled.
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
EDITED TO ADD: It’s actually worse than I thought. Edge urges users to store passwords, ID numbers, and even passport numbers, all of which get uploaded to Microsoft by default when synch is enabled.
Horrible, absolutely horrible. Only Microsoft could come up with something so evil.
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@MrL Only because
FacebookMeta doesn't have an OS.I'm not sure what
GoogleAlphabet's excuse is.Edit: oh right, they've probably already gotten part of it through Gmail and the rest uses Google accounts for authentication anyway.
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@MrL Only because
FacebookMeta doesn't have an OS.I'm not sure what
GoogleAlphabet's excuse is.“Don't. Be Evil.”
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@MrL Only because
FacebookMeta doesn't have an OS.I'm not sure what
GoogleAlphabet's excuse is.That's what pretty much every password manager and PIM does. I had it in Opera before Chrome even existed.
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@MrL said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
That's what pretty much every password manager and PIM does.
Not without being asked to.
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@topspin said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
@MrL said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
That's what pretty much every password manager and PIM does.
Not without being asked to.
Edge urges users to store
Looks like it asks.
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@MrL said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Looks like it asks.
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You're being unfair. I'm sure there's a "No, but ask me again in 5 minutes" option.
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
You're being unfair. I'm sure there's a "No, but ask me again in 5 minutes" option.
That would infringe on Google's patents.
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@Zerosquare No need for that. It just resets after every Windows Update.
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
You're being unfair. I'm sure there's a "No, but ask me again in 5 minutes" option.
Hidden in the basement behind the door with a sign "beware of leopard".
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@Gąska do you have a spare torch? The lights are out.
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@Arantor I've got a torch, but there are no batteries in it.
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@PleegWat torches and batteries don't really mix. I'm sure there's a video on either Electroboom's or Colin Furze's channel.
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@Zerosquare said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
EDITED TO ADD: It’s actually worse than I thought. Edge urges users to store passwords, ID numbers, and even passport numbers, all of which get uploaded to Microsoft by default when synch is enabled.
This seems like it's begging for a GDPR lawsuit.
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See? Leaking passwords is a feature. You guys got it all wrong.
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There's a lot packed into this download:
Window 11 Enterprise (evaluation) Windows 10 SDK, version 2004 (10.0.19041.0) Visual Studio 2019 (latest as of 10/09/21) with the UWP, .NET desktop, and Azure workflows enabled and includes the Windows Template Studio extension. Visual Studio Code (latest as of 10/09/21) Windows Subsystem for Linux enabled with Ubuntu installed Developer mode enabled Windows Terminal installed
According to Microsoft, these virtual machines will expire on 01/09/22.
Have they made other similar free "prefabs" before? I don't remember.
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Window 11
Just the one in the evaluation copy. For more windows, please purchase a license.
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Have they made other similar free "prefabs" before? I don't remember.
Yes. I still have (probably) the image you're supposed to use to package an App for Windows Centennial that I never got working.
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@Zecc said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
Have they made other similar free "prefabs" before? I don't remember.
Well, they've had old vm downloads at https://modern.ie for many years now (I know they used to have like IE6 on XP, back when it still had a few percent market share and was a thing one might still want to test). And I think they've had plenty of OS download options available with a MSDN subscription all along (Like, I think you can still get a legal copy of just about every Microsoft OS back to MS-DOS 5.0 that way). I don't know if any of those is this kind of "prefab" in the way you mean, though.
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@pcooper said in WTF is happening with Windows 11? And nothing else:
I don't know if any of those is this kind of "prefab" in the way you mean, though
No. As in "click the package, Hyper-V instantiates the VM with everything already configured"
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"Any attempt to patch the binary directly will break windows installer. So you better wait and see how Microsoft will screw the patch again."
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@Zerosquare That researcher is an asshole. "Microsoft reduced their bounties, so I'm announcing this zero-day to the world instead!" Fucking asshole.
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@dcon it's not his first zero-day. He used to be very active in Microsoft's bug bounty program. According to his Twitter post from last year, one of his earlier exploits was supposed to yield him $10,000, but MS has changed the rules and he only got $1,000. Seems like he became sour after that. I don't blame him; I'd be pissed too. He's still doing MS a service by publishing it instead of keeping it to himself or selling it on darknet.