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@izzion said in In other news today...:
Tss... Beginners! München (Munich) can do better, proof shown back in 1994:
Well, a couple of years later, Köln (Cologne) managed to sink the Haus der Deutschen Geschichte (House of German History) while building their underground railway.
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Employees moving out of silly valley complaining about pay deductions in 5... 4...
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@DogsB At a company I worked for many years ago, you got a salary of $X, which was fixed, regardless of where you lived/worked. You also got a "geographic differential" if you lived/worked in a high-cost area. For Silicon Valley, IIRC, the geographic differential was 13%. You lost some or all of that if you moved to a different location, depending on the cost of living there (or gained it, if you moved to a more expensive area, but Silly Valley was the most expensive area). Given today's costs, a 13% salary cut to move from Silly Valley to, say, Texas would be totally worth it, and then some.
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@remi said in In other news today...:
But for several years they still had to introduce themselves as "new name
formerly known asold name
", which for a small research group who is already struggling to get any recognition, is far from ideal.I just knew a Prince joke was coming.
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@Karla said in In other news today...:
the artist formerly known as Prince?
Formerly, yes. He's dead now. (Last year? Year before? I remember seeing the obits.)
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Someone doesn't understand Rugby terminology...
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@DoctorJones There's a relevant joke I remember:
What is the difference between pride and stress?
Pride: When your son is the hooker of the national rugby team
Stress: When your daughter is the hooker of the national rugby team
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
@Karla said in In other news today...:
the artist formerly known as Prince?
Formerly, yes. He's dead now. (Last year? Year before? I remember seeing the obits.)
- Time flies.
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@Karla said in In other news today...:
I just knew a Prince joke was coming.
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
@Karla said in In other news today...:
the artist formerly known as Prince?
Formerly, yes. He's dead now. (Last year? Year before? I remember seeing the obits.)
Well done.
Iirc it was more than a decade ago.
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@boomzilla It's a technology quite likely to end up being banned, and to possibly cause software development to become a more regulated profession. That would be a game changer, indeed.
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⁞I didn't say it would be a good game changer.
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@boomzilla A little less than two thirds (and more closer to 3/5) is a strange meaning of the word "most"
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@boomzilla Graphic cards being hoarded by cryptominers means the games you play will have to be less demanding.
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@boomzilla which year is this? I would have thought the IBM-Style buzzword bingo-ing of “blockchain” has stopped impressing anyone years ago.
Next thing we know they’re going to start talking about the semantic web.
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@Zecc said in In other news today...:
Graphic cards being hoarded by cryptominers means the games you play will have to be less demanding.
And if Chia's cryptofarming actually becomes a thing: SSDs/harddrives being hoarded means the games you play will have to start taking less space.
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@cvi economics is the study of the distribution of scarce resources
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@Gribnit What you're saying is that in a hypothetical post-scarcity world, we wouldn't need any economists? Most compelling argument for working towards such yet.
Filed under: Yeah, sure, eradicating poverty is a worthwhile goal as well.
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit What you're saying is that in a hypothetical post-scarcity world, we wouldn't need any economists? Most compelling argument for working towards such yet.
Filed under: Yeah, sure, eradicating poverty is a worthwhile goal as well.
What about lawyers? Do we still have lawyers in that world??
Filed under: BRB, solving poverty
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit What you're saying is that in a hypothetical post-scarcity world, we wouldn't need any economists? Most compelling argument for working towards such yet.
Filed under: Yeah, sure, eradicating poverty is a worthwhile goal as well.
In all seriousness, you misunderstood. This definition was specifically designed to re-define economics as a branch of theoretical mathematics, so economists are relevant regardless of the real-world application. So yes, even in a post-scarcity world, there will be people working on these distribution models.
Of course, the reason why it was coined is not an imminent danger of post-scarcity. The real reason is that it was becoming more and more obvious (although politically incorrect) that economics in the classical sense is just a branch of sociology (or even anthropology) and does not make much sense without the rest. Of course, the sensible solution would be to consolidate all social sciences, but that would demote economists from STEM to "soft-sciences" or even "humanities" and we can't have that, can we?
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
that would demote economists from STEM to "soft-sciences" or even "humanities" and we can't have that, can we?
Economists consider themselves STEM?
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
that would demote economists from STEM to "soft-sciences" or even "humanities" and we can't have that, can we?
Economists consider themselves STEM?
Never heard that. All my professors said that economy is somewhere between STEM and humanities.
They also had nothing but disdain for sociology.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
Economists consider themselves STEM?
I once talked to a bunch of postdocs that considered themselves "experimental economists". When they introduced themselves that way, my hair stood on end. Experimental economists? Surely nothing bad can come from that...
(But, alas, there was free food and beer, so I decided to stick around.)
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
Economists consider themselves STEM?
I once talked to a bunch of postdocs that considered themselves "experimental economists". When they introduced themselves that way, my hair stood on end. Experimental economists? Surely nothing bad can come from that...
(But, alas, there was free food and beer, so I decided to stick around.)
And you decided to ask how they perform experiments, right?
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
And you decided to ask how they perform experiments, right?
Of course. I don't really remember the details (free beer, remember), but they mentioned something about manipulating people on online platforms like reddit to massively buy into some random stock. Sounded like a pretty fun project.
j/k - it was mostly about creating and studying simulations.
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@MrL said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
that would demote economists from STEM to "soft-sciences" or even "humanities" and we can't have that, can we?
Economists consider themselves STEM?
Never heard that. All my professors said that economy is somewhere between STEM and humanities.
Professors of economy? Possible, especially in environment when there are professors of Mathematics and Physics around.
However... isn't Poland one of the countries with special "Engineer" title (Inżynier / Magister Inżynier I believe) given to graduates from mechanical engineering, EE, IT and economic schools? Because this means that economics is officially, by a law, part of the STEM (the E part).
They also had nothing but disdain for sociology.
Well, that is the point.
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
Economists consider themselves STEM?
I once talked to a bunch of postdocs that considered themselves "experimental economists". When they introduced themselves that way, my hair stood on end. Experimental economists? Surely nothing bad can come from that...
What's scary about that?
People have some really weird notions about economy/economists.
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
@MrL said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
that would demote economists from STEM to "soft-sciences" or even "humanities" and we can't have that, can we?
Economists consider themselves STEM?
Never heard that. All my professors said that economy is somewhere between STEM and humanities.
Professors of economy?
Yes
However... isn't Poland one of the countries with special "Engineer" title (Inżynier / Magister Inżynier I believe) given to graduates from mechanical engineering, EE, IT and economic schools? Because this means that economics is officially, by a law, part of the STEM (the E part).
No
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@MrL said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
that would demote economists from STEM to "soft-sciences" or even "humanities" and we can't have that, can we?
Economists consider themselves STEM?
Never heard that. All my professors said that economy is somewhere between STEM and humanities.
They also had nothing but disdain for sociology.
My Soc professor just gave up and rambled on personal gripes the whole class, which was actually pretty effective. Poli Sci was closer to STEM.
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@TimeBandit I don't find anything that says that in TFA or the linked study, so I'm going to Fact Check: Bzzzt!
so far, medical advances have been unable to beat these biological constraints
So far we haven't quite determined how paracetamol actually works. But it does. If science will re-focus more on figuring things out and less on randomly capitalizing letters its own name, it's possible that we one day will.
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This story isn't, strictly speaking, news today. The story starts a couple of years ago, and there was an update about a week ago.
A disabled Oregon woman with a degenerative nerve disease and respiratory disease visited some friends and was riding home on her mobility scooter. She was stopped by police and told that she couldn't ride her scooter on a sidewalk or crosswalk, and she couldn't ride it without a helmet. She was cited for those offenses and ordered not to ride it home; she'd have to walk home, pushing her scooter. (She was about a mile (1.6km) from home at the time. If she could walk that far, she wouldn't need a mobility device in the first place.)
After being cited, she proceeded to ride her scooter home, because how the F else was she going to get there? The police officers followed her the whole way with lights and siren on in a very low speed chase, but she refused to stop. When she got home, she was arrested for felony fleeing/evading in a motor vehicle. (In some jurisdictions, at least, that's a more serious crime than fleeing on foot, which may only be a misdemeanor.)
She was convicted by a jury and sentenced to 5 days in jail. That's definitely only a token punishment for a felony, which is typically defined as any crime subject to one year or more of imprisonment. But even though the punishment was only token, she was now a convicted felon, with all the problems that brings.
She appealed the conviction, and the Court of Appeals not only tossed out the conviction, but questioned the judgement of everyone involved; the police for arresting her, the District Attorney for prosecuting her, the judge, the jury, and the state Attorney General for trying to defend the conviction against the appeal.
(In defense of the jury's judgement, they are told by the judge what the law is: "The law says X. If you find that the defendant did Y, then that is a violation of the law, and you must find the defendant guilty." If the defendant did, in fact, do Y, they're not allowed to question whether Y is really a violation. Yes, jury nullification is a thing, but most jurors don't know that, and the court certainly isn't going to tell them about it.)
Despite the obvious stupidity involved (and the state's refusal to prosecute far more serious crimes, but this isn't the ), the AG is still considering whether to appeal the Court of Appeals's decision to the state Supreme Court.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
She was convicted by a jury and sentenced to 5 days in jail.
Isn't the point of a jury of peers not to convinct you based on unreasonably idiotic ry?
But even though the punishment was only token
Weird. If the judge is reasonable enough for that, they could've just thrown it out.
she was now a convicted felon, with all the problems that brings.
Ah yes, the insanity of the US judicial system.
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
However... isn't Poland one of the countries with special "Engineer" title (Inżynier / Magister Inżynier I believe) given to graduates from mechanical engineering, EE, IT and economic schools? Because this means that economics is officially, by a law, part of the STEM (the E part).
Yes, there is a special "Engineer" title that is awarded to a certain class of graduates, in addition to any academic degrees, e.g. "magister inżynier" means someone who has both a Master's and an Engineer title.
No, economic schools do not necessarily bestow such a title - I, for one, have a Master's degree in Economics, but am not an Engineer.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
This story isn't, strictly speaking, news today. The story starts a couple of years ago, and there was an update about a week ago.
A disabled Oregon woman with a degenerative nerve disease and respiratory disease visited some friends and was riding home on her mobility scooter. She was stopped by police and told that she couldn't ride her scooter on a sidewalk or crosswalk, and she couldn't ride it without a helmet. She was cited for those offenses and ordered not to ride it home; she'd have to walk home, pushing her scooter. (She was about a mile (1.6km) from home at the time. If she could walk that far, she wouldn't need a mobility device in the first place.)
After being cited, she proceeded to ride her scooter home, because how the F else was she going to get there? The police officers followed her the whole way with lights and siren on in a very low speed chase, but she refused to stop. When she got home, she was arrested for felony fleeing/evading in a motor vehicle. (In some jurisdictions, at least, that's a more serious crime than fleeing on foot, which may only be a misdemeanor.)
She was convicted by a jury and sentenced to 5 days in jail. That's definitely only a token punishment for a felony, which is typically defined as any crime subject to one year or more of imprisonment. But even though the punishment was only token, she was now a convicted felon, with all the problems that brings.
She appealed the conviction, and the Court of Appeals not only tossed out the conviction, but questioned the judgement of everyone involved; the police for arresting her, the District Attorney for prosecuting her, the judge, the jury, and the state Attorney General for trying to defend the conviction against the appeal.
(In defense of the jury's judgement, they are told by the judge what the law is: "The law says X. If you find that the defendant did Y, then that is a violation of the law, and you must find the defendant guilty." If the defendant did, in fact, do Y, they're not allowed to question whether Y is really a violation. Yes, jury nullification is a thing, but most jurors don't know that, and the court certainly isn't going to tell them about it.)
Despite the obvious stupidity involved (and the state's refusal to prosecute far more serious crimes, but this isn't the ), the AG is still considering whether to appeal the Court of Appeals's decision to the state Supreme Court.
This should be grounds for having the AG and prosecutor disbarred for complete lack of any kind of sense, and waste of public funds.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
Isn't the point of a jury of peers not to convinct you based on unreasonably idiotic ry?
No, it's to get a fair trial because the people making the decision are "just like you", not a single judge who may be of a different social class and may have biases associated with that class difference, or be biased toward the government because he's a government employee, or whatever. But the jury determines the facts (did person X do action Y?); the judge instructs the jury on how the law applies to those facts (action Y is a violation of law Z; action Y' is a violation of law Z', but action Y'' is not a violation of any law). If the judge's instructions are unreasonably idiotic ry, the jury is required to follow those instructions.
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@Carnage said in In other news today...:
This should be grounds for having the AG and prosecutor disbarred for complete lack of any kind of sense, and waste of public funds.
Unfortunately, "any kind of sense" is not a requirement for being an AG or prosecutor, and "waste of
public fundsair" is a characteristic of most government employees. Also, this is Oregon, and the prosecutors and AG are guilty of far worse offenses against the citizens of their state, but that's a discussion.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@Carnage said in In other news today...:
This should be grounds for having the AG and prosecutor disbarred for complete lack of any kind of sense, and waste of public funds.
Unfortunately, "any kind of sense" is not a requirement for being an AG or prosecutor, and "waste of
public fundsair" is a characteristic of most government employees. Also, this is Oregon, and the prosecutors and AG are guilty of far worse offenses against the citizens of their state, but that's a discussion.Yeah, we had something similar happen in Sweden a decade or two ago with an old man in a mobility scooter. He was booked for drunk driving on it. But it counted as being a pedestrian. And I think it went all the way to the top courts.
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
"We're just making sure we properly service repeat customers to the best of our abilities."
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
After being cited, she proceeded to ride her scooter home, because how the F else was she going to get there? The police officers followed her the whole way with lights and siren on in a very low speed chase, but she refused to stop. When she got home, she was arrested for felony fleeing/evading in a motor vehicle. (In some jurisdictions, at least, that's a more serious crime than fleeing on foot, which may only be a misdemeanor.)
Hindsight and and all that, but maybe she should have called some sort of emergency service rather than going home (and obviously disobeying a police order, even if it was an obviously moronic one). "Yes, 911, my scooter is broken and I can't get home." Well not sure if it's 911 remit to handle that, but I expect there should be some service that would react (after all, what would she do in case of a real breakdown?).
And then let an EMT look at the police, and bill them the ambulance's cost to bring the lady (and her scooter) back home.
Well maybe I'm just dreaming. Because the sad reality is that even if (when!) the conviction gets ultimately thrown out, she will have lost time, probably money, and stressed a lot, all that thanks to Stupidity.
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@remi said in In other news today...:
Yes, 911, my scooter is broken and I can't get home
"Surely, there's some police officers right in my area to help me out, would you check?"
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@GOG said in In other news today...:
@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
However... isn't Poland one of the countries with special "Engineer" title (Inżynier / Magister Inżynier I believe) given to graduates from mechanical engineering, EE, IT and economic schools? Because this means that economics is officially, by a law, part of the STEM (the E part).
Yes, there is a special "Engineer" title that is awarded to a certain class of graduates, in addition to any academic degrees, e.g. "magister inżynier" means someone who has both a Master's and an Engineer title.
No, economic schools do not necessarily bestow such a title - I, for one, have a Master's degree in Economics, but am not an Engineer.
In my defense, wikipedia actually mentions the Bc variant: https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nauki_ekonomiczne
But of course, it's wikipedia
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
Ransomware is a tax on institutional stupidity.
Yes, but it's collected by a government, so... capitalism, yay?
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in In other news today...:
@dkf said in In other news today...:
@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
Ransomware is a tax on institutional stupidity.
Yes, but it's collected by a government, so... capitalism, yay?
Why US businesses would want to pay tax to the Russians is a little weird, given how they're so keen on dodging it at home…
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
It has been known since millenia that cicadas are too noisy:
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