Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate
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In a Twitter discussion last week on ransomware attacks, KrebsOnSecurity noted that virtually all ransomware strains have a built-in failsafe designed to cover the backsides of the malware purveyors: They simply will not install on a Microsoft Windows computer that already has one of many types of virtual keyboards installed — such as Russian or Ukrainian.
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@boomzilla said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
In a Twitter discussion last week on ransomware attacks, KrebsOnSecurity noted that virtually all ransomware strains have a built-in failsafe designed to cover the backsides of the malware purveyors: They simply will not install on a Microsoft Windows computer that already has one of many types of virtual keyboards installed — such as Russian or Ukrainian.
I guess I'm safe. I keep the Russian keyboard installed for those rare times I need to
talk to my higher-upstalk trash about people in languages they won't generally understand.
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I already have three keyboards installed. What's one more?
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“Our goal is to make money, and not creating problems for society,” the DarkSide criminals wrote last week.
I like how they're implying cybercrime is not a problem for society.
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@Gąska said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
“Our goal is to make money, and not creating problems for society,” the DarkSide criminals wrote last week.
I like how they're implying cybercrime is not a problem for society.
I thought people stopped using the word cyber? Unless its followed by "I put on my hat and wizard robe..."
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@dangeRuss it went corporate.
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@boomzilla said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
@dangeRuss it went corporate.
Did not know cybering was SFW
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@dangeRuss said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
@boomzilla said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
@dangeRuss it went corporate.
Did not know cybering was SFW
Totally depends on the job sector.
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@dangeRuss said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
@Gąska said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
“Our goal is to make money, and not creating problems for society,” the DarkSide criminals wrote last week.
I like how they're implying cybercrime is not a problem for society.
I thought people stopped using the word cyber?
What about the word cybercrime? Is it passę too? What's the replacement?
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@dangeRuss said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
I thought people stopped using the word cyber?
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Welp, now I've installed the Russian keyboard. Only took a couple of minutes, protects me very slightly from things going terribly wrong*. Good enough ROI for me.
*Nothing will protect me from Tsaukpaetra touching my hardware. In either sense.
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@dangeRuss said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
I thought people stopped using the word cyber?
ObXKCD from 2015:
ObXKCD from 2020:
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@Gąska said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
I like how they're implying cybercrime is not a problem for society.
They're not, though; they're just saying that's not why they do it.
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@Gąska said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
passę
Weird, there's a speck of dust on my screen that scrolls with the page...?
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@ixvedeusi It's not dust, it's a gǫose dropping...
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@Gąska said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
“Our goal is to make money, and not creating problems for society,” the DarkSide criminals wrote last week.
I like how they're implying
cybercrimemaking money is not a problem for society.
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Soon: hackers delivering malware via infected virtual keyboards.
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@PotatoEngineer said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
Welp, now I've installed the Russian keyboard.
Wait until you accidentally discover the keystroke combination that switches keyboard mapping. And then try to figure how to switch back, using Google on a Russian keyboard.
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@Bim-Zively said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
And then try to figure how to switch back
You don't need to understand the keyboard to switch between them.
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@Bim-Zively said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
Wait until you accidentally discover the keystroke combination that switches keyboard mapping. And then try to figure how to switch back, using Google on a Russian keyboard.
This was historically a problem already for at least Dutch Windows-users, because as I recall, Windows XP used to install both US-International and Dutch-Netherlands keyboard layouts by default.
Nobody had seen a physical version of the latter for probably twenty years at that point (never mind nowadays), the keyboards used in the Netherlands are all US-International in layout (though with some differences to what’s common in the USA). But pressing Alt+Shift is not an uncommon accident … and then you suddenly found that pressing - produced
/
, or : gave±
, and so on.
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@Bim-Zively said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
@PotatoEngineer said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
Welp, now I've installed the Russian keyboard.
Wait until you accidentally discover the keystroke combination that switches keyboard mapping. And then try to figure how to switch back, using Google on a Russian keyboard.
Win-Space. The same article that explained how to install the language also helpfully explained how to change languages.
But I haven't explained this to my wife yet...
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@PotatoEngineer said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
Win-Space
I probably disabled it (if that's possible) because I hit it accidentally one too many times.
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...and then suddenly a wild СУКА БЛЯТЬ appears!
СУКА БЛЯТЬ uses ЕБАНЫЙ В РОТ НАХУЙ!
It's very effective!
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@PotatoEngineer said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
But I haven't explained this to my wife yet...
As it happened, my wife typo'd Ctrl-Z before I could explain Win-Space to her. (I got my second Covid stabbityness, my daughter stayed up 6 hours at night... it's been a bad few days for us in the "has a brain" department.)
So she managed to switch to the Russian keyboard while I was out with my daughter, and then was terribly, terribly confused about the whole thing. I've explained it now. All is well.
Until the next thing goes wrong.
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@HardwareGeek When it first happened to me, that bar didn't show.
The reason a second language was installed was because another person remoted onto the computer, and his primary keyboard was French, mine being US. When he logged back off, the computer silently switched back to US, and I didn't know at the time that he used a French keyboard (he was in Tunisia, which I didn't know that much about at the time.)
So I'm on this computer that has a second keyboard installed, that I didn't know about. Until I hit whatever the magic switch command (win-space? I'll buy that was it and I fat-fingered it) was and things mysteriously... changed.
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@Bim-Zively said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
Until I hit whatever the magic switch command (win-space? I'll buy that was it and I fat-fingered it)
Ctrl+Shift. Incredibly easy to fat-finger.
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@Gąska Ctrl+Shift is the the hotkey? Really? No wonder I disabled it. I use Ctrl+Shift+whatever in applications a lot. What a stupid thing to use as a keyboard switch hotkey.
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I think it's Alt+Shit, actually. (I'm leaving that typo in)
Still a stupid shortcut.
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@Zecc I probably use that even more than Ctrl+Shift.
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@HardwareGeek The default is indeed Alt+Shift, but it's inconvenient because it's possible to mispress the key combination in a way that would be interpreted as a single press of Alt. The next letter typed would result in the activation of an accelerator label elsewhere in the window, confusing the user.
Ctrl+Shift, on the other hand, is very convenient: a single press of either Ctrl or Shift does nothing, and (at least on Windows) it's only applied on key release, not key press. So all Ctrl+Shift+whatever shortcuts are safe: they don't trigger the layout switch because there's another key pressed at the same time. (Also, with Cyrillic layouts the shortcuts typically work as if the Latin layout was in action at the time of press, so e.g. Ctrl+Shift+Q and Ctrl+Shift+Й usually do the same thing.)
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@Gąska said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
@Bim-Zively said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
Until I hit whatever the magic switch command (win-space? I'll buy that was it and I fat-fingered it)
Ctrl+Shift. Incredibly easy to fat-finger.
I hate that shortcut, and with Windows 10 the associated configuration screen is even harder to find than on previous versions.
Nowadays when I need to configure a new computer I tend to run
Rundll32 Shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL input.dll,,{C07337D3-DB2C-4D0B-9A93-B722A6C106E2}
to immediately open the right dialog. It's then in the "Advanced key settings" tab.
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@JBert said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
C07337D3-DB2C-4D0B-9A93-B722A6C106E2
So mnemonic!
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@dkf said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
@JBert said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
C07337D3-DB2C-4D0B-9A93-B722A6C106E2
So mnemonic!
*mhmm - mhm - mhm mhmhmhmmhm* ... three!
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@aitap said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
@HardwareGeek The default is indeed Alt+Shift
I guess it depends on language. It's definately Ctrl in English (US) and Polish. And it's been around since at least Windows 98.
So all Ctrl+Shift+whatever shortcuts are safe: they don't trigger the layout switch because there's another key pressed at the same time.
Unless the application you're using fucked something up and is polling keyboard in a retarded way so the letter isn't captured by shortcut handler so it does the layout switch. I know because the cheat menu in the original The Sims was opened using Ctrl+Shift+C, which was very annoying because Polish Windows is configured by default to have two keyboard layouts - QWERTY and QWERTZ.
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@Gąska said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
So all Ctrl+Shift+whatever shortcuts are safe: they don't trigger the layout switch because there's another key pressed at the same time.
Or you (me!) can't hit 3 keys at once. I roll into it with Ctrl+Shift, pause while I find the damn key whatever
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@dcon Or leave modifier key(s) pressed while using multiple modified keys. One sequence I use a lot is
Shift+Alt+RMB
Ctrl+Alt+S
Shift+Alt+RMB
Ctrl+Alt+S
Shift+Alt+RMB
Ctrl+Alt+S
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@dkf said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
@JBert said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
C07337D3-DB2C-4D0B-9A93-B722A6C106E2
So mnemonic!
I suppose that if mid-1970s computer hobbyists could remember all the toggle switch positions for putting a program into the memory of an Altair, @JBert can be forgiven for knowing 36 characters by heart.
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@Gurth The first part reminds me of C07EFEFE, but a 7337ier version.
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@Bim-Zively said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
Tunisia
Home of the IT Indians of France ...
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@Luhmann
That reminded me ... in a previous job we organized an advanced training in our IT product for our world wide audience of resellers and partners. Since it was an advanced, international training it was given in English only.
Our Tunisian friends repeatedly send people over that didn't know the basics of IT or English. They generally ended the week with knowing little more.
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@Luhmann said in Try This One Weird Trick Russian Hackers Hate:
They generally ended the week with knowing little more.
Success!