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@tania_v You can defend yourself with a brick to the face.
You can defend yourself by rounding up all your mates, pulling out some fenceposts and going to town on the other lot (the traditional way).
And, yes, you can defend yourself with songs and poetry, which was a significant part of how we kicked out you lot last time.
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@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
@boomzilla said in NodeBB for older browsers:
So what?
There are enough cars for all inhabitants of Earth, Venus and Mars.
And there's no reason for anyone to use antiquated browsers and computers.
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@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
And on Mars, only NASA cars
I think you are confused with NASCAR ... it is the redneck planet
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@boomzilla said in NodeBB for older browsers:
And there's no reason for anyone to use antiquated browsers and computers.
And there is no reason to produce new browsers and computers.
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@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
@GOG said in NodeBB for older browsers:
Besides, "defence" and "military" are not synonyms.
- Can you defend yourself with poetry and songs?
- Google translator can distort my words - I didn't mean like in North Korea, but rather like in Israel
You can't defend yourself from a violent invading army with poetry and songs, no. (You can use literature to subvert a culture and bring it in line with your views, but that's not the same thing.)
A disorganized, violent militia where people are free to come and go as they please can defend themselves against a real army while still being free. (For examples from the history of my country - the US - see the Minutemen of the American Revolution or the Viet Cong of the Vietnam War.)
The principle that individuals need to give up some of their rights when they join the real military is well understood principle in Western democracies like Israel and the US.
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@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
@boomzilla said in NodeBB for older browsers:
And there's no reason for anyone to use antiquated browsers and computers.
And there is no reason to produce new browsers and computers.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear thank you for explaining everything to the child - I would not have enough patience))
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@tania_v you should get a new car.
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@Luhmann said in NodeBB for older browsers:
@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
And on Mars, only NASA cars
I think you are confused with NASCAR ... it is the redneck planet
Uh, a NASCAR race car weighs three tons. And we had a car get minorly tapped, then pop up in the air and flip over onto its roof on Sunday at Talledaga.
The LAST thing we need is to hold a race somewhere with 1/3 the gravity of Earth.
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I believe that all free thinking people begin to be attacked. This enemy is uncontrollable progress. He will destroy us gradually, like boiling a frog. He's already doing it.
If so, then all free thinking people should turn their forums into real military camps. Not in the sense of submission, but in the sense of discussion - is there an enemy? is the enemy far away? what should we do?
This is not a joke, this is not fantasy - this is a reality that is slowly turning us into obedient slaves.
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@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
If so, then all free thinking people should turn their forums into real military camps.
We're more of a hive of scum and villainy.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in NodeBB for older browsers:
You can't defend yourself from a violent invading army with poetry and songs, no. (You can use literature to subvert a culture and bring it in line with your views, but that's not the same thing.)
For a more literal reading of "defend", songs and poetry help cement the fact that the struggle is ongoing, despite the main violent conflict having already been resolved to your detriment. They're also a key weapon in the larger war - the war against subjugation and assimilation.
The US is great at winning the armed portion of the conflict, for example, but tends to ultimately lose the war at the second stage.
@boomzilla said in NodeBB for older browsers:
@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
If so, then all free thinking people should turn their forums into real military camps.
We're more of a hive of scum and villainy.
I posted a literal picture of composing a reply to a few posts back.
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@boomzilla said in NodeBB for older browsers:
you should get a new car.
I am free of these chains - my bike and public transport give me what I need
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@tania_v
get a new trolleybus then ...
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@boomzilla said in NodeBB for older browsers:
We're more of a hive of scum and villainy.
It is these people who become the first heroes.
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@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
@boomzilla said in NodeBB for older browsers:
you should get a new car.
I am free of these chains - my bike and public transport give me what I need
Sucker.
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@Luhmann said in NodeBB for older browsers:
get a new trolleybus then ...
I already wrote - I am a developed being, an instinctive desire to have new pieces of iron - like a crow, magpie ... - I don't))
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@GOG said in NodeBB for older browsers:
@GuyWhoKilledBear said in NodeBB for older browsers:
You can't defend yourself from a violent invading army with poetry and songs, no. (You can use literature to subvert a culture and bring it in line with your views, but that's not the same thing.)
For a more literal reading of "defend", songs and poetry help cement the fact that the struggle is ongoing, despite the main violent conflict having already been resolved to your detriment. They're also a key weapon in the larger war - the war against subjugation and assimilation.
The US is great at winning the armed portion of the conflict, for example, but tends to ultimately lose the war at the second stage.
I was thinking about the opposite point.
Once the militarily imperial forces are no longer in open combat, the winning side, the one who holds the commanding heights of culture has an opportunity. They can force art, literature, religion, and culture more broadly to tell stories that favor their side's culture over the other.
By spreading their culture and artificially disrupting the other side's culture (such as by iron-fistedly controlling the schools), the sides that hold the political power can create a cultural hegemony within a generation or so.
I mean in theory, of course. I don't have any examples of that happening in the real world.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear I do, hence my point. It's hard to convert them as don't want to be converted.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in NodeBB for older browsers:
I don't have any examples of that happening in the real world
There are thousands of examples. For example, the Russian language in Ukraine and other republics of the USSR)) Yes you are right.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in NodeBB for older browsers:
I mean in theory, of course. I don't have any examples of that happening in the real world.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear I see you are an intelligent person - I think you could very well become our chief of staff - or even commander-in-chief
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There are already three of us! Perfectly!
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@GOG said in NodeBB for older browsers:
@GuyWhoKilledBear I do, hence my point. It's hard to convert them as don't want to be converted.
That was sarcasm. There's obviously lots of examples of the culture in power using that power to stamp out competing cultures.
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@GOG said very, very, very important - I almost missed it - that culture is a weapon. So, our enemy hits just this place !!! He wants our culture to become small, simple - and then we will automatically become small and simple too! And what should we do? Read our poems or smash enemy broadcasts?
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@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
@GuyWhoKilledBear I see you are an intelligent person - I think you could very well become our chief of staff - or even commander-in-chief
Just to be clear, who is "us"?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in NodeBB for older browsers:
@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
@Tsaukpaetra said in NodeBB for older browsers:
You can purchase a fifteen-year-old computer that can run a compatible browser to alleviate your issues. No new room required!
Have you tried new browsers for old computers in practice? I've tried it. They do not work.
Yes. I own a fleet of them that I maintain. You'll hear about them from time to time.
LOL! If you want to know if <really weird configuration no one in their right mind would attempt> works or not, @Tsaukpaetra has probably already done it.
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@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
@GOG said very, very, very important - I almost missed it - that culture is a weapon. So, our enemy hits just this place !!! He wants our culture to become small, simple - and then we will automatically become small and simple too! And what should we do? Read our poems or smash enemy broadcasts?
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in NodeBB for older browsers:
Just to be clear, who is "us"?
I + Tsaukpaetra + GuyWhoKilledBear
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@Carnage said in NodeBB for older browsers:
Because they're is a study that says you are wrong.
**twitch**
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in NodeBB for older browsers:
@GOG said in NodeBB for older browsers:
@GuyWhoKilledBear I do, hence my point. It's hard to convert them as don't want to be converted.
That was sarcasm. There's obviously lots of examples of the culture in power using that power to stamp out competing cultures.
No. That's not the point. The point is that the culture in power failed. Miserably.
The US has the same problem; moreso these days.
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@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
I would like to work on Windows 98
I did. No you don't. (There's a few of us ers around here that started on Windows back in the 3.x days - or before.)
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@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
@Tsaukpaetra said in NodeBB for older browsers:
I am an observer. I have no intention of playing the part of a liche.
You are a neuron, you are a separate node in the network - doesn't a neuron fire when a signal threshold is exceeded? or is the threshold not yet exceeded? or are you waiting for us to be slowly brewed? Do you think that you will have a second life, a third ...?
"You're in my foregone conclusion! Act accordingly!"
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Our enemy is slowly pressing down on us
- don't write much
- don't say much
- don't think too much
Isn't it obvious ???
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@dcon said in NodeBB for older browsers:
@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
I would like to work on Windows 98
I did. No you don't. (There's a few of us ers around here that started on Windows back in the 3.x days - or before.)
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@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
Our enemy is slowly pressing down on us
- don't write much
- don't say much
- don't think too much
Isn't it obvious ???
yeah, well that's what you get for putting the criminalized remainder of your secret service in power. headityfuckededededed
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@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
@GOG said very, very, very important - I almost missed it - that culture is a weapon. So, our enemy hits just this place !!! He wants our culture to become small, simple - and then we will automatically become small and simple too! And what should we do? Read our poems or smash enemy broadcasts?
For my money, the best way to defend our culture is to stay involved in it.
One of the things I like about this site is that other people from my culture show me articles and videos that I'm interested in, but that the dominant culture would never have wanted me to see.
(These days, this mostly happens in restricted access categories like the Garage. Although I got some great book recommendations in Whatever We Are Calling The New Salon.)
Be aware of what's wrong with other cultures, and actively try to seek out people (both online and in real life) who are members of your culture.
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@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
his mummy is able to come to life.
I'm technically not alive.
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@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
Can you defend yourself with poetry and songs?
The Vogons did that pretty well...
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@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
Why are we not today killing people with disabilities, but killing users who are limited in their equipment?
You're right! We could do both, with a simple whirling-blades and stamping-pistons arrangement!
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@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
Why are we not today killing people with disabilities, but killing users who are limited in their equipment?
There are pills for that now.
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@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
@Carnage said in NodeBB for older browsers:
The moderators already keep the forum sufficiently ordered.
Is the forum a place for a quiet existence? I thought it was a place for a military camp of free people.
No, that's @Polygeekery, @Polygeekery, @Polygeekery, @Polygeekery, and sometimes @Polygeekery.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in NodeBB for older browsers:
The LAST thing we need is to hold a race somewhere with 1/3 the gravity of Earth.
Just equip them with Speed Racer's jump jacks.
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@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
It is difficult to quickly get answers to questions that are several thousand years old.
No it isn't. You ask someone several thousand years old.
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I never liked the idea of mining in bitcoin - if something like this happens in all progress, then it's sad, very sad for me ... I think that instead of meaningless tasks, we should find something useful.
This is me doing a preemptive maneuver - suddenly someone writes to me: look at bitcoin!
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in NodeBB for older browsers:
For my money, the best way to defend our culture is to stay involved in it.
Those. monasteries. Also an option. But can we still try to fight first?
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Let's first try not to let the new version of NodeBB here...
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@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
@GuyWhoKilledBear said in NodeBB for older browsers:
For my money, the best way to defend our culture is to stay involved in it.
Those. monasteries. Also an option. But can we still try to fight first?
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@tania_v said in NodeBB for older browsers:
Let's first try not to let the new version of NodeBB here...
I don't think you understand how things work around here.