Update on Administration & Community Changes
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@loopback0 said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
@MrL said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
Shouldn't MEGAtopics in the garage be called MAGAtopics?
Make Administration Great Again?
Again?
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@MrL said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
@apapadimoulis said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
your friend
Those are some strong words IMO. But maybe it's just English language weirdness.
It is. There's a reason why Facebook translated "friends" to "znajomi" and not "przyjaciele".
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@MrL said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
@apapadimoulis said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
your friend
Those are some strong words IMO. But maybe it's just English language weirdness.
遊びたい知り合いの人と馬鹿にするの大丈夫かもしれません。
それの方がいいですか。
a retard or horrible human being for months
, as long as they're playing along, is fair gamePlay along as in "continue to act retarded" or "gladly take the name calling"? I'm confused.
Ah, I see you're starting to understand! It's the difference between "you got really fat!" and "you got really fat!"
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@HardwareGeek said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
@boomzilla said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
@sockpuppet7 said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
@boomzilla I'm filling a bug your screenshot doesn't respect my custom CSS
I'll get right on that.
By that, I assume you're going to kneel on it?
No. NO! Next to it. I'll kneel next to it.
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@remi said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
Which applies in particular to all the "bite" threads and similar.
Bite me!
see @dfdub saying that the WTF bites thread is unreadable, while on the contrary I (and several others) are all for it
I agree. The whole point is that it is for one-off posts that don't deserve a thread of their own, but given the amount of out there, it gets a lot of posts. Maybe the "bite" threads should have popcorn buttons to start conversations about the posts in new topics — personally, I don't think so, but it's an idea.
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Bite threads are a good type of megathread because you can jump in at any page and you don't need context more than one page back. It essentially is acting as a category without the clutter. But yeah, maybe that's not clear to new people.
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@boomzilla said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
@HardwareGeek said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
@boomzilla said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
@sockpuppet7 said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
@boomzilla I'm filling a bug your screenshot doesn't respect my custom CSS
I'll get right on that.
By that, I assume you're going to kneel on it?
No. NO! Next to it. I'll kneel next to it.
Ah, I thought you were going to print it out and put it next to the back door so you can put your muddy shoes on it and protect the carpet. My apologies, it's an easy mistake to make.
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@loopback0 said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
@MrL said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
Shouldn't MEGAtopics in the garage be called MAGAtopics?
Make Administration Great Again?
Whoa! Let's not take things too far.
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@apapadimoulis said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
@DoctorJones that's some good feedback, thanks!
As @loopback0 mentioned, the icon/avatar is the most prominent thing about a topic, so I mentioend it b/c it seems like a very simple solution to differentiating topics from a UX perspective;
[Megatopic]
in the title also does that as well, as I'm sure any number of other things we could tryDoesn't the post count already identify them well enough as-is?
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@apapadimoulis said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
Honestly, there's a lot of potential here. I don't mean for us to grow into some mega-media property -- just the opposite. I think we can really turn this place into a more welcoming forum for other IT professionals, who like many of you, are looking for a fun place to casually interact outside of all the mega-media comments sections.
I'm more of a fan of localized groups that you volunteer into.
One app I really appreciate is Nextdoor, where you know everyone you see at least says they live near you. The locality of it gives a sense of community and a relief from the bombardment of access to knowing everything.
Having everything linked, like in SO or in Facebook groups, still gives that presence of all of the info. I miss the days of having to use an external entry to a community. Like the days of everything was it's own isolated board/forum/chat.
The difference seems arbitrary, but I can relate it to a real world scenario.
Distributed:
You walk into a mall, the entry and common areas have their own look and feel and every store is uniquely built. It feels like people are working together to create communities.Linked:
The new community projects, where the common areas, stores, all have to have the same appearance and are branded by a overall franchise. It feels like a corporation is trying to force communities.The thing is that they're both a 3rd party interacting with other brands. But one feels unique, and the other feels fabricated.
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@boomzilla said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
@dfdub I'm just here for the
slutsI am summoned, and so I appear.
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@xaade I don't think I'm catching everything your throwing, but I think I get the idea? This community grew completely organically (look how it started, from having to hack HTML in Community Server) and has always been "detached" from mega-media (i.e. it's not a subreddit or facebook group); I want that to continue, because that's been a major strength
Obviously things aren't perfect at the moment (some feel it's a bit of a "slump" now), but in either case what we're doing can improved, and that's what I'm here to help with; I'm a pretty good community organizer and have a pretty good idea of where to help. Honestly, it's not nearly as bad as I first thought.
@xaade said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
The new community projects, where the common areas, stores, all have to have the same appearance and are branded by a overall franchise. It feels like a corporation is trying to force communities.
I wonder if you mean like a Crocker Park? I call those "outdoor malls that people live at", but that's because the malls I've gone to are almost entirely the same corporate-owned stores (Forever 21, The Gap, Auntie Anns, Panda Express, etc.)
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There is also the competition with asocial media that every forum is affected by. Forums just don't have the pull they used to have, so there is very little new blood anywhere. That this place actually has a fairly stable and active population is pretty nice, a lot of places are more or less dead except for asking for help. I found my way to tdwtf way back sometime in the noughties by just being frustrated with some C++ and typing wtf into google, not sure how people'd find their way here these days.
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@apapadimoulis said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
I wonder if you mean like a Crocker Park? I call those "outdoor malls that people live at", but that's because the malls I've gone to are almost entirely the same corporate-owned stores (Forever 21, The Gap, Auntie Anns, Panda Express, etc.)
It's not the best comparison. I'll try one more time.
A physical comparison would be a strip mall vs a indoor mall. The strip mall there's a unique entry to every store, whereas the indoor mall there's one building.
The problem with the "indoor mall" is that you're always aware of having access to everything. That's the facebook and other mega media. It tends to create an environment where the focus is on broadcasting and reply counts, even when there are tools for private communities.
I miss the old "strip mall" days of the internet, where you approached each community individually. I feel like the communities were more about reading and writing. That's what we have here. What you say is "organically grown".
@apapadimoulis said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
community organizer
Har har....
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@Gąska said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
By which I mean, make it so you have to click through a special consent dialog full of trigger warnings and whatnot, so people who aren't ready won't join
This is an exceptionally bad idea. This will ensure that exactly these people will join, make screenshots and paste them all over Twitter.
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@sebastian-galczynski that's why I haven't registered with my real name. Besides, it's not like not having that warning prevents anyone from posting screenshots anyway. The only reason it hasn't happened yet is because the only person who had that idea is such a nerd that they have a Mastodon instance rather than a Twitter account, and nobody cares about what's posted on Mastodon.
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@Gąska said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
Besides, it's not like not having that warning prevents anyone from posting screenshots anyway.
Of course, but what I mean that this will very effectively attract them.
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@Gąska said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
I don't know what exactly you mean by "turn this place into a more welcoming forum for other IT professionals", but if we were really to "go big", we'd need to seriously curtail the garage part. By which I mean, make it so you have to click through a special consent dialog full of trigger warnings and whatnot, so people who aren't ready won't join - and on the other hand, have serious moderation effort to impose Twitter-like "civility" rules on the rest of the forum so every garage leak is dealt with within minutes.
Otherwise this place will be forever branded as alt-right cesspool (regardless of whether it's accurate or not).
Just make a special tier that allows one into garage. Give it to everyone active in garage, and lock it down afterwards. It won't even show up.
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@xaade said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
Just make a special tier that allows one into garage.
That's how it works now. The Garage is invisible unless you're in the Trolleybus Mechanic group.
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@loopback0 said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
@xaade said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
Just make a special tier that allows one into garage.
That's how it works now. The Garage is invisible unless you're in the Trolleybus Mechanic group.
Oh, ha!
Well then, no "sign up process"
We observe people for if they're a good fit, and then invite them to fight club.
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@xaade said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
We observe people for if they're a good fit, and then invite them to fight club.
"You seem like a terrible person. Welcome to the club."
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@loopback0 said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
@xaade said in Update on Administration & Community Changes:
We observe people for if they're a good fit, and then invite them to fight club.
"You seem like a terrible person. Welcome to the club."
I prefer the term highly opinionated asshole.