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  • @dcon Yes but the context of my post was HTML tags.

    But I often don't agree with control names. Radio button is another. It's usually rendered like circles on a ScanTron test. Looks and functions more like a checkbox than a button. That's why I call it a radiobox/radiomark. Yes I know it can be rendered as a button. So can a checkbox. Nobody calls that a check button.

    There are so many weird aspects of UI. Enough that I wrote my own library on top of WinForms to fix as many as I could. I don't think it's a stretch to figure out what I mean with slightly different names.


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    @Zenith said in Reading the clipboard with every keystroke:

    @dcon Yes but the context of my post was HTML tags.

    But I often don't agree with control names. Radio button is another. It's usually rendered like circles on a ScanTron test. Looks and functions more like a checkbox than a button. That's why I call it a radiobox/radiomark. Yes I know it can be rendered as a button. So can a checkbox. Nobody calls that a check button.

    There are so many weird aspects of UI. Enough that I wrote my own library on top of WinForms to fix as many as I could. I don't think it's a stretch to figure out what I mean with slightly different names.

    They were named after these:
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    A radio with a row of five pop-out buttons
    Radio buttons were named after the physical buttons used on older radios to select preset stations – when one of the buttons was pressed, other buttons would pop out, leaving the pressed button the only button in the "pushed in” position. [wikipedia Etymology section of “radio buttons”]


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    @M_Adams Thank you. I didn't want to say anything for fear of being told it was willful ignorance of the etymology of things, and that real radio buttons don't do that, and that nobody calls them that anyways and and and and....


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    @Zenith said in Reading the clipboard with every keystroke:

    But I often don't agree with control names.

    Which is antithetical to the very point of having names - to be able to communicate with others.



  • @M_Adams I actually have a radio like that. There's actually a metaphor more stuck in time than using a floppy disk to represent saving. 🍹

    @Gąska said in Reading the clipboard with every keystroke:

    @Zenith said in Reading the clipboard with every keystroke:

    But I often don't agree with control names.

    Which is antithetical to the very point of having names - to be able to communicate with others.

    That's also a great argument for America making English its official language :arrows:


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    @Zenith official language is a purely political issue. What matters is what language your tax forms are in, and it's already English.



  • @Gąska said in Reading the clipboard with every keystroke:

    @Zenith official language is a purely political issue. What matters is what language your tax forms are in, and it's already English.

    A few years ago in my state, a guy that owned a cheesesteak shop got roasted for putting up a sign that said "this is America: when ordering, speak English." Some illegal immigrant advocacy groups actually sent people to order in Spanish hoping to initiate lawsuits over it.

    Anyway, I don't take naming conventions that seriously. No matter what I call anything, a JavaScript framework with that name will pop up sooner or later.


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    @Zenith said in Reading the clipboard with every keystroke:

    Anyway, I don't take naming conventions that seriously.

    Me neither. But it's funny to see that a quarter century later, some people are still salty about tray.


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    @M_Adams said in Reading the clipboard with every keystroke:

    @Zenith said in Reading the clipboard with every keystroke:

    @dcon Yes but the context of my post was HTML tags.

    But I often don't agree with control names. Radio button is another. It's usually rendered like circles on a ScanTron test. Looks and functions more like a checkbox than a button. That's why I call it a radiobox/radiomark. Yes I know it can be rendered as a button. So can a checkbox. Nobody calls that a check button.

    There are so many weird aspects of UI. Enough that I wrote my own library on top of WinForms to fix as many as I could. I don't think it's a stretch to figure out what I mean with slightly different names.

    They were named after these:
    424dd1f8-7c92-475b-bce5-d8ac19ed3a96-image.jpeg
    A radio with a row of five pop-out buttons
    Radio buttons were named after the physical buttons used on older radios to select preset stations – when one of the buttons was pressed, other buttons would pop out, leaving the pressed button the only button in the "pushed in” position. [wikipedia Etymology section of “radio buttons”]

    I think he understood that. It's not the "radio" part he was addressing but the "button" part. As normally rendered, they don't look or act like buttons. When selected, the inside of the circle fills in (more or less...you get what I mean). So his words mix the old car radio functionality with the reality of how they're rendered.


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