Nobody shares knowledge better than this

SpectateSwamp

1000's of SSDS's

Because it is an entirely different OS, running on entirely different hardware with entirely different needs and features. Plus how on earth would SSRR work on a modern touch screen device, it is currently tied into a whole bunch of obscure command strings which would make it a pain to use. More of a pain to use is really the phrase however.

SSDS is simple and powerfull. Have a SSDS (play random video) then a 2nd SSDS to (see my last page of notes) and another for (show friends list). No prompts would be required making it far less awkward and extremely quick.

derula

@SpectateSwamp said:

SSDS is simple and powerfull. Have a SSDS (play random video) then a 2nd SSDS to (see my last page of notes) and another for (show friends list). No prompts would be required making it far less awkward and extremely quick.

I'd rather have a WMP play random video then a tail to see my last page of notes and a WLM for show friends list. Or, even better, play ordered video in SMPlayer (or MPC on Windows), keep my notes in my head or on slips of paper (because they're far more "portable"), and use Kopete for instant messaging (or, Miranda IM on Windows. Actually, Miranda IM is the only thing I miss about Windows).

spenk

@SpectateSwamp said:

SSDS is simple and powerfull.

SSRR is confusing and complex, the only person who even vaguely understands it's interface is you. How the rest of us are supposed to just figure out commands like merge (no sane defaults for that one either), .tt, ww or whatever else it takes and at which prompt they need to be typed is beyond me.

In terms of power it is nearly matched by notepad, i.e. both can search a single text file!

@SpectateSwamp said:

Have a SSDS (play random video)

Or I could just use WMP, 'cos it can do that sort of thing you see.

@SpectateSwamp said:

then a 2nd SSDS to (see my last page of notes)

Or I could just openthe text file I keep my notes in, although I am starting to play with OneNote - that also allows me to keep notes.

@SpectateSwamp said:

another for (show friends list)

Do you mean to show a list of friends or a list of things to show to friends? I have no reason to just display a list of friends / contacts because these are things my IM, mail etc. clients can already do.

@SpectateSwamp said:

No prompts would be required making it far less awkward and extremely quick.

Every single time I have attempted to use SSRR it has been nothing but prompt after prompt with no indication of what should be entered (if anything) at any of them. Have you somehow made all these prompts go away then?

SpectateSwamp

100's of Millions of PC's - One Flash Drive and SSDS

@derula said:

@SpectateSwamp said:
SSDS is simple and powerfull. Have a SSDS (play random video) then a 2nd SSDS to (see my last page of notes) and another for (show friends list). No prompts would be required making it far less awkward and extremely quick.
I'd rather have a WMP play random video then a tail to see my last page of notes and a WLM for show friends list. Or, even better, play ordered video in SMPlayer (or MPC on Windows), keep my notes in my head or on slips of paper (because they're far more "portable"), and use Kopete for instant messaging (or, Miranda IM on Windows. Actually, Miranda IM is the only thing I miss about Windows).

DerulaSwamp DerulaSwamp DerulaSwamp. You had better break down and dumpster dive for windows. What about a SSDS for grocery list. One small Icon on the screen for each of your special info files. Being that it runs from a Flash Drive you have the exact list at home or on a friends computer or any PC on the planet. A more portable application I never knew.

SpectateSwamp

Get Power with SSDS - Info == Knowledge == Power

@spenk said:

@SpectateSwamp said:
No prompts would be required making it far less awkward and extremely quick.
Every single time I have attempted to use SSRR it has been nothing but prompt after prompt with no indication of what should be entered (if anything) at any of them. Have you somehow made all these prompts go away then?

For you SpenkSwamp I'll build a template for each of the important daily uses. There might be 8 or 10 that I use. In each version of SSDS I'll include a readme.txt file that explains the control file settings and the corresponding prompts that it pre-determines. So you don't have to enter anything. That way it will be easier for you and others to GET SSDS.

derula

@SpectateSwamp said:

You had better break down and dumpster dive for windows.

dives

@SpectateSwamp said:

What about a SSDS for grocery list.

That wouldn't make any sense UNLESS your grocery store has free Windows PCs standing around for general usage, and even then it would be much less helpful than a sodding slip of paper.

@SpectateSwamp said:

One small Icon on the screen for each of your special info files.

I call that a "file system", graphically represented in tools like "Explorer", "Dolphin" or "Nautilus".

@SpectateSwamp said:

Being that it runs from a Flash Drive you have the exact list at home or on a friends computer or any PC on the planet.

Except PCs that don't run on Windows XP. And I can have the exact same feature via regular file systems, working cross-platform and without any Random Random™ UI.

@SpectateSwamp said:

A more portable application I never knew.

That's because you never knew any other application than SSRR, or what "portable" actually means.

spenk

@SpectateSwamp said:

For you SpenkSwamp I'll build a template for each of the important daily uses. There might be 8 or 10 that I use. In each version of SSDS I'll include a readme.txt file that explains the control file settings and the corresponding prompts that it pre-determines. So you don't have to enter anything. That way it will be easier for you and others to GET SSDS.

So I need to have 8 or 10 separate copies of SSRR just to provide less functionality than the phone already has? Why not provide an easy to use UI rather than the mess that is control.txt and 10 corresponding readme files?

derula

@spenk said:

Why not provide an easy to use UI rather than the mess that is control.txt and 10 corresponding readme files?

SpenkSwamp, oh SpenkSwamp. You don't get it, do you? If you have the correct control.txt. You don't need an UI. Just hit Enter Enter Enter and it will work perfect. No fancy GUI needed. How great is THAT? Gee, I love this program.

WeatherGod

@SpectateSwamp said:

Get Power with SSDS - Info == Knowledge == Power

Funny, I don't think that taking the info out of SSDS ("SSDS - Info") is equivalent to Knowledge or Power.

spenk

@derula said:

@spenk said:
Why not provide an easy to use UI rather than the mess that is control.txt and 10 corresponding readme files?

SpenkSwamp, oh SpenkSwamp. You don't get it, do you? If you have the correct control.txt. You don't need an UI. Just hit Enter Enter Enter and it will work perfect. No fancy GUI needed. How great is THAT? Gee, I love this program.

Is this on a touch screen phone with no physical enter key then?

Yukabacera

@spenk said:

@derula said:
@spenk said:
Why not provide an easy to use UI rather than the mess that is control.txt and 10 corresponding readme files?

SpenkSwamp, oh SpenkSwamp. You don't get it, do you? If you have the correct control.txt. You don't need an UI. Just hit Enter Enter Enter and it will work perfect. No fancy GUI needed. How great is THAT? Gee, I love this program.
Is this on a touch screen phone with no physical enter key then?

Of course, you'll first have to pry a physical enter key out of an old keyboard (preferrably rescued from a landfill) and glue it to the front of your phone first. As an added bonus, this will render the sad, previously nonswampy parts of your phone at least as convenient to use and as functional as SSDS itself!

SpectateSwamp

Screen capture the Lists - with SSDS

@Yukabacera said:

@spenk said:
@derula said:
@spenk said:
Why not provide an easy to use UI rather than the mess that is control.txt and 10 corresponding readme files?
SpenkSwamp, oh SpenkSwamp. You don't get it, do you? If you have the correct control.txt. You don't need an UI. Just hit Enter Enter Enter and it will work perfect. No fancy GUI needed. How great is THAT? Gee, I love this program.
Is this on a touch screen phone with no physical enter key then?

Of course, you'll first have to pry a physical enter key out of an old keyboard (preferrably rescued from a landfill) and glue it to the front of your phone first. As an added bonus, this will render the sad, previously nonswampy parts of your phone at least as convenient to use and as functional as SSDS itself!

Or it could be just .JPG screen captures saved to a target folder. Then use those 8 or 10 lists as reference info on your Iphone, Android, Blackberry or WP7.

How hard could it be to have SSDS create a Jpg file through paint? Shouldn't be that tuff. Then I'll have one main SSDS controling the background versions which creates a new info page each. Or maybe they can just do those screencapture steps manually for now? These "new phones" can view pic files in a directory can't they?

derula

@SpectateSwamp said:

Or it could be just .JPG screen captures saved to a target folder. Then use those 8 or 10 lists as reference info on your Iphone, Android, Blackberry or WP7.

That doesn't even have a remote relevance to what you quoted. Or to anything else I can think of.

@SpectateSwamp said:

How hard could it be to have SSDS create a Jpg file through paint?

... a lot harder than to have it create a JPG without using Paint, I guess. And that's assuming by Paint you mean Microsoft Paint, not actual paint.

@SpectateSwamp said:

Shouldn't be that tuff.

That's not even a word.

@SpectateSwamp said:

Then I'll have one main SSDS controling the background versions which creates a new info page each.

If by background process you mean a minimized SSRR window and MS Paint Windows keeping to pop up for fragments of seconds, then yes.

@SpectateSwamp said:

Or maybe they can just do those screencapture steps manually for now? These "new phones" can view pic files in a directory can't they?

... okay I didn't actually think about what the hell you're talking about until now. What on earth are you planning?

spenk

@SpectateSwamp said:

Or it could be just .JPG screen captures saved to a target folder. Then use those 8 or 10 lists as reference info on your Iphone, Android, Blackberry or WP7.

How hard could it be to have SSDS create a Jpg file through paint? Shouldn't be that tuff. Then I'll have one main SSDS controling the background versions which creates a new info page each. Or maybe they can just do those screencapture steps manually for now? These "new phones" can view pic files in a directory can't they?

For an individual who pretty much believes plain text is the only format ever needed you do choose to not use it when it would makes sense. A simple text todo list or diary entry would be searchable whereas your jpeg idea would leave all this information in a non-searchable format.

Why would I need to run multiple SSRR instances on my phone (which won't happen anyway given the fact is a VB5 app) when I can currently just use google calendar for appointments, task lists etc and they just sync with my phone automatically. This way I have a brief summary of any diary entries for the next few days on my phone's home screen while the phone also acts as a reminder alarm.

derula

@spenk said:

@SpectateSwamp said:
Or it could be just .JPG screen captures saved to a target folder. Then use those 8 or 10 lists as reference info on your Iphone, Android, Blackberry or WP7.

How hard could it be to have SSDS create a Jpg file through paint? Shouldn't be that tuff. Then I'll have one main SSDS controling the background versions which creates a new info page each. Or maybe they can just do those screencapture steps manually for now? These "new phones" can view pic files in a directory can't they?
For an individual who pretty much believes plain text is the only format ever needed you do choose to not use it when it would makes sense. A simple text todo list or diary entry would be searchable whereas your jpeg idea would leave all this information in a non-searchable format.
Why would I need to run multiple SSRR instances on my phone (which won't happen anyway given the fact is a VB5 app) when I can currently just use google calendar for appointments, task lists etc and they just sync with my phone automatically. This way I have a brief summary of any diary entries for the next few days on my phone's home screen while the phone also acts as a reminder alarm.

Reminder alarm yippy yappy nobody needs this. You just don't want to admit SSRR is superior. Can your phone create JPG with paint? No. But SSRR will. Oh god I love this feature. It's hated by the techie, but perfect for the normal people. Just like SSRR. God I'm so brillant.

Balthazaar

@spenk said:

... while the phone also acts as a reminder alarm.

But, with SSRR, you can have random alarms alarming all day long!

spenk

@Balthazaar said:

@spenk said:
... while the phone also acts as a reminder alarm.
But, with SSRR, you can have random alarms alarming all day long!

Probably at random times for random events or random times before random events for random lengths of random time.

WeatherGod

@spenk said:

@Balthazaar said:
@spenk said:
... while the phone also acts as a reminder alarm.
But, with SSRR, you can have random alarms alarming all day long!
Probably at random times for random events or random times before random events for random lengths of random time.

So, that would be "random, random, random, random, random, random"?

dhromed

Major Major Major Major

The_Quiet_One

I can't believe in two weeks this thread will be a year old. And looking back, Spectate has been yapping away about SSDS for almost four years. Spectate, I'll give you this: You don't give up. You are one damn persistant fool.

spenk

@RHuckster said:

I can't believe in two weeks this thread will be a year old. And looking back, Spectate has been yapping away about SSDS for almost four years. Spectate, I'll give you this: You don't give up. You are one damn persistant fool.

What does that make us poor souls who keep posting here? In my own case I have even installed and attempted to use the sodding thing as well, this is not a proud moment in my life really.

serguey123

@spenk said:

What does that make us poor souls who keep posting here? In my own case I have even installed and attempted to use the sodding thing as well, this is not a proud moment in my life really.

Fools with too much time on your hands. Anyways some posts here are hilarious and one does get curious about such infamous program and sourcecode after some time

da_Doctah

@dhromed said:

Major Major Major Major

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derula

@da Doctah said:

Filed under: That is actually a complete grammatical sentence.

Grammatical, and also nonsensical.

da_Doctah

@derula said:

@da Doctah said:
Filed under: That is actually a complete grammatical sentence.

Grammatical, and also nonsensical.

It's not nonsensical, just a bit tautological. Adding a bit of verbosity, it says that "Certain bison from a city in upstate New York, those that confuse other bison from the same city, are able to cause confusion in bison from that city who in turn confuse other bison from there".

Medezark

Re: Just Start Over

Seriously,

Re-write from scratch. Leverage the built in windows search features for searching desktop files. Use VB 2010 Express. Use LINQ. I am certain that re-developing in this manner will result in a more stable and useful code-base.

Xyro

Hey guys, what's new?

serguey123

@Xyro said:

Hey guys, what's new?

Nothing, this thread is still alive, SpectateSwamp is still insane and blakeyrat still hates Lotus Notes

Xyro

@serguey123 said:

@Xyro said:
Hey guys, what's new?
Nothing, this thread is still alive, SpectateSwamp is still insane and blakeyrat still hates Lotus Notes

Awesome! Just the way I like it!

So tell me, serguey123, do you have any hope whatsoever regarding the new state government we're about to vote in? I mean, I'm sure they won't do away with those automatic pay raises, mafia-controlled ~~gambling~~ social program fundraisers, the staggeringly massive size of the legislature, or the hilariously overwhelming debt situation, but at least we might have a different party to blame!

Oh, yeah, and Spectate, does SSRR automatically merge files for me yet, or do I still have to manually inform it that I've changed files outside its index?

serguey123

@Xyro said:

So tell me, serguey123, do you have any hope whatsoever regarding the new state government we're about to vote in? I mean, I'm sure they won't do away with those automatic pay raises, mafia-controlled ~~gambling~~ social program fundraisers, the staggeringly massive size of the legislature, or the hilariously overwhelming debt situation, but at least we might have a different party to blame!

WTF?, we had a government?, last time I checked we where owned by corporatives overlords that runned some sort of popularity contest every now and then to keep the masses stupid and entertained.

@Xyro said:

...does SSRR automatically merge files for me yet, or do I still have to manually inform it that I've changed files outside its index?

No, but it will magically run on win7 phone so all is good.

derula

So... getting rid of the Russians didn't help you either?

Xyro

@derula said:

So... getting rid of the Russians didn't help you either?

If anything, it only goes to show our need for SSRR.

Plop the greatest software in existence ever in the whole entire universe boondoggle onto the mob boss's / special interest group's / politician's computer and watch the confusion reign down as we devolve into an anarchy of farmers.

serguey123

@Xyro said:

If anything, it only goes to show our need for SSRR.

Plop the greatest software in existence ever in the whole entire universe boondoggle onto the mob boss's / special interest group's / politician's computer and watch the confusion reign down as we devolve into an anarchy of farmers.

So that is why the baddies in the movies always loose, they installed SSRR in their computers so a countdown/doomsday program/ability to think and plan properly/dialog is hindered. Who would have thought?

Medezark

@serguey123 said:

WTF?, we had a government?, last time I checked we where owned by corporatives overlords that runned some sort of popularity contest every now and then to keep the masses stupid and entertained.

You live in the U.S.A?

derula

I like trains.

serguey123

@Medezark said:

@serguey123 said:
WTF?, we had a government?, last time I checked we where owned by corporatives overlords that runned some sort of popularity contest every now and then to keep the masses stupid and entertained.

You live in the U.S.A?

I'm pretty sure this happens in every country where elections are held, in totalitarians nations the people don't need to be entertained.

Also no, I don't, check my location, we are more than a nation, we are a state of mind.

SpectateSwamp

Non-Random is OK

I've done 2 B-day party videos this month. And a couple before that. Pretty much an expert at it now. It's quick and easy and I burn em 2 DVD copies. One set to run with "Random" and the 2nd to run "Non-Random". When first viewing the videos people pretty well want the original sequence to play. After that; they are into Random like the rest of us.

Slowly but surely this group is getting to know about Video and Random. Video makes sharing real. Our politicians should be videoed. Within 4 hours have total digital video mastery. No app does video like this. SSDS Video is the "killer of killer apps" from here on out.

dhromed

I stopped caring many pages ago.

The_Quiet_One

@SpectateSwamp said:

When first viewing the videos people pretty well want the original sequence to play.

I'm surprised you refused to entertain their wishes and didn't say, "NO, THE VIDEOS WILL BE IN RANDOM-RANDOM. NOW SIT DOWN AND BE QUIET"

@SpectateSwamp said:

After that; they are into Random like the rest of us.

Were they laughing? If so, they were laughing at you, and not "enjoying" the Random.

@SpectateSwamp said:

Our politicians should be videoed.

Um... and they are. Oh, you mean even when they're on the toilet? Pervert.

Xyro

Spectate, why do you suppose Random Random random is so attractive to human beings? Do you suppose it's just like of a law of Nature, or more culturally bound? It's a curious aspect, as everyone truely loves the Random random, even when random non-Random is okay too sometimes. I wouldn't go as far as saying that it's universally beloved, because who knows what those crazy Micronesians think, but it does appear to affect us all.

What are your thoughts on the nature of Random?

Medezark

@Xyro said:

Spectate, why do you suppose Random Random random is so attractive to human beings? Do you suppose it's just like of a law of Nature, or more culturally bound? It's a curious aspect, as everyone truely loves the Random random, even when random non-Random is okay too sometimes. I wouldn't go as far as saying that it's universally beloved, because who knows what those crazy Micronesians think, but it does appear to affect us all.
What are your thoughts on the nature of Random?

Perhaps a method of applying a fractal algorithm instead of pure random random random, such that the pseudo random actually is representative of a fractal system. Maybe varying the fractal algorithm so that one instance might bear temporo-spatial relationship to a leaf's vein structure, or the flow of a river or something. Now THAT would be spectacular. Relatively useless, but at least there would be deeper, hidden meaning within the random random random results. Maybe the hidden meanings of life could thus be revealed by Golf.

The_Quiet_One

@Medezark said:

Perhaps a method of applying a fractal algorithm instead of pure random random random, such that the pseudo random actually is representative of a fractal system. Maybe varying the fractal algorithm so that one instance might bear temporo-spatial relationship to a leaf's vein structure, or the flow of a river or something. Now THAT would be spectacular. Relatively useless, but at least there would be deeper, hidden meaning within the random random random results. Maybe the hidden meanings of life could thus be revealed by Golf.

You make an interesting point. Although his random-random features in SSDS might *look* useless, artless, or otherwise only found amazing by a madman, we might just not be looking hard enough at these videos.

Even his tobacco leaf flyer video might have some deep meaning, even if it's not aliens. Afterall, the way the wind sweeps the leaf is somewhat chaotic and random-- so much so that the stupidest man on earth sees it as proof of aliens-- it at least displays just how random nature is, and how complex wind is. Although we may know how clouds, wind, and leaf-veins form, I don't think we'll ever reach the point where we can adequettely model the systems that create these phenomena to the point where we can, say, predict the exact shape clouds will be 5 days from now to the exact second. At least not in this lifetime. And SpectateSwamp's videos, as boring as it seems, demonstrates that in a deep, almost poetic way. At least if you take out his mumbling voiceover monologue. How are we to say SpectateSwamp's videos are any more boring than the photos of nebulae and other astronomical objects the Hubble Telescope have taken in the last 20+ years? Because we encounter clouds in everyday life? Aren't clouds, albeit smaller, just as complex and spectacular as the nebulae in deep space, if not more? Nebulae, afterall, consist of mainly Hydrogen and Helium, whereas clouds consist of water, pollutants, and sometimes even carbon-rich smoke. In many ways, clouds are therefore even more spectacular than anything else. Plus, the only reason nebulae look spectacular is because NASA just adds false colors to the photos to make them *look* awesome.

Spectate, I take back everything I've said in the past. You are a fucking genius. I just never realized it until now, although I still disagree that you're shooting aliens.

Medezark

Aliens? Wait .... what?

The_Quiet_One

@Medezark said:

Aliens? Wait .... what?

You might have discovered SpectateSwamp after his posts regarding alien videos. http://www.thestupidestmanonearth.com/Aliens.aspx

Xyro

@Medezark said:

Aliens? Wait .... what?

Spectate, I beseech thee to upload another video of clouds and a bird* onto archive.org. It's a windy time of year, so I imagine you should have good luck finding what you're looking for.

By the way, I forget if this was ever made clear... Have aliens ever contacted you personally? Or do you just consider yourself an alien hunter? Do you suppose they may be after your medicine stones? I reckon the aliens would be interested in such KnowledgeHoards.

SpectateSwamp

Video knowledge trumps Book knowledge

@Xyro said:

Spectate, I beseech thee to upload another video of clouds and a bird* onto archive.org. It's a windy time of year, so I imagine you should have good luck finding what you're looking for.

I looked at hundreds maybe even thousands of cloud videos to come up with the few vids at archive.org. I saw a lot of flies & birds and other extremely fast moving objects. They had to be special to get uploaded. If anybody took the time to download the originals and check them. You'd see. The cloaked biggie along with the cluster of fast flying objects (one approaches the cloaked flyer) Then there is the tobacco leaf flyer. Rules about leafs. Wet leafs don't fly and dry leafs don't bend. The tobacco leaf flyer does both!! The clip where the sparrow got spooked is top notch too. What do you call it when there is contact between a UFO and a Bird and it is caught on video. Hard contact of the 3rd 1/2 kind? The most recent one was the distant object following a cloud line. (estimated speed 250+ mph)

demo76-pict13 : spectateswamp : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Cloaked flyer and many FTS objects

demo85-pict7 : SpectateSwamp : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Tobacco leaf flyer

demo13_pict7 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Spooked sparrow

Drone-or-UFO-18Jul2010 : SpectateSwamp : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

250+mph flyer!

I'm going to do some UFO Hunting tomorrow. Don't leave this thread.

@Xyro said:

By the way, I forget if this was ever made clear... Have aliens ever contacted you personally? Or do you just consider yourself an alien hunter? Do you suppose they may be after your medicine stones? I reckon the aliens would be interested in such KnowledgeHoards.

If hanging around and hamming it up for the camcorder is contact; then they have made themselves known. I'm sure they know I am videoing / hunting them. As for the Medicine Stones they would be scared shit-less of these power objects. Or just maybe they are searching for the best video player / Search engine in the Universe SSDS.

The_Quiet_One

@SpectateSwamp said:

Or just maybe they are searching for the best video player / Search engine in the Universe SSDS.

rofl, now you're just joshing us.

Medezark

Ok, looked at ONE of the videos. You should probably provide the reference start - stop time stamps for the relevant frames.

SpectateSwamp

Busting some non IFO moves - Caught with SSDS

@Medezark said:

Ok, looked at ONE of the videos. You should probably provide the reference start - stop time stamps for the relevant frames.

Thankyou thankyou for looking.

Tobacco leaf flyer demo85-pict7.mpg

0:32.29 thru 0:33.08 seconds (left side of screen 2/3 way up)

0:52.00 thru 0:52.04 seconds the biggie

52:26 thru 53.01 from the lower right up to the cloud.

0:57.01 thru 0:57.05 seconds right at bottom of cloud poking out

1:00.07 thru 1:01.07 seconds lower right hand

1:56.29 thru 1:57.08 seconds lower left side

2:32.21 thru 2:33.15 seconds right side 1/3 way up

2:59.21 thru 2:59.28 seconds lower left corner very faint

3:22.04 thru 3:22.09 seconds lower right side

There are 1 or 2 more that I don't have listed

This object makes moves that I haven't seen before. A lot of zig zaggies.

I'm about halfway through the video from yesterday. There was some interesting segments. A FTS object and a bird in the same clip.

Medezark

Thanks for the quick time-references. I will re-look when I get home. Beware -- I have a critical eye. My responses will be polite, but if something looks like a digital zoom artifact I wont be able to accept it as evidence. But I will be open minded.