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The computer whiz programmed his computer
What a stupid example. You can't tell which spelling it's meant to illustrate.TIL about "programed" spelling.
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@admiral_p said in Gimp 2.7.2 Splash Screen:
Even chippies are hard to find these days.
If you go to the right (er, wrong?) part of town, you'll find plenty of chippies.
This word seriously confused the late Mrs Cynic when we first moved to the UK. Being natively a Brit myself, I had no problem with understanding the point, but she, a native Texan, had a serious moment on reading an article somewhere about the Royal Mail's historical ability to correctly deliver letters with aggressively inadequate address information, in this case something like this:
The house across from the chippie
Somesmalltown
SomecountyHer comment was, "How would the Post Office people even know?", since "chippie" or "chippy" in parts of the US refers to a woman of ... (monetised) inadequate virtue ... if y'all catch my drift.
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@Zecc said in Gimp 2.7.2 Splash Screen:
The computer whiz programmed his computer
What a stupid example. You can't tell which spelling it's meant to illustrate.TIL about "programed" spelling.
I so want to think of that as the past tense of "to programe".
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Gimp 2.7.2 Splash Screen:
@Zecc said in Gimp 2.7.2 Splash Screen:
The computer whiz programmed his computer
What a stupid example. You can't tell which spelling it's meant to illustrate.TIL about "programed" spelling.
I so want to think of that as the past tense of "to programe".
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@Gąska I am sure I have read "programme" used for code.
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@admiral_p said in Gimp 2.7.2 Splash Screen:
@Gąska I am sure I have read "programme" used for code.
In your own posts?
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@MrL no.
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@admiral_p said in Gimp 2.7.2 Splash Screen:
@Gąska I am sure I have read "programme" used for code.
Internet is full of people who can't write.
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@Gąska very well, anyway, I stand corrected. Even though it makes little sense (why use two different spellings for the same word?).
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@admiral_p said in Gimp 2.7.2 Splash Screen:
Even though it makes little sense (why use two different spellings for the same word?).
Have you met the English language?
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@Zecc you usually have different spellings across different English varieties, but not within the same variety.
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@admiral_p within the same variety, "program" and "programme" are entirely different words. Different spelling, different meaning, used in different contexts. They're no more "the same word" than "lid" is the same as "lead".
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@Gąska not really. Why is a program called a program? Because they are a sequence of programmed actions. The spelling is just different because, I bet, the Brits use the same spelling as the Americans for consistency.
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@admiral_p said in Gimp 2.7.2 Splash Screen:
@Zecc you usually have different spellings across different English varieties, but not within the same variety.
I was referring more to the "making sense" part of the equation.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Gimp 2.7.2 Splash Screen:
Her comment was, "How would the Post Office people even know?", since "chippie" or "chippy" in parts of the US refers to a woman of ... (monetised) inadequate virtue ... if y'all catch my drift.
It's all those “special deliveries”…
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@admiral_p said in Gimp 2.7.2 Splash Screen:
the Brits use the same spelling as the Americans for consistency.
Consistency? In English spelling? That seems ... unlikely.
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@HardwareGeek said in Gimp 2.7.2 Splash Screen:
@admiral_p said in Gimp 2.7.2 Splash Screen:
the Brits use the same spelling as the Americans for consistency.
Consistency? In English spelling? That seems ... unlikely.
It's not as rare as you think. The problem is that English has way more patterns of spelling consistency than most languages, frequently distinguished by the historical origins of the words. Within each group, the spelling is reasonably consistent, but overall, there is an appearance of inconsistency because of the large numbers of groups.
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@HardwareGeek said in Gimp 2.7.2 Splash Screen:
Consistency? In English spelling? That seems ... unlikely.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Gimp 2.7.2 Splash Screen:
The problem is that English has way more patterns of spelling consistency
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@Gąska said in Gimp 2.7.2 Splash Screen:
It has if it wants to be used by professionals. At the very least, it has to be SFW.
IF
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Yeah. Professional usage doesn't seem to be a primary concern for lots of open-source projects.
On the other hand, some bosses may not care so much about the "unprofessional" name once you tell them it costs $0, instead of $$$.
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@Zerosquare unless they're on "last year's spendings + 10%" budget plan.
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@dcon said in Gimp 2.7.2 Splash Screen:
@HardwareGeek said in Gimp 2.7.2 Splash Screen:
Consistency? In English spelling? That seems ... unlikely.
The "full" text of the "rule" de-exceptionalises some of those words:
- I before E except after C whenever it sounds like "EE".
So by that analysis, "foreign" ("forr-in"), "neighbor" (or "neighbour") (normally "nay-bore"), "receives" (after C) "eight" ("ate"), "counterfeit" ("cown ter fit"), "beige" ("bay*" where the * represents a "soft j" sound not common elsewhere in English), "sleighs" ("slays"), "feisty" ("f-eye-stee"), and "weightlifters" ("waitlifters") are not exceptions.
But the condition is narrow enough that the rule is much less useful than it appears, since it doesn't predict how to spell "friend" ("frend"), "receive" (doesn't say what to do if it is after a C), or "foreign" (doesn't say what to do if the sound isn't "EE"), but it also doesn't predict internationally consistent spelling of "leisure". (In Britain, that's not an exception, but in the US, it is.)