Mattress Suggestions?
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My mattress is, well, pining for the fjords. Soon it will be an ex-mattress. Since sleeping on the floor is not really an acceptable option, I'll need to get a new mattress soon.
Criteria--
- Price under $1k
- Durable, even under heavier people.
- Suitable for a side/back sleeper.
- Queen sized (60" x 80", or 152 cm x 203 cm for you wrong-pondians)
- Cool--I live in Florida and it gets stupid hot here. Combine that with the extra insulation I'm carrying and the fact that I prefer to sleep cold, and, well...
Anyone have any recommendations? Any strong dis-recommendations? Any recommendations on what to look for or how to effectively shop for one?
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I have been happy with my temper-pedic knockoff from my local mattress store.
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@dragoon To be precise, that's a memory foam mattress, right? What foundation (box-spring, etc) do you have?
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Yeah, it is a memory foam mattress. The foundation is just a simple box I don't go for any of the fancy stuff.
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Way too personal to be relevant. Just head to some mattress stores and try them out.
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@jazzyjosh said in Mattress Suggestions?:
Just head to some mattress stores and try them out.
Spend the night there, you'll see in what shape you wake up
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I love my memory foam mattress, it's a 4 layer one with harder core and then softer outer layers. It has a CoolMax cover. Base is springy wood slats but to be honest I think it's so solid you would never notice what the heck it was resting on.
Slept on a friend's one recently and it just absorbed you and was then like an oven. So the layered hardness ones seem like a very good idea or maybe just don't get one that's too soft!
I'd buy another memory foam mattress in a heartbeat. Think it was about 400 GBP delivered.
Edit: Only downside is that the bugger must weigh about 60kg. It's a two man lift when you have to move it and a bit annoying when changing the sheet.
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I have what I consider to be the most comfortable (twin) bed in the world, surpassing things like hotels. And I also have no idea what it's called since it was bought for me. I'm currently inquiring in case it'll help you.
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@pie_flavor thanks. Although I've always found hotel beds to be horrible, but then I don't visit fancy hotels much.
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I sleep on the floor most nights on a rug.
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Just go to a decent store and talk to the salesman. They'll have recommendations based on your body weight and stuff.
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If you are a real champion have sex in the shop, on each mattress.
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@benjamin-hall we bought our mattresses at a store called AtHome. They have locations in Florida. We spent ~$550 for a king size mattress and are very happy with the purchase. It is a memory foam mattress and firm enough for my tastes and I like a firm mattress due to prior back issues.
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@polygeekery WAT? You spent $550 on one. WTF
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@lucas1 Shirley you don't think that is a large amount?
You can spend virtually as much as you want on mattresses. $550 is cheap for a king size mattress.
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@polygeekery I spend £400 matress + bed and I thought that was too much. Queen Size bed btw.
I don't sleep in it. As I said I like sleeping on the floor.
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@lucas1 One must wonder if you are actually a caveman that found a time machine. It would fit a lot of other things.
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@lucas1 Just to clarify I was dirt poor once, I don't spent money on bedding unless I have to.
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@lucas1 most good mattresses start at $500. And Kings tend to be significantly more expensive than queens (discrimination!). Latex or memory foam tends also to run more than coil-spring (the old style) at any given quality level.
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@benjamin-hall Bollox they do. I have a perfectly fine mattress for less. Not too hard, not to soft. It is fine.
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@lucas1 remember 400 quid is about 550 USD, so no you don't.
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@benjamin-hall I paid for Matress and the bed for less than £400
The mattress was the cheap part.
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@benjamin-hall I don't think you're going to be able to get away from just going to a mattress store or two and trying them all. The mattress my mom found comfortable could not have been less comfortable for me and vice versa. I don't see mattresses as something you can buy online sight unseen, if that's the idea here.
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@blakeyrat It is almost as if, it is whether you like it rather than anything else.
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@lucas1 said in Mattress Suggestions?:
@polygeekery I spend £400 matress + bed and I thought that was too much. Queen Size bed btw.
I don't sleep in it. As I said I like sleeping on the floor.
King size mattresses are expensive... you can get almost the same exact size for significantly cheaper by buying two twin size mattresses and laying them side by side.
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@anotherusername why buy them then, I can fit my fat ass and my skinny GF on a double mattress fine and a queen size is loads of room for us.
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@blakeyrat Thing is, I'm not sure what I'm looking for when I actually go. I've been told that just laying on them is a bad way to tell what will be comfortable, especially after they wear a bit. I'm looking mostly for brand recommendations or anti-recommendations as well as styles that people have liked/disliked. I plan to actually go looking in person. Lots of people buy theirs online these days ("bed in a box" is the term I've heard).
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@benjamin-hall lay on a rug and use a sleeping bag. Better than most beds IMHO.
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@lucas1 said in Mattress Suggestions?:
@benjamin-hall lay on a rug and use a sleeping bag. Better than most beds IMHO.
As I said in the OP, no, not for me. Especially since I'm allergic to dust mites, and carpets inevitably have a significant concentration of such things, while bed linen is much more washable.
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@benjamin-hall Not to be a dick, but I don't think I am some sort of super human. But I just deal with it. When I was in Uni I got used to sleeping anywhere (lots of drink and drugs helped) but it just be warm and lie down.
I dunno why people spend so fucking much on some springs with some fluff in middle.
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@lucas1 said in Mattress Suggestions?:
@benjamin-hall Not to be a dick, but I don't think I am some sort of super human. But I just deal with it. When I was in Uni I got used to sleeping anywhere (lots of drink and drugs helped) but it just be warm and lie down.
I dunno why people spend so fucking much on some springs with some fluff in middle.
Shock...people value different things. I value breathing. I can sleep in a sleeping bag, but I prefer not to. In part because I move a lot at night and run warm, so a sleeping bag (even a light one) is way too confining and hot.
For many years as a starving graduate student (seriously, being paid $19k before taxes and school fees just doesn't cut very much) I slept on a cheap air mattress. Now that I'm making a bit more than that (and am starting to age), I prefer to actually sleep well.
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@lucas1 Because lying down on the floor is undesirable in many ways.
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@lucas1 said in Mattress Suggestions?:
I dunno why people spend so fucking much on some springs with some fluff in middle.
Because they can. I can sleep on the floor (done it for over a year) but if I have the means to buy a nice mattress why not sleep more comfortably?
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@benjamin-hall I still think you are paying too much. Doesn't matter what you or @Polygeekery say.
Bedding is like a bike saddle, cost is irrelevant, it is how you like it.
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@pie_flavor and @Dragoon are missing the point. Spending loads of money on a mattress won't make it magically better. It is the bed, the mattress, how you sleep normally etc. I will fall asleep on a park bench or a tree if it works for me.
Just sleep in whatever you got. It will feel good if you are tired.
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@lucas1 Cost does correlate (under certain thresholds) to longevity as well. If I spend (WAG) $800, it's more likely to last enough longer than a $400 mattress to make it more cost effective, as well as perform better (degenerate slower) even once it needs to be replaced.
It's the principle behind how it's often more cost effective to buy a good quality pair of shoes than continually replace a cheap one, even though the good ones are much more expensive.
To quote the (departed) master:
The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money.
Take boots, for example. He earned thirty-eight dollars a month plus allowances. A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. Those were the kind of boots Vimes always bought, and wore until the soles were so thin that he could tell where he was in Ankh-Morpork on a foggy night by the feel of the cobbles.
But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that'd still be keeping his feet dry in ten years' time, while the poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.
This was the Captain Samuel Vimes 'Boots' theory of socioeconomic unfairness.
Terry Pratchet (Men at Arms)
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@benjamin-hall Just buy another one when it wears out, we aren't in an age of scarcity.
Sorry you quote is total nonsense in the modern age. To get a cobbler to fix my boots is is half the price of my boots. It is more economical to buy a new pair more often, even if I would like to get them repaired (as I would imagine this is less wasteful in the grand scheme of things).
As someone who own three pairs of good leather boots, it as been prohibitively costly to keep them in good shape. Cobbers / Polish / Gumming etc.
So sorry mate. It doesn't work. It is like the bike snobs that talk about "Brooks Saddles", like they are magical. They are just a saddle. If they don't fit you bum they won't be comfortable however much you spend on polishing them.
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I got mine from Ikea, one of the latex ones (I prefer to have a separate mattress on one of those slatted frames, rather than the combined mattress-frame thing, which is otherwise more common around here.) It's reasonably cool in summer, which was one of the reasons for picking it, and I'm quite happy with it. The mattress itself was probably around USD500.
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@lucas1 said in Mattress Suggestions?:
Sorry you quote is total nonsense in the modern age. To get a cobbler to fix my boots is is half the price of my boots. It is more economical to buy a new pair more often, even if I would like to get them repaired.
If that is your response to that quote, perhaps you should re-read it and try to understand it this time.
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I don't have a recommendation but these memory-foam ones seem amazing on first try.
Just three weeks ago I was in the store and laid down on one, it was unbelievably comfortable. I nearly would've bought it on the spot, but at a price of > 1,000€ for a twin size it did make me remember that 10 years ago I paid as much as lucas for bed and mattress together.If I knew that sleeping in it over the years is as good as test-laying was, I'd get it.
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@dragoon I did. You didn't understand my response.
I said that in the modern age, even things like boots which weren't consumables in the past are now. So the quote is dated and irrelevant in the modern post scarcity world.
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The original quote is that a good pair of boots will last 10 years as opposed to the cheap ones that will last a year, how the hell does a cobbler fit in at all? Your point is nonsensical in relation to the quote.
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@lucas1 said in Mattress Suggestions?:
I said that in the modern age, even things like boots which weren't consumables in the past are now.
Boots have always been consumable items, the difference is in how long a pair will last if properly taken care of. That hasn't really changed, a good pair will still vastly outlast a cheap pair.
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@dragoon Cobblers repair your boots. If you wanted to keep them in good shape you polish and visit the cobbler on a regular basis.
The Cobbler for example a month again re-stitched the inside of my boots. They weren't worn out on the outside but the inside was knackered. He also managed to repair a lot of the leather.
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@dragoon And the point of my comment was, that sometimes it is more expensive to pay for a cobbler to repair the shoes than it is to just buy new ones.
You have to weigh up whether it is worth doing it.
I had a cheap casio watch. To have a the local jeweller to switch the battery for me cost more than the watch itself ... I just bought a new watch from them instead.
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Which has no barring on the original statement that a good pair of boots will last longer than a cheap pair, so a larger upfront cost will save money in the long term.
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@dragoon It depends ultimately is the best you can say. I suspect that it would be more or less the same in terms in cost.
I've been building my own PCs for years. If I built a mid range spec machine "to upgrade", I ended up spending the same as a near top end machine over time.
Whereas now I spent all my cash on a top end machine, and then don't spend anything for 6 or 7 years.
It is swings and roundabouts even with specialised hardware.
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@lucas1 said in Mattress Suggestions?:
I suspect that it would be more or less the same in terms in cost.
That really depends on the item, but in general better quality up front (and thus higher price) saves in the long run.
@lucas1 said in Mattress Suggestions?:
I've been building my own PCs for years. If I built a mid range spec machine "to upgrade", I ended up spending the same as a near top end machine over time.
Whereas now I spent all my cash on a top end machine, and then don't spend anything for 6 or 7 years.
It is swings and roundabouts even with specialised hardware.This is a slightly different situation, that is top of the line while we have been discussing quality. It really is not an equivalent comparison.
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@dragoon said in Mattress Suggestions?:
That really depends on the item, but in general better quality up front (and thus higher price) saves in the long run.
It depends on price divided by performance / longevity / <other quantity>
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@dragoon said in Mattress Suggestions?:
This is a slightly different situation, that is top of the line while we have been discussing quality. It really is not an equivalent comparison.
As I said, I tried both mid range and top range and over time the price is about the same over the long term if you bother upgrading.
It isn't really different. It is only different if you pretend it is.
