Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits
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@anotherusername said in Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits:
filled up your (empty to get it through security) water bottle
That's what I do. And several of the airports I've been in are setup specifically to fill water bottles (part of the water fountain, or at least right next to them).
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@RaceProUK It strikes again!
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@masonwheeler said in Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits:
@dcon Is it really an
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when it doesn't provoke an error response?502 OK
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@accalia said in Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits:
The Reapers are coming
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@PleegWat said in Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits:
ENOERROR
Is that when you're trying to play "Ambient 1: Music For Airports" and accidentally put on "Taking Tiger Mountain (By Strategy)"?
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@xaade said in Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits:
How many nukes does America have?
(From https://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/Nuclearweaponswhohaswhat)
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@xaade said in Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits:
How many nukes
There is only one Duke
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@Gurth Something tells me that Feb 2018 target won't be reached.
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@wharrgarbl said in Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits:
@RaceProUK imagine a fictional reality where:
That 80% of the exploits the NSA and China are common
NK has only one but good exploitNow NSA decide to be naive good guys and all they know gets patched.
USA now has no useful exploits for patched servers
China still has 20% of its former arsenal
NK still has their one good exploitAre you trying to compare exploits with MAD?
Yeah.... no. First of all, you can't defeat exploits with exploits. Second of all, if NK doesn't know if NSA has any exploits either way, how is that going to stop them or encourage them to use their own "arsenal"? Hint: it doesn't.
Also, not all exploits are created equal. Remote code execution exploit on Windows might be cool, but then again it might not be able to "call home". An exploit in a Cisco firewall, now that's a different story which opens different possibilities.
Did I go off on a tangent? Maybe. But either way, "them got the 'sploits too!" argument doesn't hold water. If you patch everything you can, there's a chance you'll stop some of the other exploits as well as an unintended side-effect (your code injection might be worth jack squat if it's also relying on a firewall bug that got patched). Just hoarding the bugs gives you... well, the NHS situation, apparently.
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@Onyx said in Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits:
Are you trying to compare exploits with MAD?
Well, I speculated in some other thread that exploits + basic AI can be combined to create a massive "HACK ALL THE THINGS AT ONCE" tool. And that if that's the case, governments have almost certainly built one and have a "red button" to deploy it at any moment. Which would explain why Obama wanted another button to shut down the internet "in case of emergency".
It's not quite "destruction" but it's certainly disruption on a big scale, and the implications for international security are interesting.
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@Luhmann said in Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits:
@xaade said in Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits:
How many nukes
There is only one Duke
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@Luhmann said in Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits:
@xaade said in Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits:
How many nukes
There is only one Duke
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@RaceProUK said in Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits:
@Gurth Something tells me that Feb 2018 target won't be reached.
Perhaps Kim Jong-un will provide a way to reach it after all.
@xaade said in Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits:
No, just answering the question as asked, mainly because it got me wondering.
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@anonymous234 said in Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits:
exploits + basic AI
Is there any AI that can explore find or use exploits? I think I would have seen it
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@Luhmann said in Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits:
@xaade said in Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits:
How many nukes
There is only one Duke
False
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@wharrgarbl said in Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits:
Is there any AI that can explore find or use exploits? I think I would have seen it
Well, it's not exactly trivial, it would require a lot of effort building a formal ontology of security related stuff and tools. But it doesn't seem impossible either. In fact it kinda seems like the ideal playing field for AIs to compete (hard for humans, requires keeping track of many things, solving lots of smaller problems of varying difficulty, many different possibilities to try....)
There do seem to be things like that:
http://bitblaze.cs.berkeley.edu/papers/apeg.pdf <-- this one is scary: generating exploits automatically from just their patches
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@anonymous234 said in Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits:
it would require a lot of effort building a formal ontology of security related stuff and tools
All formal ontologies take a lot of effort to build. Whatever the subject area.
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@xaade said in Microsoft tells the NSA (and similar) to stop being total shits:
I'm also getting surprising things through the airport by complete accident.
I have a penknife type thing for my wallet. It's credit card sized, has a knife, nail scissors, toothpick etc. As it's always in my wallet, I forget it's there and don't stick it in checked luggage. I've flown twice with it in my pocket, both times getting to the other end, going "whoops, silly me" and storing it in a suitcase ready for the return trip