BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine
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@Lorne-Kates I've been here for quite a while, I just forgot my login and was too lazy to try and remember it, so used my G+ instead. So thanks ^_^
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@TimeBandit said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
@Groaner said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
Shh! You might awaken a certain lurking rodent on to a tirade about how you are a horrible person for cheating the ad man!
When I watch TV with my digital antenna, I don't pay for the signal, so I watch the ads.
When I pay for the signal (ex.: Netflix or cable), why the fuck should I suffer the ads ???Because you have been conditioned to accept ads for broadcast programming, it's not too much of a stretch to sneak them in to basic cable programming as well.
And while it might be far too egregious to slip them into discretely paid programming such as when you go to the theater, they can be subtly woven into the background.
Anthropologists from millenia in the future will marvel at our fascination with brands that barely lasted a few decades, and wonder why we devoted such energy to embedding them into our culture and our legends.
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@Groaner said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
And while it might be far too egregious to slip them into discretely paid programming such as when you go to the theater, they can be subtly woven into the background.
They already do that : you have to watch 10 minutes of freakin ads before you actually see the movie you paid for.
Same thing when you rent a DVD : unskippable previews.
On the other hand, you BitTorrents the movie and you can forget all that shit
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@boomzilla said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
I grew up in Southern California. I recognize the hills (and the types of trees) in so many shows set all over the place.
There's a famous story regarding the finale of M*A*S*H: while they were shooting, a massive wildfire started in the Malibu area, one valley over from the set location. The final script wasn't completed, so when word came that the fire was spreading towards the set and would be there before they could move most of it, they got everyone into costume (even the film and tech crew), grabbed what they could, told the cameramen to film them as they packed up as well as filming the approach of the fire, and hurriedly incorporated it into the story after they got to safety, with the cast going through the wrecked set after it passed as if they were actually coming back after a real fire at the camp. It proved to be some of the best scenes of the last season.
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@TimeBandit I was pleasantly surprised at the amount of ads on my x-men: apocalypse blu-ray when I first watched it last weekend: 0 seconds.
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@PleegWat Maybe they're starting to get a clue.
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@ScholRLEA said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
M*A*S*H
I think SoCal is probably not a terrible setting for Korea during the war. The hills make sense and the trees hadn't recovered from the Japanese occupation yet.
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@TimeBandit Yup. All they had was the rating trailer (not the most annoying version I've seen). And the 'Making this film employed a lot of people for quite a while" text at the end, which I agree with.
The most horrible ad I've seen on a blu-ray in the past was a long "You wouldn't steal a bread, why would you steal a movie" ad. Stichting brein, you're preaching to the choir.
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@PleegWat said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
The most horrible ad I've seen on a blu-ray in the past was a long "You wouldn't steal a bread, why would you steal a movie" ad. Stichting brein, you're preaching to the choir.
Or the famous "FBI WARNING" : I live in Canada you stupid dumb shit.
File under: FBI in Canada (a long time ago)
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@Lorne-Kates the service probably worked fine, but because the Canadian government banned all browsers except for Firefox 22, you couldn't get it to work properly.
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@Lorne-Kates said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
People will use US-based cheapboxes or proxies to get access. Netflix announced at some point that they'd cut off those accounts. No idea how they'd identify, or if they actually followed through
Apparently they can tell the difference between a "commercial" IP address and a "residential" IP address so blocking commercial ones would block the VPNs and methods of getting around region blocks.
Getting blocked trying to pay for content would just force people to find easier methods that aren't blocked!
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@Lorne-Kates said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
. Netflix announced at some point that they'd cut off those accounts.
They did a long time ago - luckily after rolling Netflix out worldwide. Made me save 5 euro a month on that DigitalOcean droplet with OpenVPN running.
DO is on quite a number of blacklists from what I know, though. There were more sites where I've been forced to use Hola to get around the IP block.
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@Lorne-Kates amen. We have an HDTV antenna, and the selection is pretty good considering that it's just sitting against a wall in the living room and it costs nothing.
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@Lorne-Kates said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
I still have a set of rabbit ears. They're digital (since analog TV is literally dead in Canada), but they pick up the local channels well enough.
There really isn't such a thing as a "digital antenna". I'm using my 30 year old rooftop antenna with no problems on digital TV for many years (analogue TV is also dead here in Australia). An antenna marketed as digital would still have worked on most analogue channels, but they should be designed for the frequencies used in the area, excluding others, making it cheaper and lighter.
When digital TV was rolled out they consolidated the frequencies used, so most metropolitan areas would be receiving TV through the spectrum formerly occupied by channels 6-12. So you don't need low VHF nor any UHF. So the common analogue channels 2 and 28 would not have worked with one of those antennas. Other areas use a similar 6-channel block of UHF for their digital TV.
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@Sumireko said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
The name "Showmi" conjures up images of the mudflap girl
When I first saw that name I thought @Lorne-Kates had branched out into killing strippers too.
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@DogsB said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
killing strippers too.
Only if they are trans ... or midgets
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@Lorne-Kates said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
@Groaner said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
Sailing the seven proxseas?
People will use US-based cheapboxes or proxies to get access. Netflix announced at some point that they'd cut off those accounts. No idea how they'd identify, or if they actually followed through. I honestly don't care if they decided to cut off their nose to
spit their facebetter deepthroat MPAA cock.Sigh. You use a US-based proxy, your packets arrive at their servers from a US-based IP address that can be traced back to the proxy service. Game over.
Oh, and the self-inflicted nasal wound is to spite your face.
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@Luhmann said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
@DogsB said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
killing strippers too.
Only if they are trans ... or midgets
We should encourage him to go after vegans. There's a community I want to see gone.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
You use a US-based proxy, your packets arrive at their servers from a US-based IP address that can be traced back to the proxy service. Game over.
Whenever I need a US proxy, I fire up an Amazon t2.nano Linux EC2 instance and
ssh -D1080
into it. Is Netflix proposing to IP-block all of AWS?
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@DogsB said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
We should encourage him to go after vegans.
What have aliens from Vega ever done to you?!
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@dkf said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
@DogsB said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
We should encourage him to go after vegans.
What have aliens from Vega ever done to you?!
actually my brain read vegans rather differently and had a major overload.
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@TimeBandit said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
They already do that : you have to watch 10 minutes of freakin ads before you actually see the movie you paid for.
That is why I arrive 10min late for any movie.
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@Zemm said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
There really isn't such a thing as a "digital antenna".
Depending on your location relative to the broadcasters, it's possible to get digital TV by sticking a paper clip in the coax port.
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@flabdablet said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
Is Netflix proposing to IP-block all of AWS?
I doubt the majority of non-US Netflix users have an AWS account.
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@xaade said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
I actually enjoy it
Oh yeah, they're hilarious :D I love watching them. They're usually exaggerating for effect, of course. Sometimes the movies are truly awful and they barely have to try, but sometimes they have to reach for it. Either way, a fun way to spend a half hour or so catching up from time to time.
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@flabdablet said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
You use a US-based proxy, your packets arrive at their servers from a US-based IP address that can be traced back to the proxy service. Game over.
Whenever I need a US proxy, I fire up an Amazon t2.nano Linux EC2 instance and
ssh -D1080
into it. Is Netflix proposing to IP-block all of AWS?You know damned well I didn't mean that kind of proxying. But I don't really see why they would want to accept connections from AWS machines, either.
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@groo said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
@TimeBandit said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
They already do that : you have to watch 10 minutes of freakin ads before you actually see the movie you paid for.
That is why I arrive 10min late for any movie.
Don't do that. Sometimes the ads are better than the movie. (I have seen a few films, in actual cinemas, that were worse than the ads.)
Notably:
- An ad for one of the British banks, I think Barclays, that spoofed trailers for every action thriller ever made.
- An ad for the UK Virgin Radio, featuring an unattractively overweight gentleman in sweats, baseball cap and headphones, dancing to some music or other. The voiceover, after 20-30 seconds of this unedifying spectacle: "Listen to Virgin Radio or next time, he's naked!"(1)
(1) I didn't see any reports of this one being dragged in front of the Advertising Standards Authority, but it disappeared shortly afterwards, never to be seen again, and I wouldn't be surprised if some fussbudget with a stick up his (or more likely her) jacksie complained about it denigrating fat people or some such bulldinkey.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
Sometimes the ads are better than the movie.
Go to better movies.
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@dkf said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
@DogsB said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
We should encourage him to go after vegans.
What have aliens from Vega ever done to you?!
They know what they did.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
You know damned well I didn't mean that kind of proxying.
Oh, sorry. I didn't realize your "game over" was confined to the expensive kind that doesn't work.
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@DogsB said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
When I first saw that name I thought @Lorne-Kates had branched out into killing strippers too.
So only you doing that?
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@Greybeard said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
@DogsB said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
When I first saw that name I thought @Lorne-Kates had branched out into killing strippers too.
So only you doing that?
I only do it on weekends these days. :( Just don't have the time to make it a weekday activity anymore. :/
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@dkf said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
Sometimes the ads are better than the movie.
Go to better movies.
I would, except that you can't always tell that they are good. And "good" is a subjective measure, although I do remember clearly going to one film in 1986 that sucked hard, but we should have known (four of us, all students) that it was likely to be bad, seeing as how the mother of the fellow student whose house we were all staying in pointed out it had received just ONE star from the local newspaper's reviewer. Of course, she waited until after we got back to do so...
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@flabdablet said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
You know damned well I didn't mean that kind of proxying.
Oh, sorry. I didn't realize your "game over" was confined to the expensive kind that doesn't work.
Frankly, any connection to Netflix from an AWS machine is unlikely to be an actual human at the machine using it to watch films while physically inside Amazon's data centre. Tell me again why you think they would want to accept connections from AWS machines?
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@Steve_The_Cynic Considering how much of their own infrastructure is built on AWS, I would expect failing to accept connections from it to cause them more grief than it fixes.
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@flabdablet said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
@Steve_The_Cynic Considering how much of their own infrastructure is built on AWS, I would expect failing to accept connections from it to cause them more grief than it fixes.
Hmm. I was thinking specifically of film-watching connections, of course.
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@Steve_The_Cynic Yeah, well. Worked for me last time I checked. I don't expect it to stop working any time soon.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
Tell me again why you think they would want to accept connections from AWS machines?
Look at it this way: someone's paying for a subscription, and as far as Netflix can tell, it's "from a machine inside the US" so they're good to go. If they blocked the connection, the subscription holder might cancel. Why would they bother? As long as they appear to be obeying the law, why make extra work for themselves?
If this was letting pirates get films for free they'd shut it down in a heartbeat, but it's still paying customers.
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@Yamikuronue what they want to block is you signing up somewhere they charge less money and watching somewhere they charge more (with a larger catalog)
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@groo Which they can probably easily detect based on IP location + account type.
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@dkf said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
Sometimes the ads are better than the movie.
Go to better movies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZusXRvcUlM
"Mann über Bord" = "Man over board"
"Bleiben Sie ruhig" = "Keep calm"
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I've never had a problem with Netflix Canada's content. I'm not interested in most of the stuff that comes out of the US, and the few things that I do care about are already there. Then again, I'm just generally not interested in TV or movies.
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@Yamikuronue said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
@groo Which they can probably easily detect based on IP location + account type.
Based on IP location, really? When it's a connection proxied via AWS? Think about what you're saying, please.
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@flabdablet said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
@Steve_The_Cynic Yeah, well. Worked for me last time I checked. I don't expect it to stop working any time soon.
Hmm. Well, it's up to them, of course.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
Oh, and the self-inflicted nasal wound is to spite your face.
Given the context, it was probably meant to be "spit your roast".
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@flabdablet said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in BREAKING NEWS: Online streaming still sucks in every way you can imagine:
You use a US-based proxy, your packets arrive at their servers from a US-based IP address that can be traced back to the proxy service. Game over.
Whenever I need a US proxy, I fire up an Amazon t2.nano Linux EC2 instance and
ssh -D1080
into it. Is Netflix proposing to IP-block all of AWS?Netflix actually did.