Bethesda dealing with Fallout



  • @HardwareGeek said in Bethesda dealing with Fallout:

    modern potatoes

    🥑 :toaster: ?


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    @HardwareGeek said in Bethesda dealing with Fallout:

    @GOG said in Bethesda dealing with Fallout:

    there are still maniacs out there who do muck around in the old machines.

    There are also maniacs out there who muck around with trying to run things on ridiculously under-specced modern potatoes. Hi, @Tsaukpaetra 👋 !

    I have been summoned, and so I appear.



  • @error said in Bethesda dealing with Fallout:

    @acrow said in Bethesda dealing with Fallout:

    Is anyone else bothered by the fact that we're relying on a random hobbyist's hack, to access entertainment that we paid full value for, purchased less than a decade ago?

    Here's Sony's legal defense for the class action lawsuit against them for pulling OtherOS from PS3:

    Well, Your Honor, a manufacturer's
    obligation for anything having to do with a product itself is
    only defined by its express warranty, its express promises.

    If SCEA, Sony, had said, "We guarantee that the other
    OS function would be supported," if they said, "We guarantee
    PlayStation Network access will always be available," anything
    about the duration, plaintiffs might have an argument.

    The only thing that Sony told anyone about the
    duration of any feature of the PS3 is what it said in the one
    year express limited hardware warranty. It said "one year."
    And as the Daughtery case, as the Bardin case, and as
    subsequent federal court authorities have noted, where
    something arises after the duration of that promised one year,
    the purchaser can have no expectation.

    So, Your Honor, if the purchaser can have no
    expectation of the PlayStation 3 functioning at all after the
    expiration of that one-year warranty, how can it somehow have a
    greater expectation about the availability of one feature?

    If SCEA cannot have liability under California law
    for the PS3 completely failing to perform after one year, how
    can it have liability for the fact that it does 99 percent of
    what it was advertised to do, and just not one?

    That is completely irrational and cannot be
    reconciled with existing California law.

    (Sony are, of course, rat bastards.)

    TIL

    ...And suddenly my PC gaming rig seems much cheaper. I think all the parts have at least 3 years of warranty. Usually I don't change components in less than 5 years. Except maybe GPUs.
    But compared to a 1-year warranty in a console (and there's some history of it being relevant), my PC actually has a lower per-warranty-year component cost.


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    @acrow Over here in EU there should be a mandatory 3-year warranty for consumer electronics, though, at least in regards to hardware faults. I did check to see if the OtherOS feature was removed within three years of console release, but it was removed just after 3 years had passed here.

    Although I dunno the use for OtherOS anyway. You can install some variants of Linux on niche hardware with an abysmally bad CPU for general computing tasks. Awesome!



  • @acrow said in Bethesda dealing with Fallout:

    @error said in Bethesda dealing with Fallout:

    TIL

    ...And suddenly my PC gaming rig seems much cheaper. I think all the parts have at least 3 years of warranty. Usually I don't change components in less than 5 years. Except maybe GPUs.
    But compared to a 1-year warranty in a console (and there's some history of it being relevant), my PC actually has a lower per-warranty-year component cost.

    :um-actually: The warranty is at least 2 years, because that is EU-wide minimum. I would not be surprised if you actually get 3 year warranty, depending on where you shop.

    Unless you buy your components from USA and always get 3-year warranty (but I don't think it's likely), the California legal minimum is not really relevant.



  • @Atazhaia It was used for clusters, by people dumb enough to not block/delay updates.


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    They did it, folks! At least, they seem to have. They're getting away with it.

    Why are you letting Bethesda get away with this?


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