The Official Cool Stuff Thread
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@PleegWat said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
Interestingly, I do not recall ever having those problems with chalkboards.
Chalkboards are also the only method that allows a pupil to be the teacher's pet by being allowed to run and wet the sponge (no, that's not an euphemism!) to clean up the board. Or at least so it was when I was in primary school. In retrospect I don't know why it sounded such an important thing. Probably just because it meant being allowed to get out of the classroom for a minute or so during lesson's time.
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@remi When you're little, being allowed to do things that adults take for granted is exciting. Especially if you're the one kid in the class who's allowed to do it that day.
As a kid, I wasn't even allowed to wash dishes, so since emancipation I have never regarded washing dishes as a drag.
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@jinpa said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
I have never regarded washing dishes as a drag
The greasier they are, the more awful the job is.
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@jinpa said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
since emancipation I have never regarded washing dishes as a drag.
You save your "special" clothes for less humdrum activities?
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@remi said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@PleegWat said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
Interestingly, I do not recall ever having those problems with chalkboards.
Chalkboards are also the only method that allows a pupil to be the teacher's pet by being allowed to run and wet the sponge (no, that's not an euphemism!) to clean up the board. Or at least so it was when I was in primary school. In retrospect I don't know why it sounded such an important thing. Probably just because it meant being allowed to get out of the classroom for a minute or so during lesson's time.
Erasing the teachings after they have been taught! A task only entrusted to the worthy!
— Terry Pratchett, The Fifth Elephant
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@PleegWat a destroyer of words.
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@Rhywden said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
c) It's also easily refillable - as I said, a bit like crayons. So you pay a bit more for the pen and then pay way less for refills.
Just wait until your cyan runs out
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@dcon said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
I feel that this belongs more in the Not Sure If... or even straight in the Evil Ideas thread.
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@GOG said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@dcon said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
I feel that this belongs more in the Not Sure If... or even straight in the Evil Ideas thread.
No, not at all.
Travelling around on a heavy electric bicycle, stairs have become an obstacle to me - I could carry the 15 kg bio bike, but the 30 kg electric bike is to heavy at my current bad health. I'd like to be able to push it on stairways.
And that's a fine construction which allows for that.
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@BernieTheBernie said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@GOG said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@dcon said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
I feel that this belongs more in the Not Sure If... or even straight in the Evil Ideas thread.
No, not at all.
Travelling around on a heavy electric bicycle, stairs have become an obstacle to me - I could carry the 15 kg bio bike, but the 30 kg electric bike is to heavy at my current bad health. I'd like to be able to push it on stairways.
And that's a fine construction which allows for that.Do you have any desire to safely ascend or descend the stairs themselves?
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There's nothing wrong with putting up a ramp next to stairs. Having it snake across the stairs, on the other hand...
@BernieTheBernie said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
Travelling around on a heavy electric bicycle
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@GOG said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@dcon said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
I feel that this belongs more in the Not Sure If... or even straight in the Evil Ideas thread.
For wheelchair people, it's perfectly fine, unless there's ice there. But that never happens in eh?
Back when I was stuck in one, the training I got in the hospital included going up/down stairs, balancing on a balancing board, jumoping sidewalk edges, going up/down escalators and regular stairs and stuff like that. This ramp seems like a pretty good idea, apart from if it's iced over. But wheelchairs are really horrible in snow or slush altogether.
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@Carnage The ramp isn't the issue, the fact that it's going across the stairs is. You essentially have a situation where you have wheeled traffic going left-right and foot traffic going up-down on the same stretch, at the same time. To say nothing of the fact that the ramp edges aren't actually guarded from the steps, so you can do some really neat stunts with your wheelchair or baby buggy if something goes wrong.
The more I look at it the more I want to grab Ms Oberlander by the neck and toss her down this monstrosity. I wonder if she would roll more down the ramp or more down the stairs.
I hate, hate, hate, hate this, probably more than I ought to, but I've been on edge recently.
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@GOG said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@Carnage The ramp isn't the issue, the fact that it's going across the stairs is. You essentially have a situation where you have wheeled traffic going left-right and foot traffic going up-down on the same stretch, at the same time. To say nothing of the fact that the ramp edges aren't actually guarded from the steps, so you can do some really neat stunts with your wheelchair or baby buggy if something goes wrong.
The more I look at it the more I want to grab Ms Oberlander by the neck and toss her down this monstrosity. I wonder if she would roll more down the ramp or more down the stairs.
I hate, hate, hate, hate this, probably more than I ought to, but I've been on edge recently.
I take it you don't like bike paths either then, since they also cross walk paths, and the speed difference is way higher there.
And I think there are too many fences to prevent stupid people from punishing themselves already. And as far as for accident's it's probably better than the ramps that go straight down the stairs, because of the angle they end up having.
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@GOG said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
There's nothing wrong with putting up a ramp next to stairs. Having it snake across the stairs, on the other hand...
@BernieTheBernie said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
Travelling around on a heavy electric bicycle
Well, see the Fuck My Health messages elsewhere...
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@Carnage I prefer bike paths to the alternative of having cyclists on the sidewalk (which, frankly speaking, is what you get anyway, because cyclists). However, I don't know about where you live, but round here bike paths tend not to zigzag across walk path, and - even if they did - you'd still have traffic going mostly parallel, at least.
This absolute piece of shit has the wheeled traffic zigzagging at right angles to the foot traffic, with a fucking ramp which ensures that gravity will accelerate said wheeled traffic downwards (and fucking across because of course) unless effort is put into it. While it is accelerating, why not have the wheels on one side start travelling straight and level (because they just clipped the edge of the stairs), while the other side continues to travel downwards along the ramp - you can do more damage that way.
Stair-and-ramp combinations have been a thing in Poland for longer than I have been alive, and I've been alive for too fucking long already, it seems. There's nothing revolutionary about having a ramp for wheeled traffic.
This, on the other hand, deserves graphic violence being publicly perpetrated on the architect, as a warning to others. I have several ideas (all of which seem to involve Mario, for some reason...)
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@GOG said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
This absolute piece of shit has the wheeled traffic zigzagging at right angles to the foot traffic, with a fucking ramp which ensures that gravity will accelerate said wheeled traffic downwards (and fucking across because of course) unless effort is put into it. While it is accelerating, why not have the wheels on one side start travelling straight and level (because they just clipped the edge of the stairs), while the other side continues to travel downwards along the ramp - you can do more damage that way.
Stair-and-ramp combinations have been a thing in Poland for longer than I have been alive, and I've been alive for too fucking long already, it seems. There's nothing revolutionary about having a ramp for wheeled traffic.
If you do height differentials like this with a straight ramp in Poland, I'd like to watch the carnage.
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@GOG Another thing, which hasn't been mentioned yet, is that where the ramp cuts across the stairs, it makes the rise of the stairs nonuniform, vastly increasing the probability of stair-users tripping.
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@jinpa said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
As a kid, I wasn't even allowed to wash dishes
Dafuq child isn't indentured as soon as they can lift a rag?
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status: do we have a "wish it was a Cool Stuff" thread?
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@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@jinpa said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
As a kid, I wasn't even allowed to wash dishes
Dafuq child isn't indentured as soon as they can lift a rag?
Children of parents who know the Tom Sawyer Effect?
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@LaoC said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
If you do height differentials like this with a straight ramp in Poland, I'd like to watch the carnage.
Why would you think we would? We just don't put our ramps in the middle of the fucking stairs because that is unspeakably fucking stupid.
@HardwareGeek said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@GOG Another thing, which hasn't been mentioned yet, is that where the ramp cuts across the stairs, it makes the rise of the stairs nonuniform, vastly increasing the probability of stair-users tripping.
Good point
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@GOG said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@LaoC said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
If you do height differentials like this with a straight ramp in Poland, I'd like to watch the carnage.
Why would you think we would?
How else do you do it?
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@LaoC We have developed this amazing technology - it's gonna totes blow your mind - that we call - get this! - running the ramp next to the stairs.
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@GOG said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@LaoC We have developed this amazing technology - it's gonna totes blow your mind - that we call - get this! - running the ramp next to the stairs.
As I said, for height differentials like the one pictured, this sounds
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@GOG Another thing, which hasn't been mentioned yet, is that where the ramp cuts across the stairs, it makes the rise of the stairs nonuniform, vastly increasing the probability of stair-users tripping.
It forces people to focus their mind on their walking, which has untold benefits.
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@LaoC said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@GOG said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@LaoC We have developed this amazing technology - it's gonna totes blow your mind - that we call - get this! - running the ramp next to the stairs.
As I said, for height differentials like the one pictured, this sounds
I mean...that's a lot shorter but you should get the idea.
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@boomzilla said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
you should get the idea.
There are many ideas that people should get but don't.
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@HardwareGeek why I used the word I used.
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@boomzilla said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
I mean...that's a lot shorter but you should get the idea.
Would it be a good, bad, or cool idea if the switch back was properly banked...
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@LaoC You know how the ramp pictured snakes left to right? That's how you deal with height differentials. Amazing, I know.
And you know the really neat thing? You don't actually need stairs to implement it.
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@boomzilla said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@LaoC said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@GOG said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@LaoC We have developed this amazing technology - it's gonna totes blow your mind - that we call - get this! - running the ramp next to the stairs.
As I said, for height differentials like the one pictured, this sounds
I mean...that's a lot shorter but you should get the idea.
That's what he said … but yeah, that's why I used the words I used, "for height differentials like the one pictured". Sure, you could use the width minus a meter or so for the ramp with just one more switchback (it's pretty steep already, too steep for most people's self-propelled wheelchairs) and squeeze the stairs into the rest. I doubt people would be happier with that.
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@LaoC Do they seriously not have ramps where you live?
Because, let me assure you, we've known how to build ramps for millenia. There's nothing revolutionary about Oberlander's design other than that it's inset into the stairs, which we haven't done in all the time (millenia) we've known how to build ramps and stairs, because it's fucking retarded.
Just looking at the picture now, there is easily space to put a four-course ramp exactly the size of the one pictured next to the stairs and still have plenty of staircase width. There's absolutely no reason to do a "stramp" (even the very name is retarded) other than an attempt to be clever, which works just as well as might be expected.
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@HardwareGeek said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
vastly increasing the probability of stair-users tripping.
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@GOG said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@LaoC Do they seriously not have ramps where you live?
Because, let me assure you, we've known how to build ramps for millenia.
Let me assure you, a wheelchair ramp is not the same thing as the ones you use to roll kwas barrels up into the barn.
Just looking at the picture now, there is easily space to put a four-course ramp exactly the size of the one pictured next to the stairs and still have plenty of staircase width.
Given that the ramp goes across the entire available width, I wonder how you'd do that without making it even steeper.
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@LaoC By running it at a 90 degree angle to how it is now?
@LaoC said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
Let me assure you, a wheelchair ramp is not the same thing as the ones you use to roll kwas barrels up into the barn.
Are you messing me about, or are you actually an idiot?
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@GOG said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
"stramp"
FWIW, there's one of these around here and while I haven't developed the level of irrational hatred towards it that you seem to have, I do find it quite annoying to use the stairs. They require an unreasonable amount of attention to climb (and even more for descending) because the ramp completely breaks my rhythm of staircase climbing. The tripping hazard is real to some degree.
I've never used it as a ramp but I suspect it's similarly difficult to use because it's relatively narrow and not clearly bounded (both physically and visibly) so you'd need to be careful to stay on it. (It's a slightly different design than pictured, the stairs are wider at the bottom and less steep, and the stone is brighter, all of which makes the ramp stand out less than in that picture)
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@ixvedeusi Honestly, I didn't start hating it so much until I was forced to articulate everything that is wrong with the idea. What gets me is that it introduces additional hazards for both those using the stairs, and - even more so - the users of the ramp, who are often already disadvantaged, for no additional benefit.
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@GOG said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
it introduces additional hazards for ... the users of the ramp
Did I fix it or what?
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@Applied-Mediocrity
maybe it would be easier to install a foam pit at the bottom
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@Luhmann said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@Applied-Mediocrity
maybe it would be easier to install afoam pitThermal Discouragement Apparatus at the bottom
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@Luhmann said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@Applied-Mediocrity
maybe it would be easier to install afoam pitThermal Discouragement Apparatus at the bottomHow did you guess the key part of the Donkey Kong re-enactment I was plannning for Ms Oberlander?
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@GOG There's not too many things that a deadly laser can't make better
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@GOG said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
Are you messing me about, or are you actually an idiot?
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in The Official Cool Stuff Thread:
@GOG There's not too many things that a deadly laser can't make better
Swanky! I was just going to light a big fire.
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@Applied-Mediocrity It doesn't even look like it's ADA-compliant (pitch no more than 1:12). What is the equivalent Canadian requirement?
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