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@acrow said in In other news today...:
So if the battery catches fire, it's up to the adult to dive between the front seats to pull the mechanical release before exiting the burning vehicle.
If the adult is alive and conscious, that is.
The futuristic door handles on Tesla Inc.’s Model S are being blamed for a fatal crash in which a police officer was unable to pull a man to safety from his burning car.
Omar Awan, a 48-year-old anesthesiologist, was driving his leased Tesla in February when he lost control on a south Florida parkway and the car slammed into a palm tree, according to a wrongful death lawsuit filed in state court in Broward County.
A police officer couldn’t open the doors because the handles were retracted and bystanders watched helplessly as the car filled with smoke and flames, according to the complaint, which alleges the fire originated with the car’s battery.
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@acrow That's basically what happens when you think 'those car companies move so slow, they need to be "disrupted"', so you approach it with the tried and tested reliability and safety of average, non-embedded software development processes.
Filed under: the door handles probably run node.
E: fixed VC-wanking wording.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
Filed under: the door handles probably run node.
According to leaks from Tesla ex employees they indeed do.
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@MrL said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
Filed under: the door handles probably run node.
According to leaks from Tesla ex employees they indeed do.
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@MrL said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
Filed under: the door handles probably run node.
According to leaks from Tesla ex employees they indeed do.
Kind of explains why Musk is proud of the Tesla's computer being able to run Cyberpunk 2077.
If it can run Node it'll handle CP2077 easily.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
mechanical back-up
On a Tesla? Never!!! Never ever use a $0.05 piece of metal to do what a fragile, temperamental, $5000 computer can do almost as well, sometimes, if it isn't on fire.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
"A police officer couldn’t open the doors because the handles were retracted and bystanders watched helplessly as the car filled with smoke and flames, according to the complaint, which alleges the fire originated with the car’s battery."
If the car's on fire, smashing one of the windows seems like an option. After that you can just reach in and open the door from the inside.
... oh, wait, the mechanical release is below the seat, so good luck actually reaching it.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
Are these things actually strong enough to work when there's a layer of ice all over the car doors? Because I have some doubts...
Ice on the doors? What do you mean, that never happens in California, the only place in the world
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@hungrier How do you mean you park outside in freezing temperatures? You're just parking it wrong.
Heated Tesla garage sold separately. Don't store pets, kids or homeless people unless they've shown that they can pull the emergency levers at the top of the garage.
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Hmm, this is an interesting feature that I haven't really noticed before:
but:
Edit: Nevermind. Guess @JBert edited in the second part, and nodeBB didn't refresh the post, so this is just Expected Behaviour(tm).
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@JBert said in In other news today...:
@hungrier How do you mean you park outside
in freezing temperatures?FTFC
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
But in case of the rear seats you have to fold back the carpet under the rear seats and locate the lever there.
Under a carpet meaning, on the floor? Mounted in that thin metal sheet between the rear passengers and the battery bay? And that handle's still supposed to work while the battery pack is burning?
Also, are there rear door child-locks in a Teslas? And if there are, then do the rear doors have any mechanical back-up on the outside?
Yes, such is the strength of the Mammalian Smell Lithium Vapor And Look Under The Seat For A Lever Reflex.
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
@acrow said in In other news today...:
"A police officer couldn’t open the doors because the handles were retracted and bystanders watched helplessly as the car filled with smoke and flames, according to the complaint, which alleges the fire originated with the car’s battery."
If the car's on fire, smashing one of the windows seems like an option. After that you can just reach in and open the door from the inside.
... oh, wait, the mechanical release is below the seat, so good luck actually reaching it.
This being the front door, the mechanical back-up was on the door itself, and can actually be reached through the window. But you'd need to know it's there. And know where exactly it is.
In some modern cars, I've had to search long for the inside handle, even if I can see the whole door (i.e. the car wasn't full of smoke).Smashing the window might have still been a good idea. Most people can be pulled out through one by a couple of reasonably fit officers.
But you need a sharp, heavy implement to break a window from the outside. Or a pistol. But the police on the scene may not have been familiar enough with firearms to consider that.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
Smashing the window might have still been a good idea. Most people can be pulled out through one by a couple of reasonably fit officers.
But you need a sharp, heavy implement to break a window from the outside. Or a pistol. But the police on the scene may not have been familiar enough with firearms to consider that.Do you mean "a pistol to use as a sharp, heavy implement" or "a pistol to shoot a hole in the window?"
I'm no gun expert, but the latter seems... a very bad idea, to say the least (well if you kill the person inside I guess you don't have to worry about extracting them anymore...). And the former... around here policemen (who wear a gun) usually carry some sort of (collapsible) crowd-control baton, whatever you call it (tonfa or some variation). That's probably a much better implement to use to break a window (heck, it's probably even designed for that when e.g. they have to extract an unwilling driver from a car!) than a gun. So I don't really think that a gun is of much use in this scenario.
Except if the person inside the car is the one who designed this stupid handle-less thing, then you can kill them. They're gonna die anyway, by their own stupidity, but let's be humane and shorten their pain.
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@remi said in In other news today...:
@acrow said in In other news today...:
Smashing the window might have still been a good idea. Most people can be pulled out through one by a couple of reasonably fit officers.
But you need a sharp, heavy implement to break a window from the outside. Or a pistol. But the police on the scene may not have been familiar enough with firearms to consider that.Do you mean "a pistol to use as a sharp, heavy implement" or "a pistol to shoot a hole in the window?"
To shoot, of course. Unless you're out of bullets, then using one as a club is singularly pointless.
I'm no gun expert, but the latter seems... a very bad idea, to say the least (well if you kill the person inside I guess you don't have to worry about extracting them anymore...).
How so? If the side windows are tempered glass (as they should be), then any hole should shatter the glass completely. And even if they're not, you can proceed to smash the rest once the bullets crack enough of it.
Also, a pro-tip: Aim at the dashboard. It doesn't matter which part of the window the initial crack is at. You don't need to aim at the people inside.
And the former... around here policemen (who wear a gun) usually carry some sort of (collapsible) crowd-control baton, whatever you call it (tonfa or some variation). That's probably a much better implement to use to break a window (heck, it's probably even designed for that when e.g. they have to extract an unwilling driver from a car!) than a gun. So I don't really think that a gun is of much use in this scenario.
Sure, if the cop is carrying that, and if it's designed for breaking car windows. Not all police carry one. But all of them carry guns.
Also, a tonfa or normal baton won't cut it. Modern car windows are hard. A collapsible may give enough of an impact to crack tempered glass. But you have to know exactly where to hit.
Here's a video demonstrating both the hardness of car windows, and of the correct way to break the glass:
News Reporter Can't Break Into Car FAIL! – 01:51
— racing4thewin
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
This being the front door, the mechanical back-up was on the door itself, and can actually be reached through the window. But you'd need to know it's there. And know where exactly it is.
Yeah, fair. Small blessing it was just the driver, and not some kids trapped in the backseats, I guess. Still, the current set up (electrical doors, hard-to-reach mechanical releases) for the back doors doesn't exactly inspire happy thoughts. Seems like that's just a question of time before it causes problems.
But you need a sharp, heavy implement to break a window from the outside.
Yeah, OK, I admit not having too much experience with that, so I don't have a good estimate to what it'd actually take. Still, there has to be a point where shooting the window is a better choice than letting the people inside burn to death. (Safety glass, so once there's a hole, the rest of the window should be easier to remove?)
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d.
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@remi said in In other news today...:
around here policemen (who wear a gun) usually carry some sort of (collapsible) crowd-control baton, whatever you call it (tonfa or some variation).
BART SIMPSON: Can I see your club?
CHIEF WIGGUM: (hands it to him) You know, it's not a club. It's called a baton.
BART SIMPSON: (swings it around) Cool, what's it for?
CHIEF WIGGUM: Clubbing.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
I'm no gun expert, but the latter seems... a very bad idea, to say the least (well if you kill the person inside I guess you don't have to worry about extracting them anymore...).
How so? If the side windows are tempered glass (as they should be), then any hole should shatter the glass completely. And even if they're not, you can proceed to smash the rest once the bullets crack enough of it.
Also, a pro-tip: Aim at the dashboard. It doesn't matter which part of the window the initial crack is at. You don't need to aim at the people inside.
I have a strong suspicion that if you were to post that suggestion in another of the garage threads, and under an alias that isn't known as One of Us, you would get less than sympathetic responses. I have no specific expertise about it, but really, shooting to the inside of an enclosed space, in a situation where said space may even be filled with smoke (at the very least there is probably smoke around that space, since the scenario is a car burning), and you don't know exactly how the occupants are laid out (are you sure no one was projected upon the dashboard by the impact?), well, if that doesn't sound like a bad idea to you, I'm not sure what will.
Sure, if the cop is carrying that, and if it's designed for breaking car windows. Not all police carry one. But all of them carry guns.
:well_there's_your_problem:Go and equip your cops better.Also, a tonfa or normal baton won't cut it. Modern car windows are hard. A collapsible may give enough of an impact to crack tempered glass. But you have to know exactly where to hit.
What's more likely, that a cop has been trained to use a baton to break a window (i.e. something that might be useful in many situations, either rescue or arrest), or that the same cop has been trained to shoot at the inside of a car in a way that will in no way hurt any of the occupants but still break a window (i.e. something that might, maybe, hypothetically, be useful in very rare cases)?
I mean, I know that when all you have is a
hammergun, all problems look likenailsgun targets, but frankly, I'd hope that cops are better trained than that.Though we're talking about a Florida cop, so who knows?
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@remi said in In other news today...:
@acrow said in In other news today...:
I'm no gun expert, but the latter seems... a very bad idea, to say the least (well if you kill the person inside I guess you don't have to worry about extracting them anymore...).
How so? If the side windows are tempered glass (as they should be), then any hole should shatter the glass completely. And even if they're not, you can proceed to smash the rest once the bullets crack enough of it.
Also, a pro-tip: Aim at the dashboard. It doesn't matter which part of the window the initial crack is at. You don't need to aim at the people inside.
I have a strong suspicion that if you were to post that suggestion in another of the garage threads, and under an alias that isn't known as One of Us, you would get less than sympathetic responses.
I doubt it, but we'd have to see. There's precedent in breaking car windows by firing a gun, in an emergency. One case that I remember was a car that'd fallen into a river. A helper got to the car, but was unable to open the door (due to the water pressure). He had a gun on hand. IIRC the lives of 2 kids were saved.
I have no specific expertise about it, but really, shooting to the inside of an enclosed space, in a situation where said space may even be filled with smoke (at the very least there is probably smoke around that space, since the scenario is a car burning), and you don't know exactly how the occupants are laid out (are you sure no one was projected upon the dashboard by the impact?), well, if that doesn't sound like a bad idea to you, I'm not sure what will.
To me, leaving the occupants into a burning car, while you run to fetch a hammer, sounds worse.
Of course, if I were in that situation and had both a hammer and a gun, then I'd try the hammer first. But it's all in what the situation demands and what you have at hand.
When an emergency happens, we might as well wish for full complement of car-opening tools. But when seconds matter, you only have what's in your pockets and nothing else.
Sure, if the cop is carrying that, and if it's designed for breaking car windows. Not all police carry one. But all of them carry guns.
:well_there's_your_problem:Go and equip your cops better.Not my cops. I'm not from the U.S.. But do note that there's a limit to how much equipment a cop can carry. So precincts have to make compromises and tradeoffs. E.g. do you issue them Tasers or Naloxone.
Also, a tonfa or normal baton won't cut it. Modern car windows are hard. A collapsible may give enough of an impact to crack tempered glass. But you have to know exactly where to hit.
What's more likely, that a cop has been trained to use a baton to break a window (i.e. something that might be useful in many situations, either rescue or arrest), or that the same cop has been trained to shoot at the inside of a car in a way that will in no way hurt any of the occupants but still break a window (i.e. something that might, maybe, hypothetically, be useful in very rare cases)?
I mean, I know that when all you have is a
hammergun, all problems look likenailsgun targets, but frankly, I'd hope that cops are better trained than that.Shooting to break a window is an extension of both shooting and window-breaking. I'd wish all cops were trained on shooting accurately. And I also wish that all cops were familiar with how to break windows safely.
But, you know, some places don't even teach them to shoot straight. And I don't know of any police force that's taught how to break car windows (though I don't deny that there may be some). Let alone by using non-issued objects. (Or repurposing the issued ones in an un-official capacity.)
Like I said, if I could wish for a proper toolkit to every accident site... But it's not going to happen. And now a man died.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
@remi said in In other news today...:
@acrow said in In other news today...:
I'm no gun expert, but the latter seems... a very bad idea, to say the least (well if you kill the person inside I guess you don't have to worry about extracting them anymore...).
How so? If the side windows are tempered glass (as they should be), then any hole should shatter the glass completely. And even if they're not, you can proceed to smash the rest once the bullets crack enough of it.
Also, a pro-tip: Aim at the dashboard. It doesn't matter which part of the window the initial crack is at. You don't need to aim at the people inside.
I have a strong suspicion that if you were to post that suggestion in another of the garage threads, and under an alias that isn't known as One of Us, you would get less than sympathetic responses.
I doubt it, but we'd have to see. There's precedent in breaking car windows by firing a gun, in an emergency. One case that I remember was a car that'd fallen into a river. A helper got to the car, but was unable to open the door (due to the water pressure). He had a gun on hand. IIRC the lives of 2 kids were saved.
I have no specific expertise about it, but really, shooting to the inside of an enclosed space, in a situation where said space may even be filled with smoke (at the very least there is probably smoke around that space, since the scenario is a car burning), and you don't know exactly how the occupants are laid out (are you sure no one was projected upon the dashboard by the impact?), well, if that doesn't sound like a bad idea to you, I'm not sure what will.
To me, leaving the occupants into a burning car, while you run to fetch a hammer, sounds worse.
Of course, if I were in that situation and had both a hammer and a gun, then I'd try the hammer first. But it's all in what the situation demands and what you have at hand.
When an emergency happens, we might as well wish for full complement of car-opening tools. But when seconds matter, you only have what's in your pockets and nothing else.
Sure, if the cop is carrying that, and if it's designed for breaking car windows. Not all police carry one. But all of them carry guns.
:well_there's_your_problem:Go and equip your cops better.Not my cops. I'm not from the U.S.. But do note that there's a limit to how much equipment a cop can carry. So precincts have to make compromises and tradeoffs. E.g. do you issue them Tasers or Naloxone.
Also, a tonfa or normal baton won't cut it. Modern car windows are hard. A collapsible may give enough of an impact to crack tempered glass. But you have to know exactly where to hit.
What's more likely, that a cop has been trained to use a baton to break a window (i.e. something that might be useful in many situations, either rescue or arrest), or that the same cop has been trained to shoot at the inside of a car in a way that will in no way hurt any of the occupants but still break a window (i.e. something that might, maybe, hypothetically, be useful in very rare cases)?
I mean, I know that when all you have is a
hammergun, all problems look likenailsgun targets, but frankly, I'd hope that cops are better trained than that.Shooting to break a window is an extension of both shooting and window-breaking. I'd wish all cops were trained on shooting accurately. And I also wish that all cops were familiar with how to break windows safely.
But, you know, some places don't even teach them to shoot straight. And I don't know of any police force that's taught how to break car windows (though I don't deny that there may be some). Let alone by using non-issued objects. (Or repurposing the issued ones in an un-official capacity.)
Like I said, if I could wish for a proper toolkit to every accident site... But it's not going to happen. And now a man died.
Not sure how prevalent automobiles are where you live.
But here in northern New Jersey, everyone drives everywhere and as a result, cops respond to a lot of motor vehicle accidents. Cops here are absolutely trained on how to use the baton on their utility belt to break a safety glass window.
I'm the furthest thing from a gun control guy. But I'd much rather the cop smash the window with his club than shoot it with his gun. It's a lot safer that way.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
But, you know, some places don't even teach them to shoot straight. And I don't know of any police force that's taught how to break car windows (though I don't deny that there may be some). Let alone by using non-issued objects. (Or repurposing the issued ones in an un-official capacity.)
A friend of my family is a deputy in a remote part of the state, they are all trained for light extractions (so manual breaker bars/equipment, no hydraulics).
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in In other news today...:
But here in northern New Jersey, everyone drives everywhere and as a result, cops respond to a lot of motor vehicle accidents. Cops here are absolutely trained on how to use the baton on their utility belt to break a safety glass window.
I'm not an expert on cop batons or breaking car windows, but AIUI (and as seen in the video
) a blunt instrument won't do much against a car window. Do cop batons have a sharp point that they can use?
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@hungrier said in In other news today...:
@GuyWhoKilledBear said in In other news today...:
But here in northern New Jersey, everyone drives everywhere and as a result, cops respond to a lot of motor vehicle accidents. Cops here are absolutely trained on how to use the baton on their utility belt to break a safety glass window.
I'm not an expert on cop batons or breaking car windows, but AIUI (and as seen in the video
) a blunt instrument won't do much against a car window. Do cop batons have a sharp point that they can use?Maybe it's a jab rather than a baseball swing?
I don't know the technique, I just know that they do it.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
@remi said in In other news today...:
@acrow said in In other news today...:
Smashing the window might have still been a good idea. Most people can be pulled out through one by a couple of reasonably fit officers.
But you need a sharp, heavy implement to break a window from the outside. Or a pistol. But the police on the scene may not have been familiar enough with firearms to consider that.Do you mean "a pistol to use as a sharp, heavy implement" or "a pistol to shoot a hole in the window?"
To shoot, of course. Unless you're out of bullets, then using one as a club is singularly pointless.
I'm no gun expert, but the latter seems... a very bad idea, to say the least (well if you kill the person inside I guess you don't have to worry about extracting them anymore...).
How so? If the side windows are tempered glass (as they should be), then any hole should shatter the glass completely. And even if they're not, you can proceed to smash the rest once the bullets crack enough of it.
Also, a pro-tip: Aim at the dashboard. It doesn't matter which part of the window the initial crack is at. You don't need to aim at the people inside.
And the former... around here policemen (who wear a gun) usually carry some sort of (collapsible) crowd-control baton, whatever you call it (tonfa or some variation). That's probably a much better implement to use to break a window (heck, it's probably even designed for that when e.g. they have to extract an unwilling driver from a car!) than a gun. So I don't really think that a gun is of much use in this scenario.
Sure, if the cop is carrying that, and if it's designed for breaking car windows. Not all police carry one. But all of them carry guns.
Also, a tonfa or normal baton won't cut it. Modern car windows are hard. A collapsible may give enough of an impact to crack tempered glass. But you have to know exactly where to hit.
Here's a video demonstrating both the hardness of car windows, and of the correct way to break the glass:
News Reporter Can't Break Into Car FAIL! – 01:51
— racing4thewinA bullet is somewhat likely to deflect, passing through a substance. Are you still firing near people?
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@hungrier said in In other news today...:
Ice on the doors? What do you mean, that never happens in California, the only place in the world
Lake Tahoe, California:
Oh wait, can a Tesla actually make that drive without requiring several stops to recharge? (Yes several - because traffic out of Silly Valley and thru Sacramento is that bad.)
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@GuyWhoKilledBear From what I've seen of videos of police extracting unwilling suspects from vehicles, they use a (steel?) bar that's shorter than a crowd-control baton. The videos never really give a good view of the tool, but it sometimes looks like there may be a little tooth on the end to help crack the glass. They swing with short, sharp strokes, more like hitting with a hammer than swinging a baseball bat. And it usually takes several hits to break the window.
Another thing they sometimes do with dark-tinted windows is to use a less-lethal shotgun to put a bean-bag round through the windows so they can see what the suspects are doing in the vehicle. Sometimes, the windows are so dark they can't even see how many people are in the vehicle, much less whether they have weapons, so they'll take out the windows from a safe (for the police) distance. I'm pretty sure they wouldn't do that at close range though, like a rescue, because point-blank, even a less-lethal firearm isn't much less lethal.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in In other news today...:
But I'd much rather the cop smash the window with his club than shoot it with his gun. It's a lot safer that way.
Yes, of course, and I'm not sure if anybody is arguing against this. A brick through the window is safer than shooting it. But if it's between shooting the window and looking on while somebody burns inside a car, I'm on the shooting side of things.
As said, my window smashing experience is a bit limited, so somebody else has to say whether or not smashing car windows with a handgun is a viable option.
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A Nation Conceived in Liberty Confronts Its Queasiness With the "MILF Mobile"
The Maine Legislature recently passed a bill aimed at banning “vulgar” vanity license plates.
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
A Nation Conceived in Liberty Confronts Its Queasiness With the “MILF Mobile”
As a nation, y’all have been shooting your guns in the air while being puritanically afraid of the dangers of seeing an exposed nipple. Nothing new.
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@topspin Take that to the garage.
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@antiquarian said in In other news today...:
@topspin Take that to the garage.
All controversial issues per the community standards of controversial go to the garage.
The actions of established community members are beyond question, if you were wondering why there's no issue taken with the OP.
Is this an unfair summary, curator? Is it unfactual?
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@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
@antiquarian said in In other news today...:
@topspin Take that to the garage.
All controversial issues per the community standards of controversial go to the garage.
The actions of established community members are beyond question, if you were wondering why there's no issue taken with the OP.
Is this an unfair summary, curator? Is it unfactual?
Ah, the scent of cowardice. Smells like... sedition.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in In other news today...:
Not sure how prevalent automobiles are where you live.
Very prevalent. Distances are long here.
But here in northern New Jersey, everyone drives everywhere and as a result, cops respond to a lot of motor vehicle accidents. Cops here are absolutely trained on how to use the baton on their utility belt to break a safety glass window.
Cop training is in the U.S. is a very mixed bag. Some places just hand out a uniform and a gun and send them out. Other places have an actual police academy.
I'll add How to Break Car Windows to the list of cources that I wish all cops had taken. Right after Basic First aid and Small Unit Tactics.
I'm the furthest thing from a gun control guy. But I'd much rather the cop smash the window with his club than shoot it with his gun. It's a lot safer that way.
No dispute. And never said any. But if the cop in TFA had a suitable baton and knew how to wield it, we wouldn't be talking about this now.
This whole conversation started with me lamenting that he didn't know how to shoot out the window. And only because the gun is the one thing that I know every cop has on them. If it were shown that the cop had a dedicated window-club on him and didn't use it, I'd probably now be lamenting their lack of training and accountability.
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
But if it's between shooting the window and looking on while somebody burns inside a car, I'm on the shooting side of things.
The problem with this kind of scenario is that it's rarely, if ever, that clear-cut.
Even in the story that started this thread, we don't know if the cop stood by with crossed arms watching the car burn and lamenting "oh, if only I had something to break the window!" More likely he was frantically searching for how to open the doors, or for something to break the window with. And maybe he even thought of his gun but though "that's too dangerous, maybe there's a rock just over there" or "the fire brigade is approaching." Conversely, if he had shot and hurt (or killed) the passengers, and it turned out there had been another way to get in (maybe another officer approaching who had a suitable window-breaking implement), the cop would have had huge problems -- not only, or maybe not at all, from the law, but very likely psychologically as well ("I killed someone I could have saved by just thinking a bit more" isn't something nice to live with -- and before you comment about what he actually did, remember the 1st and 2nd laws).
So I stand by my opinion, I'm glad that cops aren't shooting at cars to help their (peaceful) occupants out. Even if in that specific case it could, maybe, hypothetically, if everything worked like in a movie, have helped.
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Coffee drinkers, be aware of a looming threat:
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@BernieTheBernie said in In other news today...:
Coffee drinkers, be aware of a looming threat:
I understand lockdowns, magic face paper and people dying left and right, but this is going too far!
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@MrL said in In other news today...:
I understand ...., but this is going too far!
It's simple:
Covid bad. Covid really bad. Covid bad really bad!
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HIV vaccine trial starts at Oxford | University of Oxford
The University of Oxford today started vaccinations of a novel HIV vaccine candidate as part of a Phase I clinical trial in the UK.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
HIV vaccine trial starts at Oxford | University of Oxford
The University of Oxford today started vaccinations of a novel HIV vaccine candidate as part of a Phase I clinical trial in the UK.
What's the conspiracy claim? You trying to just post about science or something?
I need to know how many chips, and how they [ tell if I'm / make me ] gay. That kinda stuff.
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@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
I need to know how many chips, and how
It’s from the UK, so probably ARM based. If you’re on an x86 architecture you’re SOL.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
I need to know how many chips, and how
It’s from the UK, so probably ARM based. If you’re on an x86 architecture you’re SOL.
Well I mean ARM makes more sense here anyway
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
Right after Basic First aid and Small Unit Tactics.
Before all of this, they should receive training on the US constitution
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
@acrow said in In other news today...:
Right after Basic First aid and Small Unit Tactics.
Before all of this, they should receive training on the US constitution
This may be able to be more focused, although being able to incorporate as a state as long as I can find a cop, would sometimes be handy.
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@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
Well I mean ARM makes more sense here anyway
Yes, vaccines are usually given in the ARM.
Also, being in the UK, the chips come with a side of FSH.
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@Zecc said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
Well I mean ARM makes more sense here anyway
Yes, vaccines are usually given in the ARM.
Also, being in the UK, the chips come with a side of FSH.
Can you supply a conspiratorial origin for this FSH? I want to think I know what I'm doing here.
Probably good news for everyone, since UK chips are all fried.
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@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
Well I mean ARM makes more sense here anyway
Does it? I would expect a HIV vaccine taking the backdoor ...
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@Luhmann said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
Well I mean ARM makes more sense here anyway
Does it? I would expect a HIV vaccine taking the backdoor ...
Those Ring -3 type of coprocessors are often also ARM.
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@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
Can you supply a conspiratorial origin for this FSH?
Northeast Atlantic ocean, or possibly the northwest Atlantic or Arctic oceans. Which is a strange place indeed to get FSH from.
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SF/Fantasy Bookstore Sues Neighboring Hotel, Includes Comic Book Version of Factual Allegations in Amended Complaint
You can read the whole Complaint, in Criss-A-Less, Inc. d/b/a Third Planet Sci-Fi & Fantasy Superstore v. ASDN Houston, LLC...
V. ORIGIN STORY
- Defendant, Pacifica has previously filed special exceptions, complaining that it could not sufficiently understand the claims and allegations against it. To aid in clarifying the facts of this case, plaintiffs provide the facts in illustrated form.
- Defendant, Pacifica has previously filed special exceptions, complaining that it could not sufficiently understand the claims and allegations against it. To aid in clarifying the facts of this case, plaintiffs provide the facts in illustrated form.
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
Defendant, Pacifica has previously filed special exceptions, complaining that it could not sufficiently understand the claims and allegations against it.
Isn't that their own damn fault? Hire a better lawyer?
Also, from the linked articles there was one that's also interesting, but might be garage material:
You Can Now Read the Secret Trump Administration Report That Claimed Your Toyota Is a National Security Threat
The never-released Trump administration report is a reminder that "national security" is usually a bogus reason to impose tariffs
Follicle-stimulating hormone - Wikipedia
