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@DogsB Users discovered the malware. Users are MS's QA. Job well done.
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@Dragoon's TFA said:
Their work could help develop materials for designing more powerful and efficient phones, computers and other electronics, as well as longer-lasting batteries.
I guess if there's no selling point, it won't get any funding. But they could also change the record from time to time.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in In other news today...:
I guess if there's no selling point, it won't get any funding. But they could also change the record from time to time.
It sounds like fundamental research, so quite a long way from all but the most specialist of applications. Probably get used first in understanding surface physics of some types of catalyst.
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Bing was supposed to be the Google killer.
Mission far from accomplished.
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
Bing was supposed to be the Google killer.
Mission far from accomplished.
Tbf DuckDuckGo is still "Let me Bing or wtfe that for you" vs having its own crawls and indices. The number of results coming from what indexes would be more indicative and is, as is traditional for such metrics, unavailable.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
@dcon said in In other news today...:
Oh shit.
A theory on the root cause (though horribly insensitive):
[Market-ticker guy's quotes removed]Seems there were no free-standing pilings on the ground floor of that part of the building, but there was an underground part which was in a rather dilapidated state:
The engineer, Frank Morabito, warned that the [pool] deck was not sloped to drain, so any water "sits on the waterproofing until it evaporates".
I'm sure that will be extra fun with slightly salty water thanks to the salt spray from the nearby sea...
Mr Morabito's report also referred to "abundant cracking… of columns, beams and walls" in the basement parking garage.
Although the report urged concrete repairs to be carried out in "a timely fashion", it didn't suggest the 40-year-old building was at any imminent risk of collapse.
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@JBert said in In other news today...:
@acrow said in In other news today...:
Seems there were no free-standing pilings on the ground floor of that part of the building, but there was an underground part which was in a rather dilapidated state:
When I first saw that photo, I thought the collapsed area was just a shearing off of the same thing as the left side of the building. No. It was an entire building. Security footage captured the collapse.
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@JBert quoted in In other news today...:
Mr Morabito's report also referred to "abundant cracking… of columns, beams and walls" in the basement parking garage.
That sounds very likely to be the core of the reason. Especially if the developer hadn't really put enough supports in. What actually triggered the collapse? No idea (it could even just be spontaneous), but the trigger isn't as interesting as the cause, since it was the cause that made the collapse possible and even probable. It's like whether you blame the lightning strike or the decades of mismanagement for the devastating forest fire…
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@dkf said in In other news today...:
@JBert quoted in In other news today...:
Mr Morabito's report also referred to "abundant cracking… of columns, beams and walls" in the basement parking garage.
That sounds very likely to be the core of the reason. Especially if the developer hadn't really put enough supports in. What actually triggered the collapse? No idea (it could even just be spontaneous), but the trigger isn't as interesting as the cause, since it was the cause that made the collapse possible and even probable. It's like whether you blame the lightning strike or the decades of mismanagement for the devastating forest fire…
Cracked concrete especially when combined with moisture means the rebar is going to rust. Rusting rebar further cracks the concrete, which lets more moisture in, which accelerates the rusting. This weakens the structure.
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@PleegWat said in In other news today...:
@dkf said in In other news today...:
@JBert quoted in In other news today...:
Mr Morabito's report also referred to "abundant cracking… of columns, beams and walls" in the basement parking garage.
That sounds very likely to be the core of the reason. Especially if the developer hadn't really put enough supports in. What actually triggered the collapse? No idea (it could even just be spontaneous), but the trigger isn't as interesting as the cause, since it was the cause that made the collapse possible and even probable. It's like whether you blame the lightning strike or the decades of mismanagement for the devastating forest fire…
Cracked concrete especially when combined with moisture means the rebar is going to rust. Rusting rebar further cracks the concrete, which lets more moisture in, which accelerates the rusting. This weakens the structure.
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dll be interesting to see how this plays out with tension rods vs rebar.
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@Gribnit Like that bridge in Genua?
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@PleegWat said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit Like that bridge in Genua?
Quite possibly. Do they have a lot of bridges there, some rather new? The question of maintenance diligence seems already answered.
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Another major pistachio theft. Not a good sign.
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@Gribnit Likely this bridge:
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@JBert said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit Likely this bridge:
I like the frequent mentions of football. Very on-theme.
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@DoctorJones said in In other news today...:
@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
I can't wait for the UK rollout
Smile harder, I can hear you faking it.
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That made it a little strange because now the show was ahead of me and the show was going in somewhat different directions
Don't piss on us and call it rain. You saw the backlash to the direction you sent them in and scurried back to the drawing board. Just fucking die already so that we can blame Sanderson for this mess.
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That could only improve things at my day job.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
That made it a little strange because now the show was ahead of me and the show was going in somewhat different directions
Don't piss on us and call it rain. You saw the backlash to the direction you sent them in and scurried back to the drawing board. Just fucking die already so that we can blame Sanderson for this mess.
Serves you right, you should have known from the hat he wasn't a reliable author.
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@DogsB That article is from 3 years ago. Bayou doesn't appear to have put many programmers out of a job in 3+ years.
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Whoops. Wrong article
Also a Google not evil this time article.
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All the defense has to do is prove that they've never seen the other sculpture before making theirs.
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Another day, another
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@topspin
Owner'sslime moldlawyerthey're the same picture said:"Our client was trapped & could have died. "
No worries; he might have been badly hurt, but not killed. Because Dead Men Don't
WearDrive Plaid."We tried reaching out to Tesla & have been ignored so far."
A spokesperson for Tesla did not respond to a request for comment about the fire, which is unsurprising considering the company has dissolved its public relations department and hasn’t responded to any inquiry in the last two years.
“This is a harrowing and frightening situation and an obvious major problem,” said Mark Geragos, another attorney representing the owner.
Oh, him. His thread is .
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@topspin They're doing things the stupid way again. Electronic door handles which do not fail-safe without power. Instead you have to know that there are manual handles - granted, in case of the front doors they're located adjacent to the normal door opening buttons.
But in case of the rear seats you have to fold back the carpet under the rear seats and locate the lever there.
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Headline of the year contender.
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@DogsB 2020/21 bingo card...
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OT: upvoting the three previous posts grave me the "error: you had upvoted earlier" toaster.
Upvotes increased anyway.
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@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@topspin They're doing things the stupid way again. Electronic door handles which do not fail-safe without power. Instead you have to know that there are manual handles - granted, in case of the front doors they're located adjacent to the normal door opening buttons.
But in case of the rear seats you have to fold back the carpet under the rear seats and locate the lever there.
Luckily, all mammals do this instinctively when exposed to the odor of burning lithium.
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@Gribnit What does burning lithium smell like? The few times I've been close to (potentially) burning lithium, the smell of burning plastic has been the dominant feature.
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit What does burning lithium smell like? The few times I've been close to (potentially) burning lithium, the smell of burning plastic has been the dominant feature.
What do I look like, a mammal?
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit What does burning lithium smell like? The few times I've been close to (potentially) burning lithium, the smell of burning plastic has been the dominant feature.
My high school chemistry teacher specialised in inorganic chemistry because you can't smell it.
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@PleegWat said in In other news today...:
@cvi said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit What does burning lithium smell like? The few times I've been close to (potentially) burning lithium, the smell of burning plastic has been the dominant feature.
My high school chemistry teacher specialised in inorganic chemistry because you can't smell it.
Did you ever get a look at his hands, though? You can sure feel it sometimes.
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@PleegWat said in In other news today...:
@cvi said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit What does burning lithium smell like? The few times I've been close to (potentially) burning lithium, the smell of burning plastic has been the dominant feature.
My high school chemistry teacher specialised in inorganic chemistry because you can't smell it.
Chlorine gas begs to differ. Hydrogen sulfide as well.
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@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@PleegWat said in In other news today...:
@cvi said in In other news today...:
@Gribnit What does burning lithium smell like? The few times I've been close to (potentially) burning lithium, the smell of burning plastic has been the dominant feature.
My high school chemistry teacher specialised in inorganic chemistry because you can't smell it.
Chlorine gas begs to differ. Hydrogen sulfide as well.
Tin has a characteristic odor when burnt but it's not really as similar as is said.
And technically I don't think you can actually smell chlorine, but the immediately evolved acid educes a definite sensation, yes.
I object to the inclusion of hydrogen sulfide, aka nullathiol, in inorganic chemistry. You took nitrogen, be satisfied.
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@Rhywden True, but inorganic mostly doesn't smell as bad as organic. Everything in organic chem smells, and most of it smells bad.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@Rhywden True, but inorganic mostly doesn't smell as bad as organic. Everything in organic chem smells, and most of it smells bad.
Only half of it, more or less. The other half would much rather give you cancer.
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@Gribnit said in In other news today...:
@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@Rhywden True, but inorganic mostly doesn't smell as bad as organic. Everything in organic chem smells, and most of it smells bad.
Only half of it, more or less. The other half would much rather give you cancer.
For much of organic chem, it's definitely
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@Rhywden True, but inorganic mostly doesn't smell as bad as organic. Everything in organic chem smells, and most of it smells bad.
Only because you're using pure substances. If you combine it in the proper way you get the smell of roses. Or the smell of a steak. And by "combine" I don't mean a chemical reaction though those do change the smell too, of course.
Some people have had the misfortune of damaged olfactory receptors where only some of them work. So their food suddenly tastes like, e.g. benzene because their other receptors which would combine the smell of benzene with other substances to "smell of orange juice" don't work.
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@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@Rhywden True, but inorganic mostly doesn't smell as bad as organic. Everything in organic chem smells, and most of it smells bad.
Only because you're using pure substances. If you combine it in the proper way you get the smell of roses. Or the smell of a steak. And by "combine" I don't mean a chemical reaction though those do change the smell too, of course.
Some people have had the misfortune of damaged olfactory receptors where only some of them work. So their food suddenly tastes like, e.g. benzene because their other receptors which would combine the smell of benzene with other substances to "smell of orange juice" don't work.
It is of ultimate priority to develop this into a prank powder form. "Haha, you're in a temporary Kafka hell!".
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@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
Only because you're using pure substances. If you combine it in the proper way you get the smell of roses.
How would you combine "in the proper way", say, thioacetone to get the smell of roses? Or anything not sickeningly awful? Or the worst thing I've ever personally smelled, cyclohexene?
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
Only because you're using pure substances. If you combine it in the proper way you get the smell of roses.
How would you combine "in the proper way", say, thioacetone to get the smell of roses? Or anything not sickeningly awful? Or the worst thing I've ever personally smelled, cyclohexene?
Use very, very little. In place for millennia, endorsed by Paracelsus. It's not just a good idea - it's the law if you want an olfactory sense.
Cyclohexene is an interesting one to mention here. It's a cyclic aliphatic, and has chirality, although iirc it spontaneously flips to some normal distribution. One more chiral double bond and you get one of two dicyclos, but there's no chiral third, that's benzene, and as the first aromatic it has resonance over a flat ring.
Aliphatics, by and large, are, so are aromatics.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
Only because you're using pure substances. If you combine it in the proper way you get the smell of roses.
How would you combine "in the proper way", say, thioacetone to get the smell of roses? Or anything not sickeningly awful? Or the worst thing I've ever personally smelled, cyclohexene?
Don't know. But that's the way it works - if you eat / smell food different receptors for the various compounds are triggered and then combine to give the smell / taste of a steak. That's all your nose's doing, your tongue's receptors are only for the five basic tastes (sweet, sour, bitter, salty and umami) plus "hot/spicy" which is independant of that.
It's why people who have completely lost their sense of smell report being "dissatisfied" with eating whereas people with a partial loss or misdirection of smell can be close to suicidal.
And, please, it's a bit disingenuous to immediately jump to one of the worst examples. The point is that food contains plenty of smelly compounds which on their own may not be really pleasant. Hell, even the various esters (like "rum" or "ananas" aroma) on their own have this "artificial" smell to it.
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@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
But in case of the rear seats you have to fold back the carpet under the rear seats and locate the lever there.
Under a carpet meaning, on the floor? Mounted in that thin metal sheet between the rear passengers and the battery bay? And that handle's still supposed to work while the battery pack is burning?
Also, are there rear door child-locks in a Teslas? And if there are, then do the rear doors have any mechanical back-up on the outside?
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@acrow Didn't dig that deep into the Tesla manual. It's on page 15.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
But in case of the rear seats you have to fold back the carpet under the rear seats and locate the lever there.
Under a carpet meaning, on the floor? Mounted in that thin metal sheet between the rear passengers and the battery bay? And that handle's still supposed to work while the battery pack is burning?
Also, are there rear door child-locks in a Teslas? And if there are, then do the rear doors have any mechanical back-up on the outside?
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@acrow Didn't dig that deep into the Tesla manual. It's on page 15.
Instead of digging any further I’ll just
shitpostassume it’s Tesla and say “no”!
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@acrow said in In other news today...:
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
But in case of the rear seats you have to fold back the carpet under the rear seats and locate the lever there.
Under a carpet meaning, on the floor? Mounted in that thin metal sheet between the rear passengers and the battery bay? And that handle's still supposed to work while the battery pack is burning?
Also, are there rear door child-locks in a Teslas? And if there are, then do the rear doors have any mechanical back-up on the outside?
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
@acrow Didn't dig that deep into the Tesla manual. It's on page 15.
Instead of digging any further I’ll just
shitpostassume it’s Tesla and say “no”!
I threw myself on the hand grenade for you…
The levers are under the seats, not on the floorboards themselves. But yeah, probably not fun to get to when the battery pack has gone all Disco Inferno.
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So, according to the manual, there are child-safety locks on the rear doors. But it's a software lock, so I assume that it doesn't affect the "mechanical release cable".
Which may be good news since, child-lock or no, there's no way to open the doors from the outside if there's a fire. So if the battery catches fire, it's up to the adult to dive between the front seats to pull the mechanical release before exiting the burning vehicle. And hope that the door doesn't accidentally swing shut again before they can get to it from the outside to pull the kids out.
Unrelated to the above, from manual:
A light press on a door handle extends it provided Model S is unlocked and detects a phone key or key fob nearby.
Are these things actually strong enough to work when there's a layer of ice all over the car doors? Because I have some doubts...