What users say versus what they mean
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@Gurth said in What users say versus what they mean:
However, what percentage of non-Mac-users have a mouse that allows that,
I'd say there are probably a significant number of non-Mac users who have mice with tilt wheels.
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@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
Harold Dick
Grade school must have been hard for him.
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@PJH said in What users say versus what they mean:
@The_Quiet_One said in What users say versus what they mean:
The only thing that's missing is the "Y2K Compliant" sticker.
Since it's going to be another 996 years before it's an issue, I don't think it occurred to them...
But there's only 12 months, or occasionally 13, depending on your calendar, not 18.
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@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Luhmann said in What users say versus what they mean:
proper massage
I like the Chinese Tui na massage personally.
Gua sha for me.
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@Luhmann said in What users say versus what they mean:
a proper massage
@accalia would be proud of this one
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@djls45 said in What users say versus what they mean:
But there's only 12 months, or occasionally 13, depending on your calendar, not 18.
Nonsense. We have up to 31 months, each with 1-12 days.
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@Zecc said in What users say versus what they mean:
@levicki said in What users say versus what they mean:
- "File not found / Cannot open file / Error reading file" or any other variations thereof during program startup which cause it to close immediately -- Which file? Where were you looking for it?
- "Object reference not set to an instance of an object" at line of code which looks like
ref1.ref2.ref3.member
-- which fucking object?
"The given key was not present in the dictionary."
I hate this one so much I created a
VerboseDictionary
class that wraps a dictionary but includes the key in errors.Also, I agree with @levicki for #2: In my mind, any vanilla NullReferenceException is a bug in the function that throws it (it should have checked first and answered with either an ArgumentNullException or a non-vanilla NullReferenceException).
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@_P_ said in What users say versus what they mean:
They can typo the username too.
Hell. That's another reason I use a password manager. Because I can often never get my "standard" login name because it doesn't fit some heuristic. Typically, too short. ("Min 8 chars, we recommend (first initial)(last name)" Yeah, fuck you. That's less than 8 for me.)
I don't know how many different usernames I have across the umpteenbillion websites/etc that require a login...
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@hungrier They're taking the goalposts to Isengard!
Wait, that wasn't the Ent who said that...
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@topspin said in What users say versus what they mean:
that wasn't the
Ent@end
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@lolwhat said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
Harold Dick
Grade school must have been hard for him.
Probably his entire education and then some.
And it would be even funnier if he were an andrologist (TIL) but then I wouldn't have this mildly interesting story to tell.
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Got this screenshot in a bug report:
Guess what? We don't maintain Adobe Acrobat/Reader!
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@boomzilla said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Luhmann said in What users say versus what they mean:
proper massage
I like the Chinese Tui na massage personally.
Gua sha for me.
Hmm, after seeing this (mildly NSFW):.
https://www.metro.us/sites/default/files/main/articles/2017/10/24/gua-sha.jpg
I'm going to say, no.
Though, I've have had cupping and even have a cupping set at home. So it may not be as bad as it looks.
EDIT: why won't the image load? But
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@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
EDIT: why won't the image load? But
Not enough line feeds.
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@GÄ…ska said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
EDIT: why won't the image load? But
Not enough line feeds.
Got it.
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@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
@boomzilla said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Luhmann said in What users say versus what they mean:
proper massage
I like the Chinese Tui na massage personally.
Gua sha for me.
Hmm, after seeing this (mildly NSFW):.
https://www.metro.us/sites/default/files/main/articles/2017/10/24/gua-sha.jpg
I'm going to say, no.
Though, I've have had cupping and even have a cupping set at home. So it may not be as bad as it looks.
EDIT: why won't the image load? But
If you use the stainless steel things with oil then they don't really damage your skin like that. I have one of these:
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@Zecc said in What users say versus what they mean:
Not guilty, your honour.
It's odd. I've been bitten by my cat often enough - usually I deserved it or at least it's understandable on her part - and I've never bothered a medical professional over it, nor had any sign of infection. This is contrary to everything everyone says about cat bites. It clearly can't be the case that everyone else is either immunocompromised or just unlucky. Maybe I have a really clean cat?
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@PJH said in What users say versus what they mean:
We have up to 31 months, each with 1-12 days.
And the number of months in the year varies with what day of the month it is?
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@CarrieVS said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Zecc said in What users say versus what they mean:
Not guilty, your honour.
It's odd. I've been bitten by my cat often enough - usually I deserved it or at least it's understandable on her part - and I've never bothered a medical professional over it, nor had any sign of infection. This is contrary to everything everyone says about cat bites. It clearly can't be the case that everyone else is either immunocompromised or just unlucky. Maybe I have a really clean cat?
It's not usually the cat itself but a particular bacteria that tends to congregate on cat claws and teeth. Some people have little to no reaction to it if it gets introduced to their system, other people can have much more severe reactions.
Someone on another forum I frequent just lost their roommate to a severely bad reaction to that exact thing not too long ago. The reaction they had to it was basically on the extreme end of the scale and the hospital just couldn't get it back under control.
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@CarrieVS said in What users say versus what they mean:
It's odd. I've been bitten by my cat often enough - usually I deserved it or at least it's understandable on her part - and I've never bothered a medical professional over it, nor had any sign of infection. This is contrary to everything everyone says about cat bites.
And cat scratches. I read that you can get all kinds of hideous infections from them, yet up until about a year ago, my upper left arm was basically a network of fresh and healing cat scratches and scars from them. (I used to have two cats who liked to be picked up and lie on my arm, but grabbed hold of that arm with their front claws for stability and/or because they were comfortable.) I’ve not had any infection whatsoever from this, let alone keeled over dead from the apparently life-threatening injuries. And yes, these cats could and did go outside and roam gardens, streets. etc. any time they liked.
Come to think of it, I showed the scratches to my GP once and he didn’t comment on them being dangerous at all — he just asked if I had cats. (I didn’t go there because of them, I had to get some blood taken, and I showed him the scratches as a way of saying I didn’t think I was going to be overly troubled by the needle.)
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@CarrieVS said in What users say versus what they mean:
It's odd. I've been bitten by my cat often enough - usually I deserved it or at least it's understandable on her part - and I've never bothered a medical professional over it, nor had any sign of infection. This is contrary to everything everyone says about cat bites.
Maybe you're fine, but did you bring your cat to the vet? I've heard that biting a WTDWTF user can cause very nasty infections.
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@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
Hmm, after seeing this (mildly NSFW):.
https://www.metro.us/sites/default/files/main/articles/2017/10/24/gua-sha.jpg
Reminds me of this (possibly mildly NSFW):
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@No_1 said in What users say versus what they mean:
Reminds me of this (possibly mildly NSFW):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BD6h-wDj7bw@GÄ…ska said in What users say versus what they mean:
Not enough line feeds.
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@PJH – Was fixing it as you replied. Should be OK now.
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@Zerosquare said in What users say versus what they mean:
Maybe you're fine, but did you bring your cat to the vet? I've heard that biting a WTDWTF user can cause very nasty infections.
She seems healthy. Although she did develop a tooth problem once and had to have one of her canines removed. Now she only makes three holes.
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@dcon said in What users say versus what they mean:
@_P_ said in What users say versus what they mean:
They can typo the username too.
Hell. That's another reason I use a password manager. Because I can often never get my "standard" login name because it doesn't fit some heuristic. Typically, too short. ("Min 8 chars, we recommend (first initial)(last name)" Yeah, fuck you. That's less than 8 for me.)
I don't know how many different usernames I have across the umpteenbillion websites/etc that require a login...
Tsaukpaetra works great!
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(Now he's referring to himself using the third person. I think his job finally made him snap. Poor @Tsaukpaetra )
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@Zerosquare said in What users say versus what they mean:
(Now he's referring to himself using the third person. I think his job finally made him snap. Poor @Tsaukpaetra )
Email support?
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@CarrieVS said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Zecc said in What users say versus what they mean:
Not guilty, your honour.
It's odd. I've been bitten by my cat often enough - usually I deserved it or at least it's understandable on her part - and I've never bothered a medical professional over it, nor had any sign of infection. This is contrary to everything everyone says about cat bites. It clearly can't be the case that everyone else is either immunocompromised or just unlucky. Maybe I have a really clean cat?
It depends on where they bite you. I've been bitten before in the meat of my palm near my thumb. This one was in the ring finger near the joint. Doc's told me that does make a difference.
And trust me, I wasn't bothering a medical professional. It happened on a Wednesday. Friday morning I almost passed out in the shower.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in What users say versus what they mean:
I must
containsKey()
andget()
if it does, doing the lookup twice?No, because that's a race condition.
@Applied-Mediocrity said in What users say versus what they mean:
MEHs don't really run outside of Visual Studio, so how would that help in the field?
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@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
And trust me, I wasn't bothering a medical professional. It happened on a Wednesday. Friday morning I almost passed out in the shower.
I beg your pardon, I didn't mean to imply any lack of necessity. By "bother a medical professional" I meant "require their services."
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@CarrieVS said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
And trust me, I wasn't bothering a medical professional. It happened on a Wednesday. Friday morning I almost passed out in the shower.
I beg your pardon, I didn't mean to imply any lack of necessity. By "bother a medical professional" I meant "require their services."
I know, I thought it was funny to imply.
Clearly, I'm not as funny as I like to think I am.
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@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
@CarrieVS said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
And trust me, I wasn't bothering a medical professional. It happened on a Wednesday. Friday morning I almost passed out in the shower.
I beg your pardon, I didn't mean to imply any lack of necessity. By "bother a medical professional" I meant "require their services."
I know, I thought it was funny to imply.
Clearly, I'm not as funny as I like to think I am.
Once again - and at risk of compounding my fault - I can only apologise. I am shockingly incompetent at knowing when people are joking. I tend to err on the side of looking stupid myself by taking a joke seriously, rather than hurting someone else's feelings by mocking something serious.
It doesn't always work.
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@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
Clearly, I'm not as funny as I like to think I am.
Welcome to TDWTF.
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@TwelveBaud said in What users say versus what they mean:
No, because that's a race condition.
Not if you know that the object is only used from a single thread. Still, it's better to not put nulls in your dictionaries/maps anyway. You (usually) can, but don't, just as you usually can get away with running out onto a side-street without looking…
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@CarrieVS said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
@CarrieVS said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
And trust me, I wasn't bothering a medical professional. It happened on a Wednesday. Friday morning I almost passed out in the shower.
I beg your pardon, I didn't mean to imply any lack of necessity. By "bother a medical professional" I meant "require their services."
I know, I thought it was funny to imply.
Clearly, I'm not as funny as I like to think I am.
Once again - and at risk of compounding my fault - I can only apologise. I am shockingly incompetent at knowing when people are joking. I tend to err on the side of looking stupid myself by taking a joke seriously, rather than hurting someone else's feelings by mocking something serious.
It doesn't always work.
No worries and no need to apologize. Text makes it harder read cues.
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@boomzilla said in What users say versus what they mean:
Got this screenshot in a bug report:
Guess what? We don't maintain Adobe Acrobat/Reader!
I misread that the first time:
There is a problem with Adobe Acrobat/Reader.
If itIt is running...Yes, that might be a problem.
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@CarrieVS said in What users say versus what they mean:
I tend to err on the side of looking stupid myself by taking a joke seriously, rather than hurting someone else's feelings by mocking something serious.
I do the same thing.
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@TwelveBaud said in What users say versus what they mean:
MEHs don't really run outside of Visual Studio, so how would that help in the field?
Not really, I suppose. People kept asking for it (for many years) and it was added. Perhaps if people keep pestering them, KeyNotFound and IndexOutOfRange will be amended, too. So far it has helped me exactly one time, with a pants-on-head type of a mistake (and lots of code-golfing).
Ideally we'd want folks who don't do any of that, avoid nulls and/or check for them extensively, check for keys and range validity beforehand and properly synchronize their threading, or it's, say, three days duty of scrubbing kitchen pots in the Guild's chapterhouse.
Imagine how clean all the things would be...@dkf said in What users say versus what they mean:
You (usually) can, but don't
I can vaguely imagine some valid use cases. But even without them
null
value can easily come from a bug somewhere else and cause mischief later.
Res ipsa loquitur tabula in naufragio, .нет > Ява@dkf said:
without looking…
Which side should I look first? Left
(value == null)
or right(null == value)
?
What if a racing trolleybus appears while I'm looking to the other side?Sorry, I'll see to those pots right away, sir.
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@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
No worries and no need to apologize. Text makes it harder read cues.
I assure you I'm no better at it face to face.
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in What users say versus what they mean:
I can vaguely imagine some valid use cases.
Yes, so can I. I wasn't stating an absolute rule, more of just a guideline as to whether a design is in a happy place or not.
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@dkf said in What users say versus what they mean:
I wasn't stating an absolute rule
Only !Sith does !talk in absolutes
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@CarrieVS said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
No worries and no need to apologize. Text makes it harder read cues.
I assure you I'm no better at it face to face.
I'm sure we're all experts at social interaction.
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@Polygeekery said in What users say versus what they mean:
@CarrieVS said in What users say versus what they mean:
I tend to err on the side of looking stupid myself by taking a joke seriously, rather than hurting someone else's feelings by mocking something serious.
I do the same thing.
I could go either way.
I used to hate to ask questions for fear looking dumb. As I've gotten older, I'm much better at being self-deprecating.
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@loopback0 said in What users say versus what they mean:
@CarrieVS said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
No worries and no need to apologize. Text makes it harder read cues.
I assure you I'm no better at it face to face.
I'm sure we're all experts at social interaction.
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@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
@loopback0 said in What users say versus what they mean:
@CarrieVS said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
No worries and no need to apologize. Text makes it harder read cues.
I assure you I'm no better at it face to face.
I'm sure we're all experts at social interaction.
True and false. I like it!
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@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Polygeekery said in What users say versus what they mean:
@CarrieVS said in What users say versus what they mean:
I tend to err on the side of looking stupid myself by taking a joke seriously, rather than hurting someone else's feelings by mocking something serious.
I do the same thing.
I could go either way.
I used to hate to ask questions for fear looking dumb. As I've gotten older, I'm much better at being self-deprecating.
So literally no one got the joke that this is the exact opposite of what I do.
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@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
No worries and no need to apologize. Text makes it harder read cues.
You sound like you could've just yelled "r/whooosh" loudly like those annoying kids on youtube everywhere nowadays with that. At least you'll get the Internet Cool Pointsâ„¢ that way.
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@Polygeekery said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Karla said in What users say versus what they mean:
@Polygeekery said in What users say versus what they mean:
@CarrieVS said in What users say versus what they mean:
I tend to err on the side of looking stupid myself by taking a joke seriously, rather than hurting someone else's feelings by mocking something serious.
I do the same thing.
I could go either way.
I used to hate to ask questions for fear looking dumb. As I've gotten older, I'm much better at being self-deprecating.
So literally no one got the joke that this is the exact opposite of what I do.
I was making my own joke.
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@boomzilla said in What users say versus what they mean:
Guess what? We don't maintain Adobe Acrobat/Reader!
That's OK, neither does Adobe...