The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant
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As we all know, in the Terminator mythology, Kyle Reese goes back in time to try to stop or destroy the AI that will eventually become Skynet. And it never works, because you can never stop the progress of technology and you somehow leave a trail that future robots can find.
But what if… you could pervert technology, such that AI could never… ever… be developed. Say you were to poison engineering practices and create unusable tools at key moments in history, that would effectively cause a technological regression -- and prevent any future generation from being able to develop anything other than basic applications with software.
I think… I think… we’re already there. Let’s consider the technological regression of software right now:
- Development environments; the concept of a “press the green play button and debug” is quickly fading, and will become a Tool of the Ancients that no one will believe ever existed; instead, we’re seeing world-class tools like Visual Studio be replaced with wooooooowiiee-I-can-hack-a-text-editor-in-javasrcript-guuuuyzzzz garbage like Atom, Visual Studio Code, etc.
- Instant Messenger/Chat; this is basically dead. AIM circa 2002 was probably the best we’ve had to date; it was an open protocol, and tools like Pidgin or Trillian could be used. Everyone has since closed protocols, and we’re stuck with bloated garbage clients like Slack, Teams, etc. that use the CPU fan to indicate new messages are incoming.
- Web forums; enough said.
All told, we have been moving backwards in features and functions while requiring much more hardware. That’s not how it’s supposed to work.
About the only explanation I can come up with is that time travelers from the dystopian future used some Inception-like device to implant ideas into folks like Brendan Eich, Dennis Ritchie, and Linus Torvalds.
The advancement of the UNIX/Linux mindset of “nothing is intuitive, CLI or GTFO” -- combined with the “modern” development practices -- means that writing code as a job is becoming less and less accessible to people who would otherwise be great software developers, because they simply don’t want to memorize obscure commands and quirks for the shitpile of tools required today.
Also, consider what where the great minds in computer science are going; Anders Hejlsberg is dedicating his brainpower to making TypeScript… which simply makes JavaScript suck less. Imagine what he could be doing if not for Javascript.
And now, I'm going to go back to figuring out how to use the 3 different copies of OneNote I have to keep in sync; Office 2016 is, thus far, the least usable since 2003.
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@apapadimoulis said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
Trillian
I miss so much having one fucking messenger for all of the damn networks. Fuck MS/skype,facebook, apple and google for closing everything, not just IM. Now i just don't use instant messaging :/
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@swayde said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@apapadimoulis said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
Trillian
I miss so much having one fucking messenger for all of the damn networks. Fuck MS/skype,facebook, apple and google for closing everything, not just IM. Now i just don't use instant messaging :/
This sentiment is recently why I got somewhat miffed at Google for splitting SMS support for non-Voice numbers out of the Hangouts app on Android. Used to be able to text anyone regardless of which number I used from one app, now I have to use two, the fuckers.
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@swayde said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
one fucking messenger for all of the damn networks. Fuck MS/skype,facebook, apple and google for closing everything, not just IM. Now i just don't use instant messaging :/
Wow grandpa, you're telling me you used to send each other "instant messages" ? Ever since Update 2043, everyone just writes a note on a piece of paper and sends a picture of it. My phone can last a full 3 hours without plugging it in that way.
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@apapadimoulis said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
we’re seeing world-class tools like Visual Studio be replaced with wooooooowiiee-I-can-hack-a-text-editor-in-javasrcript-guuuuyzzzz garbage like Atom, Visual Studio Code, etc.
while we struggle with cheap/free shitty tools they spend millions on oracle enterprisey shit.
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Yup, I've been saying for a few years that the "great robot uprising" couldn't happen due to the industry's collective incompetence. Guess I was right...
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@arantor
So, you're saying PHP is really just safety against Skynet?
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@izzion said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@arantor
So, you're saying PHP is really just safety against Skynet?JavaScript is more the defence as it was around earlier.
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@arantor I'd the entire idea of web applications was created as defense against skynet
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@apapadimoulis said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
The advancement of the UNIX/Linux mindset of “nothing is intuitive, CLI or GTFO” -- combined with the “modern” development practices -- means that writing code as a job is becoming less and less accessible to people who would otherwise be great software developers, because they simply don’t want to memorize obscure commands and quirks for the shitpile of tools required today.
Well... There's always visual programming!
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@apapadimoulis said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
The advancement of the UNIX/Linux mindset of “nothing is intuitive, CLI or GTFO” -- combined with the “modern” development practices -- means that writing code as a job is becoming less and less accessible to people who would otherwise be great software developers, because they simply don’t want to memorize obscure commands and quirks for the shitpile of tools required today.
It's almost as if someone saw that Linux software was hard to use but generally worked without issues once you figure it out, that Windows software was easy to use but third-party software broke if you looked at it wrong, and that websites were written in JavaScript that required more compatibility shims than code but are pretty well sandboxed, and then they took the wrong half of each.
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@ben_lubar said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@apapadimoulis said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
The advancement of the UNIX/Linux mindset of “nothing is intuitive, CLI or GTFO” -- combined with the “modern” development practices -- means that writing code as a job is becoming less and less accessible to people who would otherwise be great software developers, because they simply don’t want to memorize obscure commands and quirks for the shitpile of tools required today.
It's almost as if someone saw that Linux software was hard to use but generally worked without issues once you figure it out, that Windows software was easy to use but third-party software broke if you looked at it wrong, and that websites were written in JavaScript that required more compatibility shims than code but are pretty well sandboxed, and then they took the wrong half of each.
Reminds me of this joke:
Heaven is where the police are British, the cooks are French, the
mechanics German, the lovers Italian and it's all organised by the
Swiss. Hell is where the chefs are British, the mechanics French, the
lover's Swiss, the police German and it's all organised by the Italians.I was going to paraphrase it with programmers, but it seems i can't be bothered.
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@atazhaia I grew up using Clickteam Fusion. It was my first introduction to programming before I started learning C++. I went on to make extensions for that software, in fact. I agree it is definitely very limited, but it's also an incredibly powerful learning tool. But visual programming isn't the way to write all software, for sure.
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Yeah, instead of developing cool and awesome stuff (like skynet), we're instead stuck with people writing the next awesome version of modules like "is-positive-zero" and "left-pad".
Also, what's up with all those JS-based editors? It feels like people read the complaints about bloated and slow text editors (and possibly old jokes about emacs), and then went like "one sec, hold my beer".
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@lb_ Clickteam Fusion (or more precisely: The Games Factory) was my first introduction to programming too. A friend picked it up for cheap in a sale so we had some fun making games in it. My second was a basic Web Design and Programming course in school, where I got to learn plain HTML 1.0 in Notepad () and very basic C using an old DOS code editor. Also, the year was 2000.
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@apapadimoulis said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
The advancement of the UNIX/Linux mindset of “nothing is intuitive, CLI or GTFO” -- combined with the “modern” development practices -- means that writing code as a job is becoming less and less accessible to people who would otherwise be great software developers, because they simply don’t want to memorize obscure commands and quirks for the shitpile of tools required today.
That's a really concise way to put something I complain about every fucking day.
Back in the 1990s, we had accountants or doctors or auto mechanics taking a look at software like HyperCard or Filemaker or Access or maybe even Visual Basic and saying "well, hell, I can make my own software for my needs..." In fact, all of the most commercially successful HyperCard programs were made by people who were not trained as programmers. (Except The Manhole, which was a collaboration between a programmer and a anthropology major. Also one of the most beautiful pieces of software ever created.)
That's long dead now.
Geeky Geek Unix Geeky Geeks saw the software created on Access or what-not and said to themselves, "wow this is bad, we should totally take this out of the user's hands so they can't make stuff this bad" while utterly ignoring:
- The "bad" software solved real fucking problems, and
- Misuse of software is a fault of the software itself-- if people were making spaghetti code in Access, that just means that Access has design flaws that should be rectified, not that we should give up on the concept forever! "Oh this hammer did a bad job of driving those nails." "That's IT! Throw all hammers into the garbage forever! Go back to driving nails with rocks and unusually hard turtle shells!"
@apapadimoulis said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
And now, I'm going to go back to figuring out how to use the 3 different copies of OneNote I have to keep in sync; Office 2016 is, thus far, the least usable since 2003.
The worst part is even Microsoft who used to be one of the good guys is down the rabbit hole of open-source-y shit practices now. Apple went there in 2001, now Microsoft's followed, now there's literally no large companies left producing decent software. All the lessons are forgotten, nobody standing on the shoulder of giants-- in fact they're proud that they've never used or even heard of the products those giants created!
I hate IT.
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@apapadimoulis said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@swayde said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
one fucking messenger for all of the damn networks. Fuck MS/skype,facebook, apple and google for closing everything, not just IM. Now i just don't use instant messaging :/
Wow grandpa, you're telling me you used to send each other "instant messages" ? Ever since Update 2043, everyone just writes a note on a piece of paper and sends a picture of it. My phone can last a full 3 hours without plugging it in that way.
My circle of friends has devolved to a giant fucking email chain with everybody on it and SMS for other matters. S M fucking S. In 2 0 1 7.
And even THAT email routinely breaks because Gmail stops collapsing quoted text at random intervals and some poor bastard has to go in and select hundreds of messages worth of quoted text and delete it. Usually on a goddamn phone.
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@blakeyrat said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
The worst part is even Microsoft who used to be one of the good guys is down the rabbit hole of open-source-y shit practices now. Apple went there in 2001, now Microsoft's followed, now there's literally no large companies left producing decent software. All the lessons are forgotten, nobody standing on the shoulder of giants-- in fact they're proud that they've never used or even heard of the products those giants created!
Frankly, I'm afraid TFS is going to die soon, replaced by a Microsoft hosted Github clone.
I'm doing every single thing I can to put myself on an employment trajectory where I am not going to deal with code anymore. Even indirectly. I'll manage the stupid meatsacks and inane business problems. It's, frankly, easier. And someone with my personality should NEVER find that to be true.
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@blakeyrat said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
The worst part is even Microsoft who used to be one of the good guys is down the rabbit hole of open-source-y shit practices now.
As opposed to when they were/are doing closed-source-y shit practices? MS aren't any less bad than anyone else, just a different kind of bad. See: Win9x, Windows Update, Modern UI/everything is a tablet, Win10 built-in adware, etc...
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You're definition of "bad" is a billion miles away from mine if "being closed source" is even slightly a factor.
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@blakeyrat They key words here are "shit practices" and they exist, in various forms, in both open and closed sources. And to paraphrase you: Your definition of "bad" is a billion kilometers away from mine if "being open source" is even slightly a factor.
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@blakeyrat said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
if "being closed source" is even slightly a factor.
@atazhaia said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
if "being open source" is even slightly a factor.
You realize that's the exact same statement, right?
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guys, distance is conmutative, do you remember ?
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@blakeyrat Depends how much pedantic dickweedery should be applied to comparing the statements, but for the sake of non-argument I'll say that yeah, they're the same statement.
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@blakeyrat there are things that people without deep programming knowledge simply cannot and will never be able to do (without acquiring deep programming knowledge in the process). The difference between a GUI tool that lets you do something without programming knowledge and a GUI tool that lets you make GUI tools without programming knowledge is in lines of code. Both are made by Real Programmers for the purpose of Non Programmers being able to do useful things with computers, and the capabilities of both tools are limited by the foresight of original developers about possible uses of their software.
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@e4tmyl33t said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@swayde said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@apapadimoulis said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
Trillian
I miss so much having one fucking messenger for all of the damn networks. Fuck MS/skype,facebook, apple and google for closing everything, not just IM. Now i just don't use instant messaging :/
This sentiment is recently why I got somewhat miffed at Google for splitting SMS support for non-Voice numbers out of the Hangouts app on Android. Used to be able to text anyone regardless of which number I used from one app, now I have to use two, the fuckers.
Wasn't that changed because Android no longer allows apps to manipulate phone calls or text messages?
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@swayde said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@apapadimoulis said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
Trillian
I miss so much having one fucking messenger for all of the damn networks. Fuck MS/skype,facebook, apple and google for closing everything, not just IM. Now i just don't use instant messaging :/
Same with me. Sometimes I even miss that.
The thing is, people use crazy stuff now. Sure, you can use Slack. For teams. It's not a "hey, man, wanna grab a beer?" or "hey, girl, wanna go the movies and then fuck"-kinda communicator. For this, people are using stuff you have to sell your soul to get access to: Facebook (ugh!), google hangouts, fucking WhatsUpApp (or whatever, what the actual fuck is that?).
Ahh, member Chewbacca?
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/171/002/1e5.gif
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@apapadimoulis said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@swayde said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
one fucking messenger for all of the damn networks. Fuck MS/skype,facebook, apple and google for closing everything, not just IM. Now i just don't use instant messaging :/
Wow grandpa, you're telling me you used to send each other "instant messages" ? Ever since Update 2043, everyone just writes a note on a piece of paper and sends a picture of it. My phone can last a full 3 hours without plugging it in that way.
This reminds me: somewhere at the beginning of the year, in a desperate hope of starting to organize my stuff a bit, I fucking started a journal (a bullet journal, to be specific). It fucking worked wonders.
The point is, I never could get used to the electronic tools and their inability to bend to my will. I guess there's stuff that is just easier to use with simple combination of pen and paper instead of a fucking computer.
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@apapadimoulis said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
Office 2016 is, thus far, the least usable since 2003.
Which is exactly why I still use Office 2003.
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@weng said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
My circle of friends has devolved to a giant fucking email chain with everybody on it and SMS for other matters. S M fucking S. In 2 0 1 7.
I have one group that uses an email chain (relegating to SMS for matters relevant to smaller subgroups of us), and another that has a gigantic text chain. Thus when my phone buzzes, there's about a 90% chance that I can safely ignore whatever caused it. Yet I keep checking it regardless....
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@apapadimoulis said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
All told, we have been moving backwards in features and functions while requiring much more hardware. That’s not how it’s supposed to work.
Someone somewhere made a massively wrong technology choice and made it vastly popular. (I blame Marc Andreessen, but your pick might vary.)
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@kt_ said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
The thing is, people use crazy stuff now. Sure, you can use Slack. For teams. It's not a "hey, man, wanna grab a beer?" or "hey, girl, wanna go the movies and then fuck"-kinda communicator. For this, people are using stuff you have to sell your soul to get access to: Facebook (ugh!), google hangouts, fucking WhatsUpApp (or whatever, what the actual fuck is that?).
I use Discord and Telegram for talking with my IRL friends... I think the kids nowadays (at least in the US) use crap like Snapchat and Instagram and crap...
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@sloosecannon that makes two people I know that use Telegram.
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@arantor said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@sloosecannon that makes two people I know that use Telegram.
Yeah, not a lot of people use it... We started using it back when it first came out cause it's suuuuper fast compared to SMS (like instantaneous) and works across devices. My current goto is Discord though...
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@ben_lubar said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@e4tmyl33t said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@swayde said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@apapadimoulis said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
Trillian
I miss so much having one fucking messenger for all of the damn networks. Fuck MS/skype,facebook, apple and google for closing everything, not just IM. Now i just don't use instant messaging :/
This sentiment is recently why I got somewhat miffed at Google for splitting SMS support for non-Voice numbers out of the Hangouts app on Android. Used to be able to text anyone regardless of which number I used from one app, now I have to use two, the fuckers.
Wasn't that changed because Android no longer allows apps to manipulate phone calls or text messages?
... If that's the case, why have an app for it at all?
That sounds more like an excuse TBH...
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@el_heffe said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@apapadimoulis said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
Office 2016 is, thus far, the least usable since 2003.
Which is exactly why I still use Office 2003.
I also appreciate that the core apps (Word, Excel, Powerpoint) can fit on a 100 MB Zip Disk with room to spare. :D
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@sloosecannon said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@kt_ said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
The thing is, people use crazy stuff now. Sure, you can use Slack. For teams. It's not a "hey, man, wanna grab a beer?" or "hey, girl, wanna go the movies and then fuck"-kinda communicator. For this, people are using stuff you have to sell your soul to get access to: Facebook (ugh!), google hangouts, fucking WhatsUpApp (or whatever, what the actual fuck is that?).
I use Discord and Telegram for talking with my IRL friends... I think the kids nowadays (at least in the US) use crap like Snapchat and Instagram and crap...
Is Discord a real thing? I thought it was simply a funny way of writing "Discourse"?
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@kt_ said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@sloosecannon said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@kt_ said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
The thing is, people use crazy stuff now. Sure, you can use Slack. For teams. It's not a "hey, man, wanna grab a beer?" or "hey, girl, wanna go the movies and then fuck"-kinda communicator. For this, people are using stuff you have to sell your soul to get access to: Facebook (ugh!), google hangouts, fucking WhatsUpApp (or whatever, what the actual fuck is that?).
I use Discord and Telegram for talking with my IRL friends... I think the kids nowadays (at least in the US) use crap like Snapchat and Instagram and crap...
Is Discord a real thing? I thought it was simply a funny way of writing "Discourse"?
Yep: discordapp.com
All my interaction with it is in the context of gaming.
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@weng said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
Gmail stops collapsing quoted text at random intervals
That's never my issue; mine is always the dreaded "[Message clipped] View entire message". Because that's what I need. Does nobody fucking bottom-post email threads anymore? So you can read them in order?
@ben_lubar said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
Android no longer allows apps to manipulate phone calls or text messages?
Bull. I just installed an app today, released a couple weeks ago, that serves as my default SMS application.
@groaner said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
Thus when my phone buzzes, there's about a 90% chance that I can safely ignore whatever caused it.
I have a group in a facebook chat that's the same way.
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@ben_lubar said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
Wasn't that changed because Android no longer allows apps to manipulate phone calls or text messages?
That's not the case IME. I use one app right now for messaging and secure messaging. On iPhone I have to use two due to such a platform restriction.
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@yamikuronue said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
Does nobody fucking bottom-post email threads anymore? So you can read them in order?
IME, people always top-post when replying to emails, because that seems to be the default for pretty much every email client ever.
And I use the default, because if I didn't, it's just piss off everyone else.
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@swayde said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
Fuck MS/skype,facebook, apple and google for closing everything, not just IM.
When did Facebook stop supporting Jabber clients? I haven't tried that in a while, but it used to be supported.
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@arantor said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@sloosecannon that makes two people I know that use Telegram.
In my experience, even Signal (which I now use) has more users.
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@ben_lubar said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
Wasn't that changed because Android no longer allows apps to manipulate phone calls or text messages?
Signal can still be configured as the standard SMS app, so I doubt it.
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@ben_lubar said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@e4tmyl33t said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@swayde said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@apapadimoulis said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
Trillian
I miss so much having one fucking messenger for all of the damn networks. Fuck MS/skype,facebook, apple and google for closing everything, not just IM. Now i just don't use instant messaging :/
This sentiment is recently why I got somewhat miffed at Google for splitting SMS support for non-Voice numbers out of the Hangouts app on Android. Used to be able to text anyone regardless of which number I used from one app, now I have to use two, the fuckers.
Wasn't that changed because Android no longer allows apps to manipulate phone calls or text messages?
Then how does this app work so well for me?
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.zegoggles.smssync
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@ben_lubar said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@e4tmyl33t said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@swayde said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@apapadimoulis said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
Trillian
I miss so much having one fucking messenger for all of the damn networks. Fuck MS/skype,facebook, apple and google for closing everything, not just IM. Now i just don't use instant messaging :/
This sentiment is recently why I got somewhat miffed at Google for splitting SMS support for non-Voice numbers out of the Hangouts app on Android. Used to be able to text anyone regardless of which number I used from one app, now I have to use two, the fuckers.
Wasn't that changed because Android no longer allows apps to manipulate phone calls or text messages?
Doesn't stop Facebook Messenger from being able to do it. I don't exactly remember what they said was the reasoning, except it was something to do with Hangouts being moved towards a more businessy, Skype-y role while they wanted to do the consumer level stuff to go to Allo and Duo (which is also annoying that they think they need two different apps for text and video chats now...)
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@dreikin said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@kt_ said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@sloosecannon said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@kt_ said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
The thing is, people use crazy stuff now. Sure, you can use Slack. For teams. It's not a "hey, man, wanna grab a beer?" or "hey, girl, wanna go the movies and then fuck"-kinda communicator. For this, people are using stuff you have to sell your soul to get access to: Facebook (ugh!), google hangouts, fucking WhatsUpApp (or whatever, what the actual fuck is that?).
I use Discord and Telegram for talking with my IRL friends... I think the kids nowadays (at least in the US) use crap like Snapchat and Instagram and crap...
Is Discord a real thing? I thought it was simply a funny way of writing "Discourse"?
Yep: discordapp.com
All my interaction with it is in the context of gaming.
Most of mine is similar, I'm part of something like 5 WOW-related Discords (since they have one for each class, plus my guild one), my personal one, the old one from my EVE alliance (which is functionally dead, I just keep the Discord running because I can't be arsed to shut it down and can possibly repurpose it later), two from here, and a friend's personal one.
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@swayde said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@ben_lubar said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
@apapadimoulis said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
The advancement of the UNIX/Linux mindset of “nothing is intuitive, CLI or GTFO” -- combined with the “modern” development practices -- means that writing code as a job is becoming less and less accessible to people who would otherwise be great software developers, because they simply don’t want to memorize obscure commands and quirks for the shitpile of tools required today.
It's almost as if someone saw that Linux software was hard to use but generally worked without issues once you figure it out, that Windows software was easy to use but third-party software broke if you looked at it wrong, and that websites were written in JavaScript that required more compatibility shims than code but are pretty well sandboxed, and then they took the wrong half of each.
Reminds me of this joke:
Heaven is where the police are British, the cooks are French, the
mechanics German, the lovers Italian and it's all organised by the
Swiss. Hell is where the chefs are British, the mechanics French, the
lover's Swiss, the police German and it's all organised by the Italians.I was going to paraphrase it with programmers, but it seems i can't be bothered.
The tragedy of Canada is that they could have had English culture, French cuisine, and American technology. Instead they have American culture, English cuisine, and French technology.
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@cabrito said in The "Good news, everybody: we’re safe from Skynet!" Rant:
guys, distance is conmutative, do you remember ?
I thought it was a social construct?