I have to agree, you've had me rolling on the floor from this thread. I've been dealing with their "experts" after having inherited some of the epic issues with the Caché systems. The requirements are pretty ridiculous, they were telling us that we need 12 processors, we also need 2 full arrays in the SAN for their application to work properly. When the question as to why we need to isolate their application and database when we have the same set up for our Oracle databases, they couldn't give us a satisfactory answer. There's a WTF for you, having to buy nearly $750,000 in hardware just to get their Crappé developed application/DB to work.