#exit 0
# the Java program exits with exit code indicating fail if there were no files downloaded. This is useful sometimes, but in order to take advantage of this, we'll have to change the Informatica workflow, and that's just not worth it right now. lmh Apr 6 2016
# we're bringing it back lmh Feb 7 2017
# exit $?
# nope, make it 0 for testing
exit 0
Best posts made by belgariontheking
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Proud of this comment trail
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*sigh* I guess if that's what you want...
Good day all. I had to dust off my old account to bring you this.
I just got a request from a manager asking if the following was possible:
Take an excel file.
Pull some data out and throw it into an xml
pull some data out and throw it into a ~*~ delimited file. Yes, that's the delimiter. No, you can't ask why.I told him, sure, that's fine. Then he said something I'll never forget.
"The XML format will be very flat and just a bunch of tags at the same level with CSV data."
From there, I believe they're going to pull the data into an Oracle table, presumably with CSV data in fields.
I said probably the nerdiest thing I'll say for a while. "None of this is technically infeasible, but it's an incredible abuse of both XML and CSV."
The reason for all this BS is that we're working with a huge vendor product, which means all bets that anything will make sense are out the window.
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One Liner. Ok fine, multiple liner.
I complained to an offshore team that I couldn't debug the error out of this stack trace because the line number referenced (309) is past the end of the code file in the repository. Here is their response:
We have not moved the commented lines to CVS code and it is showing wrong numbers.
And before you bitch about CVS, I don't have time for it. It wasn't my call, and the version control I use doesn't matter.
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RE: One Liner. Ok fine, multiple liner.
Am I reading this correctly
Well keep in mind, offshore team. Pretend the highlighted word is so.The war they gave me to deploy was compiled with the .java files that had the comments. Then they put the non-commented code in the repository. So pretty much the opposite of anything that would make sense.
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RE: OOOHHH, now that's enterprisey
I'm not here to defend Java.
However.
I kinda missed you blakey, in a "citric acid in my eye" kinda way.
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RE: OOOHHH, now that's enterprisey
Java coders: Here's what EJBs are. EJB is a framework that does all this stuff for me.
Blakey: That sounds retarded now let me tell you about the framework I use that has no demonstrable difference.
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RE: Overheard at Work
Tell them they'll get paid today for working (the number of bits in a byte) hours.
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RE: *sigh* I guess if that's what you want...
why?
I think I'm still a moderator on the forums. Once I figure it out, I'm gonna ban you, then find your mom's account and ban her, then pre-emptively ban all your current and future children.Have a nice day.
But to be honest, it's probably for the reasons mentioned in replies above.
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RE: WTF Spam!
Give me this guy's email address, stat! I'm running short of gay-slaves, err I mean Tomahawk rockets.
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RE: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
Man, I never would have thought I would ever say this, but I miss SpectateSwamp. This thread just isn't the same without him.
COME BACK!!
Note that this post is in no way an endorsement of the crackhead's product.
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OOOHHH, now that's enterprisey
With apologies, I think I stole this title from an old front page post.
So I've got an application developed offshore, and they've asked me to take it over the finish line.
It's actually two applications. "The UI and the back end." Two separate WARs. UI doesn't involve Java or the DB at all.
How, you ask? Well the UI pops up a loading screen and then AJAX's the information from the other application into tables/etc.
OK, seems simple enough.
At first I said "Nobody ever told these guys you can put UI and business logic in the same war." Then I asked the PM about it. She had the same questions as me and the architect told her, "Well, what if we make it a mobile application? There are standards, you know."
I think this is the definition of enterprisey. Thinking about the uber future before you see what's in front of your face.
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RE: Flowers
@Lingerance said:
@dhromed said:
Someone should post that into a hidden div on a popular site's template.@RayS said:
Assuming (reasonably) that their 6 day workweek excludes Sundays, interesting that you can have flowers delivered for mothers day, a Sunday.
A cruddy spam for a cruddy business! Just to help out with the link spamming that they apparently find so useful...
people who have relations with donkeys
corrupt business owners that kidnap babies
Hopefully GoogleBot will do something useful with those.
Genius!
QFT.
Quoted so it appears once more on this page.
Picture Of Dog Licking His Balls
if english was good enough for jesus it s good enough for them mexicans
Will these help or hinder our spammer? If it's help, a mod can delete this post.
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RE: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
@SpectateSwamp said:
The only one that counts to the masses is availability. I just want the computer to safely store and find my data. The other security is for corporations.
I disagree.
I certainly don't want anyone logging in as me.
I certainly don't want others reading my password when I log into my email (even if all of my email is then transmitted in the clear).
Maybe you should become part of the masses (instead of a creepy crazy guy) before you decide what the masses need. Most people store personal financial information, images of their family, passwords(!), and porn on their computer. Not something they want others to find.
So you want to share your data with me? Fine. Suppose I want to see videos of you using your product. Suppose (in letting me see those videos), you've allowed me to wipe your hard drive. Now you've lost all your financial data, your videos, pictures of your family, your porn. So you have a backup. "The masses" don't backup. Plain and simple. Suppose you've allowed me to PUT files on your hard drive, and change your screen saver to a horse autopsy. Do you still say you're secure?
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RE: Using clipboard for application communication
@belgariontheking said:
@TheRubyWarlock said:
This is another gem, about functions:
I guess I'll be the lone nonconformist on this
issue....remember....everyone once thought the world was flat at one
time as well...and everyone of them were WRONG.And don't forget that there was "proof" of the flat-world theory at the time too. I remember reading one such "proof" that basically stated the following; "If the world is round, we have to buy new maps. That costs money, and we don't want to spend money. Therefore the world is flat."
Just read my post again. Realized I made a mistake. Fixed it.
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RE: OOOHHH, now that's enterprisey
I don't speak Javanese, but isn't a WAR like a C#'s assembly or project (in that you can and should separate business and UI logic at that level?)
If those are two separate apps, well, that is a little freaky. And probably cross-origin-problematic. I've seen worse, though...
I don't speak .NET-anese, but let me explain this way:/appui fires up AJAX client and then goes and asks for data from the /appbackend application, and populates it through DOM manipulation. Standard stuff, but absolutely zero reason it should be a separate application.
I'm sure Facebook and Google do this all over, but they've got more than the 20 users this has.
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RE: OOOHHH, now that's enterprisey
Well if those are two server-side apps, deployed on the same server, it's kinda WTFy for them to communicate via AJAX requests.
This. When they can just as easily communicate by being in the same application. So much easier to just define a bean (Object that contains state, for you .NETers), populate it, and slurp it up than to define a bean, populate it, slurp it up, define a webservice, consume the webservice, and populate a table via DOM manipulation.
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RE: OOOHHH, now that's enterprisey
Two-tier architecture ≠ enterprise; two-tier architecture ≡ normal
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RE: OOOHHH, now that's enterprisey
You guys know it's possible to run two apps on one server right?
We're running one http server and one jboss cluster. The Jboss server != the http server in our case.
It is creating a headache for me having to create two app profiles, deploy two applications, etc. Especially when this was not all apparent to me when it was dropped into my lap.
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RE: Using clipboard for application communication
Actually reminds me of an app of which I got a trial version a while ago (yes, year 2000). It's called MemoClip and it'll let you put multiple things on a clipboard, manipulate them (make them all caps or all small), etc. I remember it being neat, but I also remember being in college and not wanting to spend $20 on a program.
Also, @Brice Richard said:
As for the comment regarding who owns the clipboard (it was suggested that USERS own the clipboard not developers) I think that's a ridiculous comment to make.
That's like saying drycleaners OWN your clothes when you take them in......well they don't....they simply charge for a service associated with SOMETHING you own.....NONE of us owns the clipboard...it's a temporary community data repository - nothing more, nothing less.
Could anything be more ridiculous?Finally, I know a thing or two about mailslots and named pipes (I believe they were referred to as named sockets in the comments). The idea is that you make a connection to another program, but you write to and read from it the same way you would a file. Not rocket science. Doesn't sound that interesting to me as a Java coder, though. In Java, all I/O are streams, and even network streams have an eof() function.
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RE: Using clipboard for application communication
@TheRubyWarlock said:
This is another gem, about functions:
I guess I'll be the lone nonconformist on this
issue....remember....everyone once thought the world was flat at one
time as well...and everyone of them were WRONG.And don't forget that there was "proof" of the flat-world theory at the time too. I remember reading one such "proof" that basically stated the following; "If the world is round, we have to buy new maps. That costs money, and we don't want to spend money. Therefore the world is round."
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RE: You can't do any better than that?
@purge said:
@belgariontheking said:
If that's in Cincinnati, that's right by my therapist. Seriously, like 100 feet away.
I'm not sure which is the biggest WTF of your comment-- that you're in Cincinnati, that you're seeing a therapist, or that you just posted both of those facts online in an IT forum.
Wait, did I say therapist? I meant crack dealer ... no, Porsche dealer.
Phew, dodged one there!
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RE: WTF's in the News
@lanzz said:
@dlikhten said:
The internal combustion engine is neither internal nor a combustion. Discuss.
this is obviously some kind of joke that i'm too stupid to get. but just in case it isn't, the combustion is internal, not the engine.Mike Meyers used to do a character on SNL named Linda Richman that said things like this when she became "verklempt" (sp?). She would become verklempt (emotional) over something Barbara Streissand-ish and say "Now I'm verklempt. Talk amongst yourselves. I'll give you a topic. The Chickpea is neither a chick nor a pea. Discuss."
No idea what bearing that has on the post, but that's the source of dlikhten's quote.
<warning type="bad joke"/>ALSO, when I tried to preview this message, I got a javascript error that said, "EXPECTED: HEAD." I should try that on my wife.
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RE: Can you fix these bugs asap
@aib said:
Then again, I think every variable ever used should be declared (with type information, else there's no point) so some people may not agree with me.
Are you referring to the argument between strong typing and duck typing? Cuz many ruby enthusiasts love not having to explicitly type everything. Like if an integer gets too big, ruby automatically switches it to a BigInt. Personally, I like strong typing, mostly because I'm a control freak who likes to spell everything out explicitly and leave nothing to question.
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RE: Conversation with the CEO at the company Xmas party
@snoofle said:
burns through cash like it's water.
I get your point, but I'm having trouble imagining water burning.
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RE: Conversation with the CEO at the company Xmas party
@MasterPlanSoftware said:
Am I missing something? Where does he say anything about a bonus or a Lexus?
@Snoofle said:
Actually, I got a substantial bonus this year (Mrs. snoofle is
getting a Lexus with one of those giant bows on top come Christmas
eve), and no, they don't know anything other than my first name, and
the chance of my ever running into any of them again is almost-null...
(wait a minute...)It wasn't in the OP. It was about 10 posts above your question.
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RE: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
@MasterPlanSoftware said:
But where do you see any trolling in Windows Vista WTF? a = a?
In a=a, the post ("Fictional people don't count") was obviously a troll because it was designed to incite an emotional response. The response and counter-response went on for four+ pages.
In Window Vista WTF, I just hated that thread. Banter back and forth between Death and MPS. I didn't learn anything, and quickly lost track of what the original argument was. Sorry for confusing a bad thread for a troll, but if I went back and read it, I'm sure I'd find a troll somewhere.
Also, I went back to one from CPound, about him wanting to find grannies to rip off by making websites for them, but it didn't get a huge response. Best trolling thread I've seen, though.
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RE: How Do I: Prevent a SQL Injection Attack Over a PHP/MySQL/Linux Platform?
@Spectre said:
That makes me ponder an important question: how do you pronounce SCSI and <font face="Courier">strpbrk</font>? (Because I really pronounce them as S-C-S-I and strpbrk.)
scuzzy and strip bark
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RE: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
@SpectateSwamp said:
Right now I could lose my LapTop and I'd be up and running on another as soon as I could get my hands on it. (ie my fresh backup) That's security. You geekie buggers would be spending days just gathering all the software packages you just got to have. Ooooh Soooo Secure I am...
Security is measured in a myriad of ways. My favorite is to use three angles: Availability, Authentication(maybe the wrong word, but close to it), and Confidentiality.
Availability is what you claim here. Your data is always available to you.
You haven't made any claim to the other two.
Do you know that you're the only one that can access your data?
Do you know that once you've authenticated yourself, noone else can read your conversation? Confidentiality is commonly handled by encrypting the conversation, but we've already seen your encryption scheme, and it is laughable. You may have a case for confidentiality because there is no "conversation" between you and your application like there would be with a webapp. BTW "Who would want to?" is not a case for security.
BTW, I used to (haven't in a while) reformat my computer every month or so. It was back in the Win98 days, and my computer was as stable as a ... not stable thing. Each time I did it, I was back up and running with everything in a matter of hours. I could have made it quicker with better imaging software, but didn't bother.
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RE: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
@SpectateSwamp said:
Why techies don't need search. They don't keep notes like I did throughout my career. 1 or 2 type written pages per day every day. Seldom did I solve the same problem twice. I'd check my notes for any previous errors. They don't keep notes because they are covering their butts and for job security. I was a consultant most of the time. My superiors loved the detail they got. I can search my inmails and find the first time I was called ignorant. That was a fun debate. You know you are winning when the other side resorts to name calling. I'm saving these nasty clips for motivational purposes. In the destkop search showdown I'll make them eat their words.
Explain how your product solves the problem of searching gobs of textual data better than anything else. I haven't heard a single answer to a single question posed to you in this thread. You keep spouting more nonsense.
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RE: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
THE SUBJECT LINES KEEP FUCKING CHANGING!
@SpectateSwamp said:
Merging makes filenames unimportant. It's the content you are always looking for.
Except that the filename is important. You don't want to go throw away important things do you? I wouldn't open up "financials_2007.doc" and expect to find a Pokemon fanfic, would I? That's because I have good filenames.
@SpectateSwamp said:
You don't go looking for a word file, thinking I'm going to re mail that to so and so. Doesn't happen.
WRONG. 100% WRONG. I do this regularly at work. I email someone a form, ask them to fill it out and return it. A month later, I need to send it to them again, to fill it out and return it. Or I email something out, 4 months later, they need it, but have deleted off their old emails, so I send it to them again. You could not be more wrong, SpectateBot.
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RE: Are you saying that this linux can run on a computer without windows underneath it, at all ?
@kaamoss said:
@Mal1024 said:
Wow(tm). I've seen a person who doesn't even know what a hard drive is have a better grasp of the concept of Linux.
Seems likely "jerry" is a troll - especially since he claims hippies on drugs are the only people who understand Linux.
In all fairness, I'm a hippy on drugs, and I understand linux...maybe he's onto something here. I wonder if we'll ever get rid of spam/trolls on the internet, if only there was a way...
Well all trolls are people. Get rid of people and you take care of the trolls.
You might say "get rid of the internet." That would accomplish nothing, as people can troll in real life. Seriously, I work with a guy who has no respect for anyone. Just walks around and tries to start shit and watch the carnage ensue.
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RE: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
@SpectateSwamp said:
The Search doesn't do anything unusual.
I would argue that displaying a random image and/or video, requiring you to create your own index, and requiring you to export your emails to text is a strange thing for a search to do.
@SpectateSwamp said:
I can fill you in on more of the details. Maybe when the laughter stops. And sombody asks
Well neither are going to happen from me.
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RE: Barcodes have ZEROS?!?!!?!?
@asuffield said:
The next person to say "UPC code" is going to get an ATM machine machine thrown at their head.
UPC Code. I love redundancy. I love redundancy.
UPC Code. I love redundancy. I love redundancy.
I'll take that ATM machine now. Is it pre-filled with money?
I'll take that ATM machine now. Is it pre-filled with money?
I can't seem to remember my PIN number.
I can't seem to remember my PIN number.
Have you heard about Microsoft's NT Technology?
Have you heard about Microsoft's NT Technology?
I went to the library and looked something up using the ISBN Number.
I went to the library and looked something up using the ISBN Number.
Do you have the HIV Virus?
Do you have the HIV Virus?
My new television has an LCD Display.
My new television has an LCD Display.
I've got a credit card that charges 20.9% APR.
I've got a credit card that charges 20.9% APR.
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RE: Are you saying that this linux can run on a computer without windows underneath it, at all ?
@seaturnip said:
This is why I never use the word 'troll'. People have gotten confused about what it means.
A troll, in the original meaning, means someone who pretends to believe things he doesn't in order to stir up responses. It's not an asshole or idiot. It's a clever bad-faith manipulator. And no, nobody trolls in real life.
Sounds like a synonym for devil's advocate. Yes, those exist in real life. As I said, one works with me.
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RE: Indecisive Java update
And yet again you use his actual name! have some respect. Wish I were a mod.
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RE: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
@SpectateSwamp said:
Indentation and multiple modules don't make a good program.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that many modern IDE's have a "format code" function which will format your code for you. Unfortunately for you, SpectateSwamp, it will not make your code better. For all I know, though, you're writing VB code in notepad.
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RE: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
@Lingerance said:
@DrPhil said:
Something interesting about this thread. Several days ago it was rated one star. It moved up to 1 1/2 at some point and now at over 400 posts it at 2 stars. At this rate, on a linear scale the thread will reach 5 stars at about the 1600 post point. Lets keep it going! lol
For some reason people rated this lowly on the wtf scale, belgariontheking and myself rated it 5 stars, tdittmar rated it 4 and 8 others rated it 1. More people need to vote high to mark this as a true wtf. Press the right-most star to vote 9from inside the thread) and press any star in the board view to view who rated the thread what.I voted it high because it is a good conversation and is entertaining, regardless of whether it's a WTF or anyone learns anything. There are threads that are highly WTF that I've rated low because the conversation just wasn't entertaining. In short, I rate the whole thread, rather than just the WTF of the OP.
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RE: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
Finally found the quote button!
@SpectateSwamp said:
99.9% of users shouldn't need to worry about secutiry by not putting sensitive data on computers.
So where do we put it? You suggest we back it up onto DVDs and CDs? An uneditable medium, not to mention that it is still not physically secure. Someone could break into your SwampShack and steal your CDs and DVDs along with your computer and camcorder. Then how would you video in a book?
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RE: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
@SpectateSwamp said:
The point of computing is to get the masses on computers. Using their digital cameras and camcorders. Not just for the bit fiddlers to complicate.
GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF YOUR ASS. The point of computing (or any product for that matter) is to make one's life better (simpler/richer/do something quicker/cheaper).
The first computer was created to help the US Military (forget which branch) calculate mortar shell trajection. They used to have rooms of PhD mathematicians calculating them. Then, they had one computer calculating them quicker AND cheaper. At the time, the "masses" being on computers had nothing to do with it.
OTOH, you may have meant that the point of your app is to get the masses on computers. It's a horrible selling point. Halo is a good selling point for getting a computer. Hell even Solitaire is a better selling point than your app.
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RE: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
@SpectateSwamp said:
Sharing it means many houses need to burn down before the code is lost.
anybody got a torch?
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RE: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
@aythun said:
@MasterPlanSoftware said:
Your plain text method loses all attachments, appointments, contacts and tasks. Sorry, but you lose. Using plain text to store email archives is ridiculous and retarded. No surprise you use that method I suppose.
Uhh... only if you're sending raw binary streams and not using base64 like most people. I'll bet you couldn't find one email that isn't entirely preservable as plain text in your archive.Do you think SpectateSwamp is doing it that way? I think he's copy-pasting emails into a text document.
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RE: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
@SpectateSwamp said:
come on belgariontheking you can do it. I'll make more video. Soon your computer worries will be gone.
I've found three sentences in a row that cannot make sense in any configuration.
@SpectateSwamp said:
EULA that states that they own my emails. Maybe not
I thought so.@SpectateSwamp said:
She's not computer savvy. Help her a bit by looking at the code like a good son. Allow her to be digital video
savvy and not to worry about the details. If she wants to know. You tell her what's going on.How is me looking at the code to your piece of shit going to help her be more computer savvy.
She has Google Desktop on her computer. I've never heard her say "Man, if only this could work slower, require me to build my own index, and play random video. Not to mention require me to learn all these new things. Then I would be set for life!" ...
Actually I just called her and asked her if she would want that to be a part of her search and she said she couldn't think of a reason anyone would.
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RE: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
@SpectateSwamp said:
It seems the techies are the last ones to see the forrest for the trees
I think SS is racist agains techies
@SpectateSwamp said:
I could fall and take a nasty knock on the head forgetting everything.
Anybody got a banana?
@SpectateSwamp said:
Is anybody doing Mpeg video out there
Probably, but I'm still "back in the dark ages" doing powerpoint. Interesting point about Powerpoint and Word documents. If someone likes what I wrote, they can copy it out and paste it into another document. Can't do that with video. I mean, they can't view it in slow motion or pause it, but that's a tradeoff I'm willing to take.
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RE: Do not run this script, ever!
@MasterPlanSoftware said:
@belgariontheking said:
TRWTF is being surprised that a thred featured on the front page will not be extended. I've come to count on it.
Whoops! Thought I had already seen the day's post and didn't check the front page again...
My bad...
ok then we'll let you off easy. You only have to program SSDS for two days. We were going to give you a whole week.
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RE: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
@tdittmar said:
There is really no need for you to declare your own showdown format - it is just this showdown or no showdown.
Aww, I kinda wanna see what he would come up with
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RE: Well... Did it help you solve your problem?
@dhromed said:
@Spectre said:
(And FYI: there's a Random pictures WTF thread somewhere.)
True, but it's not really The Official thread O'Pictures.
but I like my picture thread!
me liking it makes it official, right?)
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RE: Why is Everybody so clueless on the importance of Desktop Search to the Masses?
@SpectateSwamp said:
There are no mistakes when I hit post
You obviously haven't read any of your posts, as every single one of them was a mistake to post in the first place.
@SpectateSwamp said:
I searched the thedailywtf.txt file. Didn't happen.
And this has relevance to what?
Are you saying that you keep a file on your computer that contains all of our posts? Why, so you can read through it without connecting to the net?
Remember when we were just arguing with him about the pointlessness of "videoing in a book?"
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RE: Selling to the government is a freakin' racket!
@rbowes said:
Wow, I have the opposite experience. I WORK for the government, and I feel like we're constantly getting screwed by companies who think they can charge us whatever they want (and do!)
That's the government I know!