@cconroy said:
Ah, what the hell.
Yeah, why not (bandwaggon here I come):
A tale of two Idiots
The Karate Idiot
@cconroy said:
Ah, what the hell.
Yeah, why not (bandwaggon here I come):
A tale of two Idiots
The Karate Idiot
I work with a guy who considers himself a great Java programmer. I am not sure what he considers great, but his version of great and mine aren't really one and the same. I just found this gem in some code he checked in. Why use the enhanced for loop if you just wanted to do it the old fassioned way?
int i=0;
for (TreasuryTrade ttrade: list)
{
GenericTreasuryTicketForm genericForm = new GenericTreasuryTicketForm();
BeanToForm.translate( list.get(i++), genericForm );
formList.add( genericForm );
}
}
Yes, the BeanToForm class is a utility class that converts Hibernate Bean entities into Struts form objects. I know I know, but there already is a BeanUtils class that does this. However, this would mean he would have had to name the fields the same in the entity as he did in the form class. This was too much for him and he opted to do it manually throughout the project. Yes, everywhere in that class are the getter and setter calls such as: "to.getTradeId(from.getTradeId());". Granted, the previous developer on this project wasn't very good and had set up this structure for the side of the app already in production, but this new functionality was completely seperate and could have been done right, if 5 minutes were taken to set things up.
Ahh the complex life!
@dabean said:
@glassx said:
Get him fired maybe? Sorry to be blunt, but he's obviously in over his head.So, what should I do, other than killing him?
Point this out to his/your superiors.
If he is fresh out of college, which I think might have been implied, then he doesn't need to be fired more than mentored. If he's a seasoned proffessional then yes, fire him.
@Zemm said:
Was it http://highscalability.com/?
Zemm I love you!! I a non-faggot way, of course. That is the site I was looking for. Thank you so much.
Personally I use the pre-incrementer ever since I read Effective C++, but with today's computing power I don't think your average loop is going to perform so many iterations that you will actually be able to notice the extra 1 line of assembly.
@Lingerance said:
@barfoo said:It's easy to imagine cases where "unknown" would be an appropriate category. For example, if a clinic needed to create a new, empty record for someone who called in to make an appointment, their gender might be unknown at the time of the call.Or for someone who has had extensive damage to their outer body making the identification of the gender difficult if not impossible (say a burn victim), and is in a coma or is other wise unable to let you know their gender (amnesia) due to some traumatic event (say being set on fire). They might have a gender, or they might not, thus marking them as other would indicate that you know they aren't classifiable as male or female (like a hermaphrodite).
It's Pat!! Anybody actually remember that old skit?
@dhromed said:
@Quincy5 said:
How do you re-GET a login page?Select address bar, hit Enter.
Shift + refresh works also.
When I first joined this site I loved the "File under: ..." humor. There were some really good ones that assentuated the comment or thread nicely and made me laugh. The spam though is just silly.
I have the Effective Java from Joshua Block that I have read the first chapter of. I keep meaning to finish the book but I just don't feel like it lately when I get home. Maybe its the 3 kids running around screaming, maybe I just want to relax and not think about computers. /*shrug*/
@bjolling said:
Ahh yes, the anti-pattern pattern. I try to live by it!@vyznev said:
Or perhaps to the fact that passwd isn't defined anywhere (and password isn't used)?"passwd" is the global variable that you have to use. The "password" parameter only exists to confuse crackers. This is a well-known security pattern
@bjolling said:
Beer is for Belgians what wine is for the French.
Absolutely!
@bjolling said:
I like more or less the same beers as you, except I have Jupiler for light drinking even when I lived in Leuven. (Leuven is the home town of Stella Artois). Now that I moved up north a bit I enjoy my occasional Gouden Carolus.
Ahh yes, good olde Jup! :) We drank A LOT of cheap Jup when we were out. That, or Stella, was what we drank before we would go out for the night. Then, when we were out somewhere, we would drink the good stuff. I have close to 100 beer glasses from my time drinking/collecting over there and I must have at least 8-9 Jup glasses.
Have either of you ever been to Mons? They had two great places we would go to. Stop 1: a dungeon like atmosphere (had to take stairs down to a basement to get to it) that served this lemon liquor by the bottle. I think it was called Chen Chen or something like that. Stop 2: The fishbowl. They served beer in a glass that had to hold 2-4 gallons of beer in it.
@dhromed said:
Sloeber is like a Draak Light, so it'd probably not amuse you either. Funny how people synaesthise flavours. I'd never have described it as cherry or god forbid, chocolate. (I have tasted a few actual chocolate beers and those were quite different.) It's fruity & colourful, though. Very rich and that's why I like it.
I just meant that it was rich and fruity and tasted more like something Starbucks would make, to me. I like beers that taste like beers, not fruit. Just my opinion.
@dhromed said:
Leffe Brune (~ Double) is a drink I take when there's no Guinness around -- it's widely available and has a smoother flavour than Murphy's Irish Red which, though it got me into beer, is one I never drink anymore.
@dhromed said:
I like 'em heavier and darker (Guinness, G. Special Export, London Porter, Murphy's Stout -- things that make me swoon). Have you tried Palm? It might be up your alley.
Never had a Palm before. I like my beer dark, but not too overbearing. Something that has great, rich flavour without making your face pucker up like you just placed 20 pieces of sour candy into your mouth. If Palm is a dark beer with a smooth aftertaste then I will have to try it :)
Gulden Draak was too much like drinking beer while eating a cherry filled chocolate bar for my taste. Not a bad beer, but a little fruity. I don't recognize the second one at all.
I always had Leffe Brune, Chimay, Kwak ( i just loved the glass!!) and Stella Artois (for light drinking) in my fridge. I would go out and sample the more than 500+ beers when I was out, but those were my favs.
@belgariontheking said:
@Kiss me I'm Polish said:
Depends on beer. You won't get as wasted with 3 German 0.5l glasses as with 3 Belgian 0.33l glasses. The latter is usually much stronger, and smaller doses are highly reasonable.Belgian Beer FTW!!!!
And, to your point, I present EKU 28. The stuff tastes like whiskey to me, but apparently people drink it. Oh well, there's no accounting for taste.
QFT!!! I spent 3 years in Belgium when I was in the military. Three years of tasting beers... hmmmmm. I must say Chimay rouge and blue are my favs though. A beer that, while you are sipping on at a party/bar, will actually taste BETTER as it sits out, as oposed to tasting like shit (Bud, Coors... ect...), is too awsome for words.
@shepd said:
Are you kidding you can life a comfortable life on near minimum wage? Have you ever even tried? Here's the breakdown for where I live (NOT an expensive place at all, in fact, for the ability to actually get a damn tech job, probably the cheapest place in the entire country) for the last job I had ($10 an hour):
$21,600 gross - $2,582 taxes = $19,018 net.
Extremely low class (generally infested with vermin and insects up to and including bed bugs) single bedroom apartment: $600 a month + LMR = $11,218 remaining. Single bedroom accomodations can be had for $100 a month less, however, these afford no tenancy agreements and you have no tenant rights, which means at any time whatsoever you can be on the street (clearly not a choice)
Utilities (generally NOT included in rent): About $100 a month = $10,018 remaining. Cutting back is not an option, temperatures here in the winter go well below freezing and if you don't heat the place YOU as the TENANT are responsible for repairing the place after the pipes burst.
Food ( http://www.cnpp.usda.gov/Publications/FoodPlans/2008/CostofFoodJan08.pdf ): $163 a month = $8,062 remaining.
Car + insurance ( The transport system here assumes nobody works outside of 9-5, unfortunately for anyone looking for a career working with computers, this doesn't work and owning a vehicle is a requirement, even for this craptastic $10 an hour job) *: $3,600 yearly = $4,462 remaining.
Work tool costs (you are working your way up the ladder as a computer specialist, you need F-in work tools like a computer and internet access): $500 yearly = $3,962 remaining.
Gas for the car: $20 weekly = $2,922 remaining.
Dental/health related costs: $300 yearly = $2,622 remaining.
Clothing costs: $10 weekly = $2,102 remaining.
I doubt you can call any one of those a non-essential. And these are bare amounts. You cannot get government assistance for things like education while you are working. The average tuition cost here (not including books or accomodations or cost of living) is about $5,000 a year. It will take at least 3 years to complete a program. Calculating against CPI (your crap wage will never increase unless it hit minimum wage, I've seen and experienced this, so you will have less money remaining each year as cost of living increases and cost of tuition increases) that means you will need to save for over ~12 years to pay for college, assuming not a single mishap happens in your life during this time. During this time you will have not a single bit of entertainment and you will not even have a telephone. This is "living within your means".
Consider, for a moment, that upon graduation this 30 year old person will now be over 45. This leaves them with 20 years to work their way into something better than an entry level programming position (although at that point you'll be shitting bricks at how "great" even that is). It also leaves them with 20 years to somehow pack away enough to live like you were living previously on $10 an hour. That means you need to have over $8,000 a month income upon retirement. Assuming you live another 20 years after retirement, that's $2 million you need to save by the time you're 65. You have 20 years to do it, so you can't rely on investments to do much more than give you maybe $1 million of that. Good luck.
So, there you go. Still feel good about your opinion? Haven't lived on the line yet, have you?
Actually I have been there. When I was going to school I was making 15$/hr working 20-30 hours a week, and trying to raise two kids, which wasn't enough. By the end of it I had taken out over 45k in student loans. Of course you can't afford to go to college on 10$ an hour, but you can take out student loans like the rest of us asshole, stop begging for money.
And by your own calculations you have $2,102 a year in play money after expenses. Sound like, for somebody making $10 an hour, a good sum of money each year for fun/vacation. Sure you won't be able to go to the Bahamas, but YOU MAKE $10 A FRIGGIN HOUR!!! What did you expect?
@shepd said:
* - Car cost calculated as:
$14,000 cost of new vehicle depreciated over 10 years for $1,400 a year cost. Repair and maintenance of about $10,000 over life of vehicle: $1,000 a year. Insurance $1,000 a year (This is what most 30 year old single males with perfect records pay here). Licensing and safety tests: $200 yearly. Totalling $3,600 Fuel is NOT included.
And this is exactly what I was talking about: live within your means. If you are a minimum wage warrior you BUY A USED VEHICLE! Who said you have to drive a brand new 14k musting V6? Get a friggin 4k used Kia FFS.
Ignorant people like you are just jealous. You always want what you can't have and you expect somebody else to get it for you. The fact is you CAN make it on $10 an hour and live comfortably. You could buy yourself a nice 40k trailer and pay less than the 600 / month you pay in rent. You COULD do a lot of things that would make your life comfortable, but instead you bitch about needing assistance.
@shepd said:
I don't mean to be an ass, but it sounds like you DO deserve it. You failed out of college 3 times, what makes you think that you deserve better than what you had? Everything in your post was complete nonsense. I would say probably 70% of all job postings in the US will say something like the following: "A BS in Computer Science or 10 Years Experience (or Equivilent Experience)", or something along those lines. So, if you can't get the degree, you work your way up the ladder one year at a time. My father-in-law started as a grocery bag boy and is now working at WinDixie Corporate office. Hard work and determination prevail whereas laziness and ineptitude give you what you deserve.So don't act as if everyone in a bad situation is there because they deserve it. There are so many that don't.
Nothing is wrong with working for a few dollars over minimum wage so long as you are living within your means you should not need government assistance. So you can't afford the new Hummer. Should have got that PhD. Did you want one for free? I'm not sure where you were going with that. You can live a comfortable life on a small income such as yours without government assistance. Just live within your means.
Stop trying to coddle these lazy bastards by saying "most" are good and are just in a bad spot when it is more likely that 1 in 100 are actually hard workers fallen on bad times.
@m0ffx said:
This is by far the worst/dumbest arguement that you have made thus far, and coming from somebody with such high goals it really makes you look stupid. One has nothing to do with the other. My father did a similar career path: he has a PhD in pure mathematics, but instead of taking 6 figure jobs that would require him to travel, he became an analyst. The difference between you and him compared to the poor is that my father (and presumably you will be able to) was able to pay for his kids with HIS money, not others. He was able to afford food, medical bills for us and didn't require the tax payers to do it.I'm set to get a degree from one of the world's most prestigious universities. My ambition is to do a PhD, go into research and someday win a Nobel Prize.
Now, I won't be poor, but the salary of an academic pales in comparison to that I could get in other careers. Would you say that makes me lazy and unambitious?
Comparing your academic salary to that of somebody who is actually poor is rediculous. Now that you have completely derailed this thread please just /quit in defeat and go give some homeless guy a bath or something.
@m0ffx said:
It's called survival of the fittest. If you are too poor to be able to afford a child: DON'T HAVE ONE. Close your fucking legs and stop reproduction you degenerate piece of shit! If you are poor, making under 20k a year, you have no right to have 6 children. Alright, you have the right, but I shouldn't be forced to pay for the little fuckers is all I am saying.So you think the poor people's children should die?
@m0ffx said:
You're stupid yourself. There are many reasons why some people are poor. Being "lazy and unambitious" is not the most common one. Also, you're assuming that ambition = getting stupidly rich. Not everyone pursues that. There are more important things in life than money.
Good, then you can give up your salary to the poor. You aren't addressing the point: why should I have to pay other people's way?
If you think that being "lazy and unambitious" is not one of the main reasons why people are poor you are fooling yourself. My grandfather died when my dad was only 6. With no money he worked his ass off to put himself through school. I worked two jobs and took out MANY student loans to get my degree, all while raising two kids. What is the excuse that others have for being poor? Until I see evidence otherwise I'll go with lazy and unambitious.
I saw one of those Dateline/60 Minutes/ Whatever specials about the poor and the general concensus from the majority of them was: "why should I get a job when the government will continue to hand me free money?" Most of them were making more money pan-handling than they could working. I stick by lazy and unambitious for the majority.
@dhromed said:
@amischiefr said:
the more you make, the more you pay. Fuck those poor people!!!No, it's Fuck the rich!!!
Why should I have to pay more for services, and pay more taxes, because I was smart enough to get a college degree? It's not my fault some people are lazy and unambitious.
I'm not rich by any means, but I shouldn't be forced to pay for stupid people's mistakes.
I had to take my kid to the Mayo clinic and they required me to show them my two most recent pay stubs. Apparently they charge you based on a sliding scale: the more you make, the more you pay. Fuck those poor people!!! Moral of the story though is that I needed physical pay stubs and not e-ones. There are many other places that require these, and true you can always request a hard copy (if your company will go back and print them for you), but why not just keep them filed away just in case?
Besides the site being slow (which is typical for poor javascript / AJAX programmers) I don't really see a wtf here. Personally I like the site and think its a great idea. I searched for Calazones and it showed me all of the places that I could order from. I then went to their menu and could order BAM! Pretty neat.
@danixdefcon5 said:
In the context of translations, I find it funny when translators insist on translating technical acronyms. Things like "ISDN", "FTP", "TCP/IP" and "DSL" shouldn't really be changed, and while some of these are respected, some aren't.
I agree, everybody knows that DSL stands for Angelina Jolie :)
@boomzilla said:
@rohypnol said:
The Fahrenheit scale simply makes no sense, because the points of reference are completely stupid.Well, that's a subjective argument. But let's just accept for the sake of argument that the reference points are completely stupid. Is that the sole basis for judging it? The Celcius scale isn't much better. Why should the boiling point of water be so special, and why should 100 be linked with it?The reason I prefer F is that it's at least somewhat based on human factors, i.e., temperatures that are relevant to our day to day lives. And 100 is an interval that seems to be big enough to have a lot of divisions, while still pretty comprehensible to the typical human mind. Regardless if that was the reason behind its creation, that's the end result. You might as well say the meter is completely stupid because it was initially based on an incorrect assumption. Obviously, you need things your life to be grounded by arbitrary physical factors, and that's fine. Keep boiling that water, if that's what works for you.
The main benefit of the metric system appears to be the ability to multiply by 10. I suppose this was really useful back when a computer was a person. But, as another poster pointed out, units of measure are not well ordered. My personal utility function relies on the ease of use. Contrary to what metric snobs will tell you about the imperial system, it is pretty easy. I suppose that's because I almost never need to know things like how many feet are in a mile. And I don't need to know the boiling point of water to boil water.
While, being in the US, I don't use the metric system, and while I do agree with you that the Imperial system is not hard to use, you are just being silly to say that the metric system is no more relevant and that it is not easier. Just because you and I grew up with the Imperial system doesn't make it better or easier to use. Everything being a factor of 10 is actually pretty nice and easy to convert back and forth. For example: how many ounces in a gallon? How many inches in 12.7 feet? If it was "how many centimeters in 12.7 meters" ( I know not equilivant, just making a point) then it's an easy conversion: move the decimal place...
The reasy you are saying that the numbers for F make more sense for human daily life is because you grew up with them. Saying "oh 72 degrees outside, should be nice... ", but if you grew up with C you would be able to say the same thing, only with a different number.
@m0ffx said:
I don't know, I like this setup MUCH better than the faggy one /. uses. I could never tell what the fuck was going on over there. If you know of one that is sort of inbetween post a link.As always, Community Server is TRWTF
1) Why aren't post numbers displayed?
2) Why isn't the 'In Reply To' link just within the page?
3) Why can the view type (flat or threaded) be changed by users? It seems a good idea, but the two types use different posting conventions. Seeing it in flat view, if a threaded view user replies to multiple posts, I see a double (or worse) post. And if a flat view user clicks any reply button (other than the 'right' one) it looks fine to him, but those in threaded view see it as a non-sequiter reply to some random post.
No way to differenciate the individuals that want a paper trail? Yeah that is a pretty good WTF. Really, how hard is it to add a flag to the DB for 'paper_copy boolean'?
@tdb said:
@Soviut said:
I did, and the point of my comment was that there are platforms on which Apache works as easily as IIS does on Windows. Just because the automatic setup fails on Windows does not mean Apache is bas as a whole. A lot of web servers do use Linux after all.@tdb said:
@Soviut said:
turned on IIS and downloaded the Windows PHP installer and was up and running in 2 minutes.Sounds much like a LAMP installation on a Debian system. Just install the required packages and you're good to go.Maybe you didn't read my previous sentense about the WAMP stack that wouldn't work? We're talking about a version controlled, pre-configured package, and it still didn't manage to get Apache running. With IIS I clicked the "go" button, double clicked the PHP installer which automatically sets up an IIS hook, and was on my way.
Was that an offial package from apache.org or some third-party one btw?
I wanted to play around with PHP the other day (never used it before.. sorry lol) so I read up about this WAMP, downloaded and installed it. I created an index.php with a form (from a tutorial, very simple), placed it into a folder under /www, clicked on the little speed dial thingy on my toolbar, clicked 'start all processes' and bam! I was viewing my web page. Mind you this was all done on Win XP. I am not sure what kind of special configurations to WAMP people are doing, but I found it to be the easiest thing in the world to do.
Basically I downloaded WAMP (19 mb) in 2 minutes. Install software, 1 minute. Wrote the .php files (two, an action and a form) 3 minutes. Started the server, 2 seconds. Opened my browser, 4 seconds. So in 6 minutes and 6 I was able to download a web server, install it, write the web page and have everything up and running, and viewable. Seemed pretty easy to me.
@danixdefcon5 said:
Unless they're using Windows9x, there's no need to wipe the PC's. A well-managed Windows box would have the MyDocuments folder set to "Owner- Full Rights, everyone else - None". Of course, I prefer the NIS/NFS config they used to have back in the RS/6000 days. Your homedir is stored at the NFS server, so you'll see the same files everywhere. I've yet to see this in Windows; that is, having your "homedir" (MyDocuments) in a non-local shared folder.
Are you talking about making MyDocuments a virtual link to a shared folder on a network drive or having your MyDocuments folder downloaded/uploaded every time you log in and out? Because as I mentioned if everybody has to upload and download every time network traffic will take a significant hit. Plus, at my college at least, you aren't very likely to get the same computer twice. At least not in the same day/week, or when you need it.
@Spectre said:
@dtech said:Or maybe it's the really annoying fact that everytime you login everything gets deleted, set up to default etc., except your my documents folder ofcourse.Ha! Here everything gets deleted, including the My Documents folder.
Then again, there is a mysterious Z: drive that I don't have the courage to explore yet.
They do that for a good reason though. They are trying to prevent plagiarism and theft of intellectual property. If they didn't students could simply log in and find the work they need, already complete, and pass if off as their own. Sure, they could actually use roaming profiles and your MyDocuments would travel with you, but with 50k + students doing this on thousands of computers it might just congest network traffic a bit. They are probably expecting you to save your work on a USB drive or the Z: drive.
I have been googling for over an hour here now and I am getting pissed off. Somebody sent me a link a year ago ( I have since lost touch with that individual) and on the site that the link took me to it had listed most of the major web sites on it, the web technology that they used to develop it, what kind of servers they used to host the site, how many hits they get on average, how they were load tested and what the maximum they could handles was ect ect...
Does anybody know of this site, or one that has a nice comparrison of the different big wesites out there?
@Mole said:
The place where I work the servers are behind 3 (yes, three!) locked doors (to all other staff. about 6 doors to the outside world), to which only managers have access to the first, and only 2 IT people have access to the second two (and then the access is logged via there keycard and the camera system which is controlled by 2 other non-IT people). The reason behind this is that most employees only have limited access, and to ensure this access is enforced, they should not ever have physical access to the servers.
That's how it is here too. I work for a financial institution, I am in IT and can't even get close to the servers (the way it should be, need to know kind o thing).
We have the following:
* Door 1: Secure building that is Hurricane proof and has power generator backup that all employees can get into with a security badge and access code
* Door 2: Secure door number 2 that only certain members of IT can get through, badge swipe and code (no, I am not that privledged, just a programmer).
* Door 3: Secure door number 3 can only be opened by the managers of the Systems Support/Infrastructure team.
And that's the way it should be. Very few people ever need to touch the servers. Your average programmer doesn't know crap about the physical hardware involved. Granted most people on here probably do (one of my coworkers has his own server rack ect. ect.), but on average most wouldn't even know how to set up the racks, routers and everything else involved.
One small suggestion: move the "File not found" and TDWTF up just a tad so they are easier to see. Just my opinion though. Great job and I look forward to using the finished product!@!!
@Eternal Density said:
FTFYThe other day my dad received a
chequecheck in the mail from our phone company, for the insignificant amount of $2.40. There was absolutely no explanation for why they sent this. Also, it was originally sent to an address at which we have not lived for ten years. This is what happens when you let machines send mail automatically!
I don't think that the address part is the machine's fault per se. I think that they simply aren't pointing to the right DB that has your current address, or at least the latest entry in the DB. Stupid programmer error.
@Soviut said:
@amischiefr said:
we are to only teach Windows because it is the most popular...What's the deal with this "teaching Windows"? Nobody's teaching Windows, they're teaching basic computing skills like working with word processors, spreadsheets, the web, etc. There are two things that make this more compelling on the Windows platform; Windows is what students are most likely to encounter so it'll be more familiar when they do, and Office is, by a huge margin, much better than OpenOffice.
In neither situation are they "teaching Windows", they're simply teaching in an environment most people will consider familiar. Sure, you could argue that its a chicken and egg scenario where more Windows exposure perpetuates more Windows usage, but that's life. It could also be argued that OpenOffice is "good enough" for your limited day to day document needs, but I'm sure some Google fanboy would argue that Google docs is good enough for that and installing any office suite is bloatware.
Once again you have failed to miss the point: the argument here that was made was that ONLY Windows should be used in schools, and skills should ONLY be tought on Windows. I am trying to say "sure, teach on Windows machines, have 90% of the computers on Windows, but show them other tools that are out there. Don't simply close their eyes and pretend that there isn't another way to do things." I have no problem with 100% of the computers in schools running Windows, but to tell a teacher that he/she doesn't have the right, or that they shouldn't "show" the students another way of doing something, and possibly handing out free copies of Linux, is just plain stupid.
@Eternal Density said:
@amischiefr said:
Adam lived 930 years, so saying 'since Adam' isn't actually so far wrong.@belgariontheking said:
FTFTFY@seriousJoker said:
I believe you cannot compare the way humans have lived the lastFTFY,five thousand yearssix thousand years, give or take a hundred or so, since Adam and Eve to the way they have lived the past 50 years.BlasphemerHeretic!
Good point :) Ahh the good olde days, where you weren't over the hill until at least 600 years old...
$diety damn that was a long rant...
I got bored and dozed off halfway through. I didn't even know that you could do cool things with these damn forumns!!!
@dtfinch said:
It'll take an average of 1.4 trillion login attemptsThere are 2.596148429267414e+33 possibilities in yourto find yourrandom 6 - 8 character password with the restrictions listed above. They'll disable your login after the first 3 or so.
FTFY
Yeah I think that it is pretty safe. "Strong?" No, but good enough for most cases. Plus it should take about 10.7 months to crack.
@Soviut said:
That reminds me of my favorite poster:@mrprogguy said:
* Linux (and indeed, Unix, Solaris, and all the other variants) are OSes for people who like to get their hands dirty.... Linux is essentially programmer masturbation ... Its for those who want to be challenged by their operating system.
@belgariontheking said:
FTFTFY@seriousJoker said:
I believe you cannot compare the way humans have lived the lastFTFY,five thousand yearssix thousand years, give or take a hundred or so, since Adam and Eve to the way they have lived the past 50 years.BlasphemerHeretic!
Amendum: So by your (morb) and Brother Laz's own reasoning we should be teaching in Computer Science ONLY Java and Oracle since they are the most widely used. If we are to only teach Windows because it is the most popular and widely used then we should apply this to all areas as well. Maybe only English should be tought everywhere in the world because it is the most widely used language, and we could only have kids in gym class play soccer since globally it is the most popular sport. Lets forget about opening the eyes of young minds and ONLY teach them what is most popular.
Did farmer brown hack your account again morbs? Because you're just being an ass today with no valid arguement in any thread posting.
@Brother Laz said:
I have a great idea, let's change the driving licence procedure to require knowledge of the operation of electric and fuel cell cars! They're better!
The fact that the teacher didn't check about the price of Linux is a mistake, but in a world where almost everyone uses Windows, schools should use Windows and not some operating system that isn't used by anyone and doesn't teach important skills.
Ever seen a non-computer job ad that asked for knowledge of StarCalc instead of Excel? What do you think would happen if you were a young graduate trying to convince the interviewer why you're an asset to the company despite your lack of job experience, and you mention that you never used Excel but you use Calc and it's 'almost the same thing'? Correct! The interviewer will call you back and just recruit someone else who did bother to learn the skills necessary in the real world instead of a hash smoking rebel!
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I guess Linux is the better choice if you don't like the Windows EULA or can't pay the licence fees... As an adult, this is a choice you have to make yourself. But teaching kids with the wrong operating system will not prepare them for the real world.
It is not the job of a school to impose its worldview. Capitalism is not perfect, but we teach our kids how to function in society and embrace the capitalist principles. Windows is junk, but we teach our kids with Windows because it is the best way to achieve the main aim of a school: using community money to prepare kids for the world.
I hate this kind of crap. It is the responsibility of the educational institution to not only teach our kids skills that they can use in the real world but to also open their eyes about everything out there. Views like the one posted above only lead to intolerance, much like the religeous intolerance that was displayed hundred of years ago whenever somebody would try to teach anything that went against the views of the church.
Windows is the most widely used so we should all accept our MS overlord and worship it? We can't enlighten kids about the other possibilities in the world? Should we also be teaching them that the world is flat and that the Earth is the center of the universe? Come on, seriously, the teacher was simply showing the kids what Linux could do and offering them a CD to take home should they wish to install it, he was not forcing them to use it in the classroom or anywhere else.
@Daniel Beardsmore said:
@DOA said:You know if the linux community were to stop spawning a gazillion different flavours, some of which have only marginal differences from one another, and create a single distro we'd all be better off. Sure we can use spinoffs that specialise in something (for example DVD player-only distro for old machines) but as far as the major distros go...is there any practical reason for having all of them?
Specialist distros that exist simply to preinstall a bunch of apps, scream "Installing software under Linux is abominable!" to me. Unless software installation under Linux requires sacrifies to Codethulhu, what's the matter with the idea of these sites simply providing a package to download and install on a mainstream distro? Or instructions for fetching it via a regular package manager (Synaptic, Aptitude, etc)
(Probably a lot, and this is where the focus of effort should be.)
Ubuntu does something similar to this. You install the basic package and from there you can do an install extras feature that allows you to select from a HUGE list of available apps for the distro and you can easily select and download from there. Very nice feature, and if they all came as "Linux" and you could select that feature and customize from there, I think that would help out a lot. Just my opinion though.
@DOA said:
My reply to Q3: Reconsider life choices. Become accountant.
Accounting classes are full, what now?
There are a whole bunch of funny little ones at:
http://www.boingboing.net/2008/12/15/iraq-shoe-tosser-guy.html
@Heron said:
@bjolling said:
I've read Ed Greenwood's "Cormyr Saga" and although I generally enjoyed the story, I got annoyed with the way he portrays the women in his books. Every single one of them is a geek's dream come true instead of a real character. But his story-telling is fantastic.
My wife is reading the Wheel of Time right now, and her biggest complaint is that the women don't act like real women would act, so I know what you mean.
Come on guys, are we really complaining that a "fantasy" book about dragons and goblins isn't portraying how women act in reallity accurately? o.O
Yeah Ed makes TWO characters in the Cormyr Saga buff bitches that kick ass (kind of like that G4 geeks dream girl that brings you info and tech news), but the rest are conniving whores just like women in real life. Personally I don't like the idea of a girl being buffer and a better fighter than me either but hey, that's why they call it "fantasy" right?