Apple's cl***ic move



  • One of the few TV shows I watch is Spicks and Specks. It's a comedy music quiz show that recently released an iPhone app. However, Apple hates them! (Not enough to ban the app, but enough to c****r it)

    The show is named after a Bee Gees song, which apple does sell...

    I'd say many Australians hadn't even heard of the derogatory meaning of "spick" before. (My sample size of two - me and my wife - had only 50% knowledge, but I thought it was "spic") We have words that are used freely in the US that mean things here, like "root" which can have the same meaning as "fuck". I demand that Apple immediately censor The Root! Also, a "coon" is a derogatory name for black people - why isn't this censored? And "mong" stands for "mentally wrong" (ie a spastic) but there's several apps containing the word "mong".
    As an aside, I searched Google for "niger iphone app" (note the single g, so referring to the country) to see if there was more overzealous censoring. Fourth result was for "Nigger Chimps Out Using 9mm Glock App for iPhone" - WTGG!

    Can somebody please think of the children.



  • @Zemm said:

    And "mong" stands for "mentally wrong".

    Haha, what? Do you actually think that?


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    @bertram said:

    @Zemm said:
    And "mong" stands for "mentally wrong".
    Haha, what? Do you actually think that?
    Hint for those who have ESL/don't know.



  • @PJH said:

    @bertram said:
    @Zemm said:
    And "mong" stands for "mentally wrong".
    Haha, what? Do you actually think that?
    Hint for those who have ESL/don't know.

    Hmmm, in spanish mongo, is also a derogative word to describe someone mentally challenged, however as a tradition people named Ramon are also called Mongo (same with Jose being called Pepe) so go figure...



  • @bertram said:

    @Zemm said:
    And "mong" stands for "mentally wrong".

    Haha, what? Do you actually think that?

    You've never heard that one? It was quite common when I was a kid in the 80s. Hell, the BBC show "Extras" did a joke based around "mongoloid" in, what, 2007-2008ish?

    Edit: Oh I see the problem, you're saying it doesn't stand for "mentally wrong". Which is true. I assumed bertram was just being polite/facetious.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    I assumed bertram was just being polite/facetious.
     

    Betram is a purebred troll. How could you think that?



  • The real WTF is censoring words to protect children from knowledge that isn't particularly harmful in itself and they'll learn anyway sooner or later. All just because US Americans suck in parenting.



  • @derula said:

    The real WTF is censoring words to protect children from knowledge that isn't particularly harmful in itself and they'll learn anyway sooner or later. All just because US Americans suck in parenting.

    I want to defend my country but...yeah, pretty much.

    You're still euro trash though.



  • @Master Chief said:

    I want to defend my country but...yeah, pretty much.



    You're still euro trash though.

    Fair enough. Also, LTFY.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @bertram said:
    @Zemm said:
    And "mong" stands for "mentally wrong".

    Haha, what? Do you actually think that?

    You've never heard that one?  [ . . . ] Edit: Oh I see the problem [ . . . ]

    You Joey!



  • @Zemm said:


    As an aside, I searched Google for "niger iphone app" (note the single g, so referring to the country) to see if there was more overzealous censoring. Fourth result was for "Nigger Chimps Out Using 9mm Glock App for iPhone" - WTGG!

    I went to take a look for myself and did a massive double-take.  For a moment I thought I must have accidentally logged into Forumwarz, it looks just like one of their parody boards.




  • @derula said:

    The real WTF is censoring words to protect children from knowledge that isn't particularly harmful in itself and they'll learn anyway sooner or later. All just because US Americans suck in parenting.

    It's not our fault! We need more maps.



  • @bertram said:

    @Zemm said:
    And "mong" stands for "mentally wrong".

    Haha, what? Do you actually think that?

    Where I come from, "mong" means that state of cannabis intoxication that renders you all but incapable of movement and unable to say anything more profound than "yeah, man." I've heard it feels quite nice.



  • @derula said:

    The real WTF is censoring words to protect children from knowledge that isn't particularly harmful in itself and they'll learn anyway sooner or later. All just because US Americans suck in parenting.

    The real WTF is attracting attention to perfectly harmless words, thereby alerting the short people towards the possibility of some naughtiness.



  • @derula said:

    The real WTF is censoring words to protect children from knowledge that isn't particularly harmful in itself and they'll learn anyway sooner or later. All just because US Americans suck in parenting.

    Yeah, good point. Non-US Americans aren't nearly as bad as parenting as those asshole US Americans.

    @boomzilla said:

    @derula said:
    The real WTF is censoring words to protect children from knowledge that isn't particularly harmful in itself and they'll learn anyway sooner or later. All just because US Americans suck in parenting.

    It's not our fault! We need more maps.

    haha, beat me to it. A++



  • @Power Troll said:

    @derula said:
    The real WTF is censoring words to protect children from knowledge that isn't particularly harmful in itself and they'll learn anyway sooner or later. All just because US Americans suck in parenting.
    Yeah, good point. Non-US Americans aren't nearly as bad as parenting as those asshole US Americans.

    I totally agree 

    You do know that the whole continent is callled America, right?  So people living in Chile, for example are Americans and don't live in the US so they are in fact Non-US Americans.



  • @serguey123 said:

    You do know that the whole continent is callled America, right?

    There's TWO continents called America.

    RARE BLAKEYRAT PEDANTIC DICKWEED POST!



  • @serguey123 said:

    You do know that the whole continent is callled America, right?  So people living in Chile, for example are Americans and don't live in the US so they are in fact Non-US Americans.

    Apparently, they need maps in Corruptsylvania, too. Where is this continent of America of which you speak?



  • @Power Troll said:

    @derula said:
    The real WTF is censoring words to protect children from knowledge that isn't particularly harmful in itself and they'll learn anyway sooner or later. All just because US Americans suck in parenting.

    Yeah, good point. Non-US Americans aren't nearly as bad as parenting as those asshole US Americans.

    Supernanny proves it.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @serguey123 said:
    You do know that the whole continent is callled America, right?
    There's TWO continents called America.

    RARE BLAKEYRAT PEDANTIC DICKWEED POST!

    Depends on where you live.

    "In Europe and other parts of the world, many students are taught of six continents, where North and South America are combined to form a single continent of America. Thus, these six continents are Africa, America, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, and Europe."

    So I will chalk this to dismal education standards

    Also if you guide yourself by the actual definition of continent

    "Conventionally, "continents are understood to be large, continuous, discrete masses of land, ideally separated by expanses of water."

    @boomzilla said:

     

    Where is this continent of America of which you speak?

    http://www.catalonianbeermatcollector.info/Am%C3%A8rica/Imatges%20Am%C3%A8rica/Continent%20Am%C3%A8rica.jpg

    Here you go...



  •  Gee, that means that there's only ONE continent whose name doesn't begin with the letter A... Damn European nonconformists!



  • @serguey123 said:

    "In Europe and other parts of the world, many students are taught of six continents, where North and South America are combined to form a single continent of America. Thus, these six continents are Africa, America, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, and Europe."

    So I will chalk this to dismal education standards

    That's interesting. This is the first time I've heard of combining the Americas into a single continent. Much more common is referring to Eurasia as a single continent, which makes more sense. Combining North and South America seems silly. Might as well combine Asia and Africa.



  • @boomzilla said:

    That's interesting. This is the first time I've heard of combining the Americas into a single continent. Much more common is referring to Eurasia as a single continent, which makes more sense. Combining North and South America seems silly. Might as well combine Asia and Africa.

    If you go backward in time really fast you can see them combine.

    Anyways, check the tags, or the olympic flag, it is not that uncommon



  • @Power Troll said:

    @derula said:
    The real WTF is censoring words to protect children from knowledge that isn't particularly harmful in itself and they'll learn anyway sooner or later. All just because US Americans suck in parenting.

    Yeah, good point. Non-US Americans aren't nearly as bad as parenting as those asshole US Americans.

    Sorry if I can't keep up. What's your point? I made a (probably unqualified and undoubtedly needlessly, provokingly generalized) comment on what I've heard about the situation in the United States. Specifically, I have been told (by someone who lives in the country himself), that in his experience many parents let their children play violent video games that clearly aren't suited for them, to spare costs for a real babysitter. And apparently, this was not just one opinion, but a problem openly discussed in the media. It's not that the packaging doesn't give a parental advisory, parents are just ignoring it. Why? Because they're good at parenting?


    And I mentioned specifically the USA because I know for sure this problem affects that country, but have not enough information to know for sure whether it affects other US countries as well. I also do not know if the word censoring is as common in other American countries as it is in the USA.


    So what's your problem? Did you find my formulation "US Americans" confusing? Does it look like I think all Americans are from the United States? Well in that case fuck you, you pedantic dickweed. I hate you and your extended family.


    Edit: Oh, I just noticed the nickname. Phew. I had thought about leaving the last sentence out for fear of sounding insulting, but that way it's all right.



  • @serguey123 said:

    @blakeyrat said:

    @serguey123 said:
    You do know that the whole continent is callled America, right?
    There's TWO continents called America.

    RARE BLAKEYRAT PEDANTIC DICKWEED POST!

    Depends on where you live.

    "In Europe and other parts of the world, many students are taught of six continents, where North and South America are combined to form a single continent of America. Thus, these six continents are Africa, America, Antarctica, Asia, Australia, and Europe."

    So I will chalk this to dismal education standards

    No, I'll chalk this down to the dickhead who wrote this web page talking out of his arse. After all, it is an American website you quoted.



  • @serguey123 said:

    @boomzilla said:
    That's interesting. This is the first time I've heard of combining the Americas into a single continent. Much more common is referring to Eurasia as a single continent, which makes more sense. Combining North and South America seems silly. Might as well combine Asia and Africa.

    If you go backward in time really fast you can see them combine.

    Yeah, they all pretty much do that.

    @serguey123 said:

    Anyways, check the tags, or the olympic flag, it is not that uncommon

    I've always heard it as being about regions of the world.

    In any case, the real point is that it's mostly third worlders pretending to be offended about not being included by a commonly used abbreviated name of a country that only makes any sense for one country. Also, I enjoy referring to Scots as Engishmen, because having countries within a country is TRWTF.



  • @serguey123 said:

    @boomzilla said:

    That's interesting. This is the first time I've heard of combining the Americas into a single continent. Much more common is referring to Eurasia as a single continent, which makes more sense. Combining North and South America seems silly. Might as well combine Asia and Africa.

    If you go backward in time really fast you can see them combine.

    Anyways, check the tags, or the olympic flag, it is not that uncommon

    I think it's The Americas, not America, no?



  • According to Wikipedia, the colors of the rings symbolize all the colors on country flags at the time.

    Also, there's 7 continents.  If you want there to be 6, you combine Eurasia, not the Americas.  If you want there to be 4, you can pretend the Americas are one and Afro-Eurasia is one.  Have fun with that.



  • @boomzilla said:

    Also, I enjoy referring to Scots as Engishmen, because having countries within a country is TRWTF.

    Yo dawg, I herd... naah... Countrycep-, naah, both too old. We need a new matryoshka meme.



  • @Sutherlands said:

    If you want there to be 4, you can pretend the Americas are one and Afro-Eurasia is one.  Have fun with that.

    Actually, there's only two: America and Eurasica. Antarctralia is just a large ice floe floating on the Ocean.

    Source(s): I just know such things.



  • @derula said:

    Actually, there's only two: America and Eurasica. Antarctralia is just a large ice floe floating on the Ocean.
     

    Did you really combine Australia and Antarctica? We just came out of winter, no ice here. And no land between us and ROW.



  • @PJH said:

    @bertram said:
    @Zemm said:
    And "mong" stands for "mentally wrong".
    Haha, what? Do you actually think that?
    Hint for those who have ESL/don't know.
     

    It's still derogatory, even if my source for the definition was incorrect. :P

    Wendy, what's a ***** *** ***** ******* ******?



  • @Zemm said:

    Did you really combine Australia and Antarctica? We just came out of winter, no ice here. And no land between us and ROW.

    And do you count the UK as part of Europe? It's always raining there, it has no real seasons. And no land connects it to the continent.



  • @Sutherlands said:

    According to Wikipedia, the colors of the rings symbolize all the colors on country flags at the time.

    I thought they stood for the five "Friendlies" in the Beijing games: Beibei, Jingjing, Huanhuan, Yingying and Nini (whose unduplicated names happen to spell out the sentence "Welcome to Beijing").


    Also, there's 7 continents.  If you want there to be 6, you combine Eurasia, not the Americas.  If you want there to be 4, you can pretend the Americas are one and Afro-Eurasia is one.  Have fun with that.

     

    There [i]were[/i] four until people started digging these trenches (at Suez and Panama) and cutting parts of them off.

     



  • @derula said:

    And do you count the UK as part of Europe? It's always raining there, it has no real seasons. And no land connects it to the continent.

    Fog in Channel. Continent Cut Off.



  • @Matt Westwood said:

    @bertram said:
    @Zemm said:
    And "mong" stands for "mentally wrong".

    Haha, what? Do you actually think that?

    Where I come from, "mong" means that state of cannabis intoxication that renders you all but incapable of movement and unable to say anything more profound than "yeah, man." I've heard it feels quite nice.

    Yes, but how do you suppose the word "mong" came to mean that?  Because being that stoned makes you into a mong, that's why.  Back in the 70s and early 80s "mong" just meant "mongoloid", the caner usage of it is a late 80s/early 90s coinage.




  •  If an obscure Australian TV show says something about the origin of a meaning of the word, it must be true.



  • @C-Octothorpe said:

    I think it's The Americas, not America, no?

    Not in my native language... and several others including english.  You call them that way when you refer to both continent as one, not when you consider them one (not totally sure if people will get the subtle difference).

    @Matt Westwood said:

    No, I'll chalk this down to the dickhead who wrote this web page talking out of his arse. After all, it is an American website you quoted.

    Why is he a dickhead? The statement I quoted is true at least in my experience.  I was taught about the different naming for continents at elementary school, with 6 being the primary system and 7 as another system used (same with metric and imperial units).  So if that wasn't taught at your school... the fact that people in different parts of the world think differently then that is TRWTF, and your education system suck smelly monkey's ass :p



  • @Sutherlands said:

    According to Wikipedia, the colors of the rings symbolize all the colors on country flags at the time.

    Also, there's 7 continents.  If you want there to be 6, you combine Eurasia, not the Americas.  If you want there to be 4, you can pretend the Americas are one and Afro-Eurasia is one.  Have fun with that.

    Did you really read the wiki article?

    "This design is symbolic ; it represents the five inhabited continents of the world"

    Also from the wiki article on continents

    "The Olympic flag, devised in 1913, has five rings representing the five inhabited, participating continents, with America being treated as one continent and Antarctica not included."

    "From the mid-19th century, United States atlases more commonly treated North and South America as separate continents, while atlases published in Europe usually considered them one continent. However, it was still not uncommon for United States atlases to treat them as one continent up until World War II."

    So... it was the US that changed the fucking standard, not the rest of the world.

    And yes I know that the 7 continent system has it merits and to a point is more consistent with modern geology but the definition of continent is older than that.  So either redefine continent or use a new definition that takes into account tectonic plates.



  • @serguey123 said:

    And yes I know that the 7 continent system has it merits and to a point is more consistent with modern geology but the definition of continent is older than that.  So either redefine continent or use a new definition that takes into account tectonic plates.

    I would like to see what logic makes it possible for North and South America to be a single continent while Asia and Europe are separate continents. I'm guessing the argument goes something like, "because I said so, damnit!"



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @serguey123 said:
    And yes I know that the 7 continent system has it merits and to a point is more consistent with modern geology but the definition of continent is older than that.  So either redefine continent or use a new definition that takes into account tectonic plates.
    I would like to see what logic makes it possible for North and South America to be a single continent while Asia and Europe are separate continents. I'm guessing the argument goes something like, "because I said so, damnit!"

    I'm not sure, you would have to ask them that, but the point is that that was the fucking standard, and standards should not be changed at whim and when you change them you should not expect all people to follow whatever crack up theory they come up with, thanks to that we lost Uranus.



  • @serguey123 said:

    I'm not sure, you would have to ask them that, but the point is that that was the fucking standard,

    That's just rephrasing the same question.

    What weird-ass standard lets North and South America be one continent while Europe and Asia are two?


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @serguey123 said:

    we lost Uranus
    Are you thinking of Pluto?


  • Winner of the 2016 Presidential Election

    @PJH said:

    @serguey123 said:
    we lost Uranus
    Are you thinking of Pluto?

    I think he's talking about when they changed the name so people would stop joking about it.



  • @joe.edwards said:

    @PJH said:
    @serguey123 said:
    we lost Uranus
    Are you thinking of Pluto?

    I think he's talking about when they changed the name so people would stop joking about it.

    I still remember when they changed the pronunciation, back when Voyager 2 did a fly-by.  One night on the BBC Nine O'Clock News, they were explaining how Voyager would be making its closest approach to Your-Anus the next day, and scientists were excited at the prospect of what they might discover.  The next day there was Patrick Moore on John Craven's Newsround, talking about precisely what they had found around Ooo-Ranus.

    It must have been bad enough for presenters already.  In the final event, I think they just couldn't bring themselves to say that scientists had discovered rings of debris aronund your anus.

    [Edit: I should mention that this was a long time ago, and it may be that I have conflated the Voy2 fly-by with the original announcement of the discovery of the rings in 1977 (in which they were not directly observed, but their existence inferred by their occultation of light from the planet).  Looking back, it seems more plausible to me that I was watching John Craven's Newsround in '77 rather than '86, but whenever it happened, that's the bit I totally remember: Patrick Moore suddenly using an entirely new pronunciation than that which everybody had been using the day before.]

     



  • I've heard it being pronounced recently as YURR-uh-niss rather than yurr-AY-niss



  • @blakeyrat said:

    @serguey123 said:
    I'm not sure, you would have to ask them that, but the point is that that was the fucking standard,
    That's just rephrasing the same question.

    What weird-ass standard lets North and South America be one continent while Europe and Asia are two?

    European standard for the time.  Think about when this happened and this will make more sense. My earlier point stand.

    Also Futurama FTW

    Also let us discuss real world changing news such as this http://www.tomsguide.com/us/AIDS-Research-Glowing-Cat-Kitty,news-12516.html

    This will change the internet forever, we will have glow in the dark lolcats 



  • @serguey123 said:

    @Sutherlands said:

    According to Wikipedia, the colors of the rings symbolize all the colors on country flags at the time.

    Also, there's 7 continents.  If you want there to be 6, you combine Eurasia, not the Americas.  If you want there to be 4, you can pretend the Americas are one and Afro-Eurasia is one.  Have fun with that.

    Did you really read the wiki article?

    "This design is symbolic ; it represents the five inhabited continents of the world"

    Also from the wiki article on continents

    "The Olympic flag, devised in 1913, has five rings representing the five inhabited, participating continents, with America being treated as one continent and Antarctica not included."

    Can you explain to me how you think that refutes anything I said?

    @serguey123 said:

    "From the mid-19th century, United States atlases more commonly treated North and South America as separate continents, while atlases published in Europe usually considered them one continent. However, it was still not uncommon for United States atlases to treat them as one continent up until World War II."

    So... it was the US that changed the fucking standard, not the rest of the world.

    And yes I know that the 7 continent system has it merits and to a point is more consistent with modern geology but the definition of continent is older than that.  So either redefine continent or use a new definition that takes into account tectonic plates.

    So... America is the douchebag that changed the standards from something workable to something better, and you are the douchebag that refuses to change to the better system.  You have lost any right you had to complain about the imperial measuring system.

  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @DaveK said:

    that's the bit I totally remember: Patrick Moore suddenly using an entirely new pronunciation than that which everybody had been using the day before.

    Kind of like how at some point, that little country in the Persian Gulf, Kahtar, became Cutter?



  • @Sutherlands said:

    @serguey123 said:

    So... it was the US that changed the fucking standard, not the rest of the world.

    And yes I know that the 7 continent system has it merits and to a point is more consistent with modern geology but the definition of continent is older than that.  So either redefine continent or use a new definition that takes into account tectonic plates.

    So... America is the douchebag that changed the standards from something workable to something better, and you are the douchebag that refuses to change to the better system.  You have lost any right you had to complain about the imperial measuring system.

    Wow. Ease up on the guy. He's apparently relying on maps with "Thar be dragons" on them.


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