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@DogsB I'll settle for feeling bad due to a hangover.
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
@DogsB I'll settle for feeling bad due to a hangover.
I'll go get hammered and start shit with Poly. The hangover can be tomorrow's present.
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@acrow said in In other news today...:
Are there stereoscopic video formats for that could be played in a generic video app or a browser? Or does actual stereoscopic 3D video require making an app to access some API?
When Youtube had 3D support for a minute they offered side-by-side, as well as some other format (stacked on top? alternating frames? I don't recall) for 3D video
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
The Raspberry Pi was set to capture the binary 0s and 1s
The hydroencabulator was calibrated to reabjurate the information
Put the result into the washing machine.
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
BitLocker is supposed to do something?
Microsoft again:
Typically, there's a small performance overhead, often in single-digit percentages
It makes your storage slower.
And not so less often, it is double-digit percentages.
And sometimes triple-digit percentages.
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
The video mentions attacks against in-CPU TPM chips being possible. That, on the other hand, sounds much more difficult and awkward to me.
Yeah if the motherboard manufacturer exposed i2c or spi points I'm pretty sure it's doable even with in-cpu integration, can't remember where I saw the POC though.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
Parcel courier Yodel
Maybe they'd be more successful if the company had a name that even vaguely related to their business. I don't want packages delivered by people who "practice a form of singing or calling marked by rapid alternation between the normal voice and falsetto."
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
Parcel courier Yodel
Maybe they'd be more successful if the company had a name that even vaguely related to their business. I don't want packages delivered by people who "practice a form of singing or calling marked by rapid alternation between the normal voice and falsetto."
Wait, they deliver things?
I thought they were a professional delivery destruction service?
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
Parcel courier Yodel
Maybe they'd be more successful if the company had a name that even vaguely related to their business. I don't want packages delivered by people who "practice a form of singing or calling marked by rapid alternation between the normal voice and falsetto."
Wait, they deliver things?
I thought they were a professional delivery destruction service?
They do business in the UK. I don't live in the UK and haven't even visited since 2004, and I don't recall ever hearing of them before today, but Wikipedia suggests you might be right.
In January 2014, Yodel was voted as the worst delivery service in the United Kingdom for the second consecutive year.[11]
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
and I don't recall ever hearing of them before today
Our Limeys complain about them every so often.
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
Limeys complain
Ok, but why would I pay any attention to them?
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
Limeys complain
Ok, but why would I pay any attention to them?
I dunno...same reason you've been doing so just now I guess. Whatever that might be.
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@boomzilla To make fun of them? I don't have to pay much attention to do that.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@boomzilla To make fun of them? I don't have to pay much attention to do that.
To make fun of the bad delivery companies or the Limeys?
inb4
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To make matters worse, Crunchyroll won’t support the digital copies redeemed through Funimation. This promotion allowed users to redeem digital copies of a Funimation Blu-ray or DVD they purchased, giving them the ability them to store and view the show or movie through the streaming service. Funimation said users could keep the copies “forever” — but that’s clearly not the case now.
According to Funimation’s support page, Crunchyroll “does not currently support Funimation Digital copies, which means that access to previously available digital copies will not be supported.” In other words, all those digital copies are going away, too, which is a massive bummer for anyone who purchased — and later sold — eligible DVDs or Blu-rays, hoping to store the digital copies on Funimation forever.
Not overly sympathetic for the dvd stuff to be honest. The weebs really do get fucked for buying DVDs though. Funimation used to split a season into five parts and sell each part full priced. Then used to wonder why anime piracy was rampant.
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@TimeBandit the entire body of the article is an image
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@loopback0 that's how you make sure your divs are centered
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@cvi said in In other news today...:
But the described attack wouldn't give them access to the whole disk's contents then still? They'd only intercept one of the early keys (unless they also get a user to log on). Or am I missing something with the attack?
BitLocker encrypts the whole disk with one single key, and then encrypts that key with a few different "key protectors". Unlocking any key protector is sufficient to access (and decrypt) any part of the drive, including the whole thing. If BitLocker is paused, it writes an unsecured key "protector" that just gives the key outright. Otherwise -- unless you muck with PowerShell -- it has a TPM-only protector (a blob the TPM decrypts if boot-time measurements look okay, and the described attack gets the key from here), and a recovery protector the bootloader can decrypt with a typed-in key taken from Active Directory or Entra (enterprise) or a text file (consumer). You can also create protectors that rely on passphrases or keyfiles, or any combination of the above, but then you forsake the UI.
@hungrier said in In other news today...:
When Youtube had 3D support for a minute they offered side-by-side, as well as some other format (stacked on top? alternating frames? I don't recall) for 3D video
Way back in the way back they preferred to ingest video that was side-by-side R/L -- though you could do pretty much anything as long as both full eyes were in each frame, and fix it in post with tags -- and they did real-time ActionScript screwery to offer R/C anaglyph, Y/B anaglyph, R/L side-by-side (cross-eyed), L/R side-by-side (defocus), mirrored-L/R side-by-side (hold a mirror to the screen), or individual eyes. There was some additional screwery by nVidia to do alternating frames if you had supported glasses. If you used HTML5 instead of Flash, it'd play the original video as uploaded (i.e. cross-eyed-compatible).
Nowadays, new videos must be side-by-side L/R and must have an appropriate MP4 or MKV tag that dictates that it's side-by-side L/R. Unless you're in the YouTube VR app, in my experience it will play one eye and only one eye.
@acrow said in In other news today...:
Or does actual stereoscopic 3D video require making an app to access some API?
It used to be that VR glasses emulated additional (flat) displays with some metadata to say that they were headsets and their spatial relation to each other, and a sufficiently stretched-out browser would work just fine. (The Zune app (!!!) supported that method for its 3D video support, if videos were tagged.) However, due to everyday apps not realizing that 3D headsets were special with special lenses and making a mess, Valve and Facebook changed it so that headset displays are not available without special API calls.
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@TwelveBaud said in In other news today...:
However, due to everyday apps not realizing that 3D headsets were special with special lenses and making a mess, Valve and Facebook changed it so that headset displays are not available without special API calls.
I can imagine. Antivirus pop-ups covering your left eye, stretched like in a carnival mirror.
Is it still possible to make the headset show up as a double-width screen or something, for development purposes? And is the API available without living by either Valve's of Facebook's terms, or is virtual reality a walled garden now?
ETA: To be perfectly clear, I'm not interested in stereoscopic porn videos. But rather generating a stereoscopic view in software myself.
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@acrow On Linux there are
xrandr
settings to mark an HMD as part of the desktop or not. The web has WebXR (not supported on Apple Vision, which is why the porn people are sad, but supported in most desktop browsers and a few mobile ones). Khronos has published OpenXR as an API interface layer, and lots of things software-side (Monado, OpenHMD, etc) are targeting that, but driver-side... If you're using a Vive, Vive Pro, or Index you will be using SteamVR (through OpenXR), and you're using a Rift or Quest you will be using the Meta Launcher (through OpenXR); most other headsets just work but most other headsets have very limited market share.
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@Arantor It's like widening roads. Building 1 extra lane generates 1½ extra lanes worth of traffic hoping to use it.
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@Arantor I'm fascinated by the AI-generated image of someone typing on... newspaper?
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@dkf I was more intrigued by the number of fingers. But yes.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
God, what a hack. He went on a tangent but never came back around to the point. Or did the editor write the headline but didn't read the article first... again!
Debian 12, for comparison, is 1,341,564,204 lines of code. That's the project's own estimate. One and a third billion, that is, one and a third thousand million lines of code.
I should have given up at that line.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
I should have given up at that line.
I gave up before clicking the link. FTW!
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
I should have given up at that line.
I gave up before clicking the link. FTW!
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@DogsB to be fair to the author, it’s an extract from part of a presentation at FOSDEM 2024, rather than the entire thinkpiece but the sentiment is ultimately “back in my day we had entire systems that could run off a few floppy disks at max and now we have systems whose code count is impractically large, maybe we should do something about that”
He also indirectly points at the UNIX philosophy: make more smaller tools that do a few things well rather than making large monstrosities that do everything.
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I can’t see anything that could possibly go wrong with this.
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@Arantor Bucky Wirth might have been right back when he wrote the thing, but these days the reason for bloat is not user-facing features. These days such features, often useful ones, are being removed or, in case of redesigns, never added in the first place, but the resulting software continues to grow in girth.
- Internet-accelerated CADF (where F stands for fucktards, since most of them aren't teenagers anymore)
- "Proudly invented elsewhere" sounds good in theory, but is not scalable. The turtle at the bottom is getting very, very tired.
@DogsB You're not wrong. But in principle he's not wrong, either. The numbers are wrong and irrelevant, and the twatflappery is tiresome, but the problem nevertheless exists.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
@DogsB to be fair to the author, it’s an extract from part of a presentation at FOSDEM 2024, rather than the entire thinkpiece but the sentiment is ultimately
I thought of that, about ten minutes later, but didn't edit because I have a reputation for ignorant belligerence!
“back in my day we had entire systems that could run off a few floppy disks at max and now we have systems whose code count is impractically large, maybe we should do something about that”
I agree with the thrust of his argument. I just think he went on a tangent that went nowhere but probably made more sense if the rest of what he said was published.
There's also an inescapable reality in that there are needs for programs that are required to do a lot of very complicated things and those things are just getting more and more complicated. I like to shit on Microsoft but Windows is one of those things.
Web browsers are another of those things. Forty million does sound like a bit much even if I do shit on LOC metrics. There is an argument to be made that web browsers are basically an OS within the OS at this stage though.
He also indirectly points at the UNIX philosophy: make more smaller tools that do a few things well rather than making large monstrosities that do everything.
And then complained about Debian. That's probably several thousand small projects that do just that. And Debian is a shining beacon on the hill compared to most crap.
@Applied-Mediocrity said in In other news today...:
@DogsB You're not wrong
To the gulag with you!
"Proudly invented elsewhere" sounds good in theory, but is not scalable. The turtle at the bottom is getting very, very tired.
That's something that is biting us already. Why is my spring-boot at fifty megs and why is guava in there twice? Is that junit library actually been deployed as part of the app?
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
To the gulag with you!
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@Applied-Mediocrity sure but also he never imagined the levels of insanity and the depths of depravity that even the most twisted and feverish minds could not have dreamed of, but are wielded enthusiastically under the “proudly developed elsewhere”.
We live in a world where not only are web browsers - glorified document renderers - so complicated that they are rapidly entering a territory of being de facto operating systems in their own right, but that applications are increasingly frequently being made by welding their guts into them in the form of Electron and friends.
That’s not merely a level of “proudly developed elsewhere”, that’s also a level of outsourcing a level of work because it’s icky and came to town.
And you also realise that the modern application expectations are often far more intricate than apps of old. E.g. Slack/Discord might be glorified IRC but they’re glorified IRC with integrated image display, audio and video playback, audio and video calling, screen broadcasting, and occasionally text being typed at each other with a near-real-time log of when someone (or multiple someones) are typing in a channel.
What was the peak of software complexity in the 90s is somewhat less so now…
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@Applied-Mediocrity said in In other news today...:
CADF (where F stands for fucktards, since most of them aren't teenagers anymore)
So they graduated from this
to this
With apologies to the kid in the first picture.
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@topspin I feel like I should know who the picture is, but I don’t.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
He also indirectly points at the UNIX philosophy: make more smaller tools that do a few things well rather than making large monstrosities that do everything.
You can't lock anybody into your tools if they are small, simple and have well defined interfaces, duh.
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@Arantor He is FFFFFFFFFF, but he is not AD—his projects are stable and fairly well designed.
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@Bulb said in In other news today...:
@Arantor He is FFFFFFFFFF, but he is not AD—his projects are stable and fairly well designed.
I have heard many things about systemd. I do not believe I have ever heard it described as either of those two things.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@Applied-Mediocrity said in In other news today...:
CADF (where F stands for fucktards, since most of them aren't teenagers anymore)
So they graduated from this
to this
With apologies to the kid in the first picture.
Probably can't even grow a good mustache.
Monitor for the use of the specific user-agent string shared above and source domains in logs.
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/120.0.0.0 Safari/537.36
Lorne might be safe.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
why is guava in there twice?
Different versions, I'd bet. It is very very easy to bloat things up with different versions in a Java stack if you don't control them very carefully. I used to go through my dependencies from time to time to make sure they were consistent; the Eclipse POM editor at least is good for that. (All current projects are non-Java — C++, Python and JS have different approaches to dependency versioning — so I don't have that task.)
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
applications are increasingly frequently being made by welding their guts into them in the form of Electron and friends.
Except those aren't the guts. They're the whole thing with stuff taped around the outside to try to make them not immediately work like straight Chromium. Instead of putting in just the code you need, you have code specifically to stop things you don't need from doing anything. Then you emulate at a higher level what the low level already knows how to do but has been told not to.
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@Arantor said in In other news today...:
I have heard many things about systemd. I do not believe I have ever heard it described as either of those two things.
Most Linuxes run on systemd these days, and they work well. I don't think I've ever seen an actual bug in systemd break anything. Misconfiguration, usually from upgrade not properly transitioning properly, yes, but not bugs.
Systemd is much better than sysv-init with the hodgepodge of scripts that it replaced. It actually properly handles services failing, plug in/out events, on-demand starting of services and such, which sysv-init was never up to. But doing more things also means it's harder to learn. So you can't just come to it and do something without learning at least a bit about it. So of course people inevitably try just that, fail, and bitch about it. But it's mostly their fault.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
Probably can't even grow a good mustache.
I'm approaching my shit-posting quota for the day.
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@DogsB said in In other news today...:
He went on a tangent but never came back around to the point. Or did the editor
He == AI
Editor == AIWithout reading the article (why?), sounds about right...