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@hungrier said in In other news today...:
I was going to make a Note 7 joke but it's literally the first sentence in the article.
In 2016, Samsung launched a smartphone that caused fires.
So just like every flower vase in history. Bravo!
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@jinpa said in In other news today...:
Somebody has to do the first gloating, it might as well be me. https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/democrats.judiciary.house.gov/files/documents/AG March 24 2019 Letter to House and Senate Judiciary Committees.pdf
"The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."1
... As noted above, the Special Counsel did not find that any U.S. person or Trump campaign official or associate conspired or knowingly coordinated with the IRA in its efforts, although the Special Counsel bright criminal charges against a number of Russian nationals and entities in connection with these activities.1 In assessing potential conspiracy charges, the Special Counsel also considered whether members of the Trump campaign "coordinated" with Russian election interference activities. The Special Counsel defined "coordination" as an "agreement—tacit or express—between the Trump Campaign and the Russian government on election interference."
The investigation couldn't find anything that even implied that anyone from the Trump campaign so much as simply agreed with Russian attempts to influence the election.
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@MrL said in In other news today...:
@hungrier said in In other news today...:
I was going to make a Note 7 joke but it's literally the first sentence in the article.
In 2016, Samsung launched a smartphone that caused fires.
So just like every flower vase in history. Bravo!
Sounds like you've been buying some odd flowers.
Once the vase is smashed, it will release its stored potassium carbonate that can suppress oxygen and put out the fire.
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@hungrier said in In other news today...:
I was going to make a Note 7 joke but it's literally the first sentence in the article.
In 2016, Samsung launched a smartphone that caused fires.
It was Mr Bobby in the foyer with the vase?
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@DogsB said in In other news today...:
I liked the concept of a subset of html and javascript to create simple pages that are easier to read and navigate.
That's what the AMP specs claims it is. And yet he article says:
The embedded AMP content will be able to offer features such as interactivity without having to click away from your inbox
A subset of the previous features offers more features? Does not compute.
its JavaScript library is used to define special tags rather than using conventional HTML
<html⚡>
"Subset" my ass.
"subset of {html and javascript}" not "{subset of html} and javascript"
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
@MrL said in In other news today...:
@hungrier said in In other news today...:
I was going to make a Note 7 joke but it's literally the first sentence in the article.
In 2016, Samsung launched a smartphone that caused fires.
So just like every flower vase in history. Bravo!
Sounds like you've been buying some odd flowers.
Once the vase is smashed, it will release its stored potassium carbonate that can suppress oxygen and put out the fire.
Yeah, mine release hydroxylic acid on impact. Works very well.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
You ignored to mention that those changes happened over a much longer time scale.
What sort of time scale are you talking about? At this scale, recent events (not that you can really see them) appear consistent with historical trends:
At this scale, too, the recent trend looks consistent with previous fluctuations:
How about this scale? The black line (one specific reconstruction of historical temperatures by the Climatic Research Unit of the University of East Anglia and the UK Meteorological Office) certainly looks alarming, but the other reconstructions show trends that are not significantly warmer than the medieval warm period, and somehow we managed to survive that.
In short, the timing of the current warming trend is very much in line with the history of long-term temperature fluctuations. The magnitude may be greater than recent fluctuations, but we're still below the 10000-year average (maybe, depending on which specific set of data you believe).
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@boomzilla So your alternative explanation of the observed rise in temperatures is?
Spurious and cherry-picked data show a rise in temperatures. Temperature fluctuates more location-by-location, season-by-season, and year-by-year than would make a global average (mean? median? mode?) significantly meaningful (if one could even be accurately determined).
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
You ignored to mention that those changes happened over a much longer time scale.
What sort of time scale are you talking about?
The scale of the current changes, obviously, i.e. 150ish year.
How about this scale?
Yeah, the one were recent effects aren't averaged out.
The black line (one specific reconstruction of historical temperatures by the Climatic Research Unit of the University of East Anglia and the UK Meteorological Office) certainly looks alarming, but the other reconstructions show trends that are not significantly warmer than the medieval warm period, and somehow we managed to survive that.
In short, the timing of the current warming trend is very much in line with the history of long-term temperature fluctuations.
This would be interesting if you linked to original images that are more than 3px wide, because I can't see anything.
Is it? You can't tell that from graphs that cut off current trends.
What is the historical warming in centigrades per year?
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@djls45 said in In other news today...:
Spurious and cherry-picked data show a rise in temperatures.
So do non-cherry-picked data.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
This would be interesting if you linked to original images that are more than 3px wide, because I can't see anything.
Sure. Unfortunately, they don't embed.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
This would be interesting if you linked to original images that are more than 3px wide, because I can't see anything.
Sure. Unfortunately, they don't embed.
So once you zoom in on that image on the far right side, it get's pretty hard to tell because of all the overlapping colors, but
the other reconstructions show trends that are not significantly warmer than the medieval warm period
Not in absolute terms, but they all show the same steep increase over a short period of time (i.e. large slope), whereas there is no such agreement further left in the past.
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Trust your government
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
Trust your government
https ://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/43z93g/hackers-hid-android-malware-in-google-play-store-exodus-esurvFYI, the government in the headline appears to be Italy.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@Dragoon “Net zero” means you can offset the emissions with something else.
“Farting cows” is not “cows”. Don’t ask me how.
Maybe change their diet, genetically engineer them not to fart, I don’t know (ask all those kids in the churches ) . Or, as above, just offset their emissions with something else.Cows aren't supposed to fart. When they eat grass everything is dandy. But soybeans are far cheaper and so they get fed to cows and so the cows fart.
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Evidence is mounting that Apple is going to run away with this year's "ass ugliest camera layout" award
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@hungrier doubt. Have you seen the S10's front-facing?
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@pie_flavor At least that one can be combined with one of a number of hilarious wallpapers
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@hungrier said in In other news today...:
ass ugliest camera
It could be worse. At least it's not the ugliest ass camera.
Yet.
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@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
@Dragoon “Net zero” means you can offset the emissions with something else.
“Farting cows” is not “cows”. Don’t ask me how.
Maybe change their diet, genetically engineer them not to fart, I don’t know (ask all those kids in the churches ) . Or, as above, just offset their emissions with something else.Cows aren't supposed to fart. When they eat grass everything is dandy. But soybeans are far cheaper and so they get fed to cows and so the cows fart.
So "change their diet" was right on track.
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@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
@Dragoon “Net zero” means you can offset the emissions with something else.
“Farting cows” is not “cows”. Don’t ask me how.
Maybe change their diet, genetically engineer them not to fart, I don’t know (ask all those kids in the churches ) . Or, as above, just offset their emissions with something else.Cows aren't supposed to fart. When they eat grass everything is dandy. But soybeans are far cheaper and so they get fed to cows and so the cows fart.
Hmmm...I thought that grass fed cows created more methane than corn fed (which is usually right at the end to fatten them up). I'm not familiar with soy.
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Climate change threads are free.
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
Climate change threads are free.
But are they carbon free?
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@hungrier said in In other news today...:
Evidence is mounting that Apple is going to run away with this year's "ass ugliest camera layout" award
If "the camera layout is ugly" is the worst thing Apple do with a new iPhone, they're doing pretty well.
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
Climate change threads are free.
But are they carbon free?
Or at least carbon neutral?
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
@hungrier said in In other news today...:
Evidence is mounting that Apple is going to run away with this year's "ass ugliest camera layout" award
If "the camera layout is ugly" is the worst thing Apple do with a new iPhone, they're doing pretty well.
What else could they do, take a huge bite out of the screen? Get rid of the headphone socket?
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@hungrier said in In other news today...:
@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
@hungrier said in In other news today...:
Evidence is mounting that Apple is going to run away with this year's "ass ugliest camera layout" award
If "the camera layout is ugly" is the worst thing Apple do with a new iPhone, they're doing pretty well.
What else could they do, take a huge bite out of the screen? Get rid of the headphone socket?
Exactly.
Except unlike those things, who gives a shit what the camera looks like from the back of the phone?
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@Karla said in In other news today...:
Or at least carbon neutral?
The only way forward is full speed, don't be neutral
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@hungrier said in In other news today...:
What else could they do, take a huge bite out of the screen? Get rid of the headphone socket?
Get rid of the only socket left.
Oh wait, they can't sell adapters if they do that
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
Oh wait, they can't sell adapters if they do that
Wireless adapters to plug the wired adapters into. It's adapters all the way down.
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
It's adapters all the way down.
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@boomzilla said in In other news today...:
@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
@topspin said in In other news today...:
@Dragoon “Net zero” means you can offset the emissions with something else.
“Farting cows” is not “cows”. Don’t ask me how.
Maybe change their diet, genetically engineer them not to fart, I don’t know (ask all those kids in the churches ) . Or, as above, just offset their emissions with something else.Cows aren't supposed to fart. When they eat grass everything is dandy. But soybeans are far cheaper and so they get fed to cows and so the cows fart.
Hmmm...I thought that grass fed cows created more methane than corn fed (which is usually right at the end to fatten them up). I'm not familiar with soy.
Soy's very common. Montana for instance is not a lot more than miles and miles of soy. Grass is a little bit worse than corn, but grass also eats up more than the difference just by growing and being grazed.
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@kazitor said in In other news today...:
No. You live here for a summer and see if you change your mind
Think about it, if the temperature rises enough, your giant spider problem will be fixed
You'll also probably be dead, but you have to make some compromises
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@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
@kazitor said in In other news today...:
No. You live here for a summer and see if you change your mind
Think about it, if the temperature rises enough, your giant spider problem will be fixed
You'll also probably be dead, but you have to make some compromises
Those are the good guys, killing off dangerous snakes.
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@Carnage I would rather have a snake than a spider big enough to hunt snakes, if we're going about this rationally
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@djls45 said in In other news today...:
Spurious and cherry-picked data show a rise in temperatures.
So do non-cherry-picked data.
... only if you use the "right" models.
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@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
@Carnage I would rather have a snake than a spider big enough to hunt snakes, if we're going about this rationally
The huntsmen mostly only kill humans by jumping down onto them while the biped is driving vehicles, or similar things though, and hunt and eat lots of pests so they are good guys. The size just means you hear them coming so you're not as surprised.
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@Carnage said in In other news today...:
@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
@Carnage I would rather have a snake than a spider big enough to hunt snakes, if we're going about this rationally
The huntsmen mostly only kill humans by jumping down onto them while the biped is driving vehicles, or similar things though, and hunt and eat lots of pests so they are good guys. The size just means you hear them coming so you're not as surprised.
You mean you'll die of shock before they get close enough to eat you.
Okay, that's good, I guess.
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@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
@hungrier said in In other news today...:
Evidence is mounting that Apple is going to run away with this year's "ass ugliest camera layout" award
If "the camera layout is ugly" is the worst thing Apple do with a new iPhone, they're doing pretty well.
What are they gonna do, officially cancel AirPower?
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@hungrier Why, did you pre-order?
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@topspin Of course. After seeing that ugly camera layout I thought "At least I can rest it on this charging mat"
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@hungrier said in In other news today...:
What are they gonna do, officially cancel AirPower?
I thought they already had so TIL.
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@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
@Carnage I would rather have a snake than a spider big enough to hunt snakes, if we're going about this rationally
This is Australia we're talking about.
They both belongThe entire continent belongs in the Nope thread.
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
This is Australia we're talking about.
They both belongThe entire continent belongs in the Nope thread.Not entirely. Kangaroos meat is good
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@HardwareGeek said in In other news today...:
@pie_flavor said in In other news today...:
@Carnage I would rather have a snake than a spider big enough to hunt snakes, if we're going about this rationally
This is Australia we're talking about.
They both belongThe entire continent belongs in the Nope thread.
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@Karla said in In other news today...:
@TimeBandit said in In other news today...:
@loopback0 said in In other news today...:
Climate change threads are free.
But are they carbon free?
Or at least carbon neutral?
I will sell anyone carbon credits to be used for the creation of new threads.
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@topspin said in In other news today...:
@Dragoon said in In other news today...:
@Rhywden said in In other news today...:
I see that you're ignoring the ample evidence of history.
That ample evidence of history that shows we have had periods of even greater levels of change than we are currently in?
Are you trying to say the current spike is random chance and not related to humans?
When were those periods and how large was the change per time?That history that says that where I currently live was once an ocean floor? That evidence that says there were glaciers covering a fair portion of the world? That evidence or is there some other evidence that you are referring to?
You ignored to mention that those changes happened over a much longer time scale.
Some of them were FAR faster than we are experiencing currently:
It is a rather long article, specifically:
"It looks like all of the trees experienced some stress events. Something happened to all of them where their growth decreased really rapidly, and then it had a rapid increase. And then the growth decreases really rapidly again, and it looks like all the trees died at the same time," DeLong said. "Sea level 40 to 50,000 years ago is not stable. It's increasing and decreasing, increasing and decreasing. And some of this is tens of meters in just 1,000 years."
For the record, DeLong is talking about sea level rising or falling around 75 feet in just 1,000 years. This would translate into a rate of sea level rise of about 8 feet every 100 years, or even faster than the current worst-case predictions for the near future.
Becker said science, and even the very existence of the Underwater Forest itself, provides such concrete proof of climate change and fluctuating sea levels that he fears the politicians of today are spending too much time arguing about what role pollution may have played in our current climate rather than focusing on how to get ready for the coming changes.
"When you study the past, fossils and such, you start to think, 'We're not here for a long time, we're just here for a good time,'" Becker said. "The sea is rising, just as it has in the past. Places we live are going to be flooded, just as the Underwater Forest was. It may happen in five years, it may happen in10 ten, it may not happen in my lifetime, but it is going to happen."
The proof, he said, is all around us, from the fossils in the ground, to this ancient forest under the sea.
edit: added more of the article
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@Dragoon quoted in In other news today...:
It looks like all of the trees experienced some stress events.
Will nobody think of the poor trees? Get those oaks some Prozac, stat!