Discourse DMZ
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I totally jump the queue for very small fixes that I can get out quickly, yes.
Also, totally seriously, what are the biggest site breaking bugs you guys are upset with right now? Have they all been documented on our site?
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I totally jump the queue for very small fixes that I can get out quickly, yes.
I doubt many people would have a problem with that if we had any faith there was a queue at all. You're the only dev saying there is, and you're not being very specific about how or where.
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Maybe just a coincidence, but clicking on my user avatar that opens the profile card just caused my computer to BSOD.
@ChaosTheEternal, @Arantor, @chubertdev
want to offer up your computers as additional sacrifices?
(open the card, start scrolling down)
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Oh I definitely have a long list of things to fix, plus bug topics on meta that have not been closed. Prioritization generally changes when a bug is brought up many times, especially if it's bothering many people, if it's a security issue. We'll put it on top of the list.
All our developers work some variant of this way. Neil for example uses trello, for example.
edit: really gotta go for a bit, will be back later
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Neil for example uses trello, for example.
@neil you heretic. Don't you believe in dogfooding?
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Next serious security bug I find? It goes public.
What I want to know is why the ones that were found and fixed are not public already? And were they back ported to V1?
you're not being very specific about how or where.
Clearly, it's an extremely complex prioritization algorithm. Many developers that approach it can't get a handle on it and walk away due to its high level of overall complexity. In a way it is good since only serious developers can even attempt to understand it...
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Maybe just a coincidence, but clicking on my user avatar that opens the profile card just caused my computer to BSOD.
@ChaosTheEternal, @Arantor, @chubertdev
want to offer up your computers as additional sacrifices?
(open the card, start scrolling down)
My laptop is old enough to BSoD without any help.
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Also, totally seriously, what are the biggest site breaking bugs you guys are upset with right now? Have they all been documented on our site?
I'm not giving you free labor.
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It's terribly, terribly slow and laggy on my Win8 tablet (I'm watching the GIFs jump to random numbers in the seconds and I can't scroll at all), but no BSoD.
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Meh, lagged my computer for a bit but then once i close it there was no problem.
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So instead of having a unified list of problems that you can prioritize as a team, you're each individually compiling your own list and prioritizing it based on your own personal algorithm. At least that explains the apparent chaos: there is no unified "team" per se.
Since you finally answered my question, I'll toss a
fewshitton of high-profile bug reports at you:http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/pjh-please-dont-update/2914/102
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/this-topic-is-apparently-not-similar-to-anythlng/2945/1
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/editing-pm-titles-breaks-them/2831/1
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/permanent-overwrite-of-mouse-pointer/2768/1
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/muted-categories-still-dont-work/2573/1
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/discourse-breaks-select-drag-in-chrome/2168/1
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/pjh-please-dont-update/2914/371
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/flagging-a-topic-multiple-times-fails/2835/1
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/en-topic-count-all-click-to-show/2762/42?u=yamikuronue
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/end-discourse/2917/1
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/pjh-please-dont-update/2914/374?u=yamikuronue
https://meta.discourse.org/t/dismiss-unread-doesnt-clear-the-top-menu-unread-counter/13475/14
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/pjh-please-dont-update/2914/375?u=yamikuronue
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/reopen-default-quoting-behaviour-cannot-quote-code/1427/1
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/pjh-please-dont-update/2914/386
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/new-unread-topic-counts-out-of-sync/798
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/starting-a-new-topic-here/2770/1
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/quotes-links-and-newlines-combine-inconsistently/2144/1
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/changing-category-does-not-trigger-the-blue-bar-of-fail/2834/1
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/changing-category-does-not-trigger-the-blue-bar-of-fail/2834/2
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/auto-close-banner-not-showing-on-already-open-when-added/1319/2
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Also, totally seriously, what are the biggest site breaking bugs you guys are upset with right now? Have they all been documented on our site?
I think anything I'd classify as a "site breaking bug" has been reported and fixed. Most of the stuff now is UX related. Both old stuff and newly sabotaged. No doubt the biggest problem is the markdown-js swamp that needs to be drained.
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Maybe just a coincidence, but clicking on my user avatar that opens the profile card just caused my computer to BSOD.
I tried that in a new tab, and chrome told me the tab went from ~100MB (in this thread) to ~300MB.
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I haven't had a BSOD on this computer yet. I would rather not let it happen the first time.
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That first one about the profile page crashing on All was fixed a few days ago by @riking
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I'll remove it then :) Thanks
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I'll remove it then Thanks
Hey, doesn't mean it won't break today due to regression - I'd test it first before committing to any opinion.
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It does still seem to exhibit the same issue when it would crash, in that it gets slower and slower to load the farther down you get.
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I think anything I'd classify as a "site breaking bug" has been reported and fixed.
Hmm...I guess the infinite scroll on the profile page (as mentioned by @Yamikuronue) would count:
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/browser-crash-when-looking-through-old-post-activity-in-profile/2789/1
@eviltrout, looks like @sam threw you under the bus on that one:
EDIT: INB4FAIL
Thanks, @riking.
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Add this bug:
Highlighting Text to quote causes the text to be re-written to the dom in split chunks based on your highlighting, which occasionally causes the text to get scrambled or vanish entirely from the post (when a random race condition happens I think?).
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Should I put it back?
Fuck it. @eviltrout Here's a list of bugs that may or may not be fixed yet, we're not sure:
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/browser-crash-when-looking-through-old-post-activity-in-profile/2789/1http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/en-topic-count-all-click-to-show/2762/1
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No doubt the biggest problem is the markdown-js swamp that needs to be drained.
Right, and that bullshit will never get fixed:
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It's a gigantic ball of broken RegEx, most of it blindly copied from other sites with also-broken Markdown implementations. So it's not "fun" to work with, and like all true open source projects, nobody works on the stuff that's no fun.
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Their idiotic implementation of "baking" posts means it's likely that if their Markdown implementation is fixed, they'll actually be changing data in existing posts. I can virtually guarantee they aren't versioning this bullshit properly. (Why? Because versioning stuff like that would be a pretty good practice.)
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Atwood, God-Emperor of Dune-- er, Discourse, genuinely doesn't see anything wrong with the current approach.
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How about another.
BUG: When Ember UI is faced with race condition or who knows what that causes the "like" response to not happen, the subsequent attempts to like result in either 403s or 500s, which ember UI then shits into error messages but will never update the "like" status on the post and never tells you what's wrong either. You have to F5 before the page works again.
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Or another:
BUG: Doing any UI update such as "liking" causes any expanded sections of the post you liked to collapse, which screws the scroll position up so badly (especially on long reply chain expansions) that you end up completely lost in another position on the topic.
EXPECTED: DON'T CLOSE THE DAMN FREAKING EXPANDED SECTIONS ON A SIMPLE LIKE STATUS UPDATE.
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>eviltrout said:
I think a lot people here were hating on Discourse way before that ever happened.No. It was Jeff's attitude that riled everyone up in the end.
While it was Jeff's attitude that riled everyone up and has kept them riled up, there was also a negative response to Discourse before that. When @apapadimoulis first said, "I'm thinking of using Discourse; what do y'all think?" several people responded, "Ok, if A, B and C." When it was rolled-out despite A, B and C all being false, there was an understandable reaction of "not Ok." Alex's attitude of "I'm 110% committed to this, and I'm sticking with it even if every single forum user quits" didn't help.
eviltrout said:
I wonder how much of it was getting off on the wrong foot.Most of it, to be honest.
I'm not sure I agree. I saw the initial reaction to Jeff as positive. We're a snarky bunch, and when Jeff met us with snark, he was welcomed. However, when serious, civilized discourse was also met with flippant snark and dismissal, that initial welcome wore out quickly. And that dismissive attitude continues to this day, breeding more and more negativity toward both him and the product which is attitude is damaging.
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The unread counter is wrong more often than it's right, even if you Dismiss Posts (which should, logically, return it to zero) or hard refresh.
https://meta.discourse.org/t/dismiss-unread-doesnt-clear-the-top-menu-unread-counter/13475/14
This isn't the only report I've seen but it's the only one I can find - so maybe add the better-than-it-was-but-still-not-great search to that list too.
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I feel like I'm missing one related to multiple tab browsing and toasters that I just saw the other day. Anyone remember where?
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Browser crashing while going through the profile history isn't fixed.
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I feel like I'm missing one related to multiple tab browsing and toasters that I just saw the other day. Anyone remember where?
Did I post that one. Hell if I know, I've posted about so many multi-tab problems.
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Browser crashing while going through the profile history isn't fixed.
hm - i thought he had, i swear I tested after @riking did it and it seemed better. Maybe regression.
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In case anyone's not scrolling back up, I am still actively adding to the lists. Feel free to toss me links.
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It is better, you can go about twice as far before it crashes.
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In case anyone's not scrolling back up, I am still actively adding to the lists. Feel free to toss me links.
Who the hell ever scrolls up in dicsourse. that's just begging for trouble in infiniscroll land.
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It is better, you can go about twice as far before it crashes.
Ah - I was also on my beast home pc, which was already able to handle scrolling back pretty far, so I must have just not gone far enough.
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And along those lines, the entire "quotes strip out formatting" decision, while working as intended, bugs the fuck out of us. We like to quote.
I want this report to look the same as the others.
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This, even if it did get Jeff'd.
http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/new-unread-topic-counts-out-of-sync/798
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Pretty sure the crash is because it still doesn't unload history that's off screen.
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I just added some older, iffier ones, someone want to double-check that none of them have been fixed? @darkmatter perhaps?
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what did i do to earn such torture?
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You liked one of @blakeyrat's posts. If that wasn't enough, you liked a post by @Arantor too.
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It happens on occasion. Eventually if you throw enough english words on the screen in random order, one of those orders might strike me as humorous.
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Also, I'd report this bug, but I just find it way the hell too much fun to do....
@chuԚbertdev[spoiler]<img @chubertdev />interesting....[/spoiler] srlsly what the hell just @chubertdev happened here?
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Atwood, God-Emperor of Dune-- er, Discourse
I approve, I suspect Jeff would too, but without recognizing the sarcasm.
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And along those lines, the entire "quotes strip out formatting" decision, while working as intended, bugs the fuck out of us. We like to quote.
This. +∞ this.
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Oh, has anyone seen the one about the likes thread heatmap saying it's ice cold even when the last post was <1m?
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Hi, you must be new here.
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I meant, has anyone seen where that thread went, so I can link it.
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Sure, let me just load my profile and dig for it...