Are all service centers worth :shit: if I use Win98?



  • @dkf Sure, it would run under 64-bit Windows, and no, they weren't doing any complicated paging. The game just crashed when it ran out of memory. Bonus points for the fact that the most likely time that it would run out of memory was when trying to save, because they constructed the entire save file in memory before writing it to disk.



  • @HardwareGeek said in Are all service centers worth 💩 if I use Win98?:

    Sure, it would run under 64-bit Windows, and no, they weren't doing any complicated paging. The game just crashed when it ran out of memory

    Our (32bit) app does the same thing. Doesn't help that the server doubled (at least) the allowed size of an object. And we allocate a single buffer to receive the thing...


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    @dkf said in Are all service centers worth 💩 if I use Win98?:

    I just find it funny how many people think of 64-bit machines as a post-2010 thing.

    I was using one a little bit back in the early 1990s, but it was a real rarity then (it was a demonstrator Alpha system at DEC). The first systems to really switch to 64-bit were the supercomputers, a little bit later.

    When I started at the polytechnic in '92 I managed to scrape an account to a CDC Cyber off the unallocated sectors on one of the old PC/XT boxes that had been repurposed as VT100s. I forget which model it was but I did poke around in other people's FORTRAN source enough to be able to write something that shifted an integer until it would overflow and thus found that at least the default int was 64bit on that box. It was scrapped a few years later so I suppose it must have had been in use for quite a while.

    May have been a software-only 64bit like the software-only 32bit 68000 of course.

    It all tracks the cost of memory; when 4GB (or more) of memory was beyond ordinary budgets, nobody cared about 64-bit builds of OSs. But once it was economic to have the extra memory, the OS changes were mandatory.

    Even if you have less memory, the extra address space can be a big plus. Like being able to mmap() your entire harddrive and have the OS deal with the actual caching. I switched to 64bit when my Athlon-or-whatever had 2 GB.


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    @LaoC said in Are all service centers worth 💩 if I use Win98?:

    mmap() your entire harddrive

    :eek:

    I heard about loading up your OS entirely into a Ramdisk, but that just sounds ridiculous! 🚎

    (Yes, I know that's not what it actually means, but I'm trying, OK!)


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