Why does Europe suck at startups?


  • Java Dev

    @boomzilla said:

    @Rhywden said:
    There is no "European" identity.

    Much much much more than there is, say, a North American identity.

    Bwhahahahah!

    (insert 'he's serious? Let me laugh even harder' meme)

    It's an alliance of convenience at best.


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    @PleegWat said:

    It's an alliance of convenience at best.

    Which is, as I said, a hell of a lot more than there is among North American countries.


  • Java Dev

    @boomzilla said:

    among North American countries.

    :moving_goal_post:, we were talking about the states.


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    @PleegWat said:

    @boomzilla said:
    among North American countries.

    :moving_goal_post:, we were talking about the states.

    Not my :moving_goal_post:

    @Rhywden said:

    But I dare say that lumping Cuba and the US together in one fell swoop is a bit absurd and yet that is done here.

    Yes, I would definitely agree that the States of the USA are more cohesive than the nations in Europe. Sorry if I gave the opposite impression.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @boomzilla said:

    I would definitely agree that the States of the USA are more cohesive than the nations in Europe.

    The individual US states haven't had an active war between each other so recently. And aren't individually armed with nuclear weapons.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    I wager there's more similarity between, say, Germany and France than there is between Louisiana and California

    Sure, but not between Sweden and Italy. Or Switzerland and Greece.

    Ask pretty much anyone in a European country "what" they are and they'll likely respond with their country's nationality. Ask most Americans (with the exception of Texas!) what nationality they are and I'd wager they'd respond "American!" but I don't think I've ever seen anyone introduce themselves as "European".

    A closer comparison to the genuinely disparate nations of Europe would probably the collection of South American countries.



  • @skotl said:

    A closer comparison to the genuinely disparate nations of Europe would probably the collection of South American countries.

    South American countries have no central federal government.

    Look, you might love or hate the idea, but the fact is that the EU is pretty much the exact same thing as the US.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @blakeyrat said:

    South American countries have no central federal government.

    I know Brazil is a federal republic. I think Argentina might be as well, but ICBA to look it up as I don't think you meant it quite like that. There isn't a federal republic of the whole of South America. Or of the whole of North America either; the continent doesn't stop at the Rio Grande.

    @blakeyrat said:

    the fact is that the EU is pretty much the exact same thing as the US

    Except there's no common military, legal system or economic policy. You know, key features of the US federal system that make the US largely work as a single country. The EU is a confederation of countries, not a federation of states.



  • @blakeyrat said:

    Look, you might love or hate the idea, but the fact is that the EU is pretty much the exact same thing as the US.

    Doesn't matter whether I love it or hate it, but I live here and I travel all over Europe (and the U.S. for what it's worth) and you're wrong. You're believing the hype that the pro-Euro "let's actually create a single federal superstate" are spinning. The reality is that laws, culture, welfare, language and pretty much everything else that defines a nation are different in most European countries. You just need to look at (literal) walls being built across borders to show that the current trend is heading more towards isolationism.

    I won't contradict your view on the U.S. and the similarities or differences between States but I find it hard to believe your view over what I see within Europe every day.


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    @dkf said:

    Except there's no common military, legal system or economic policy. You know, key features of the US federal system that make the US largely work as a single country. The EU is a confederation of countries, not a federation of states.

    Yeah, I think blakey's just going for the easy nationalistic troll here.


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