YouTube and cookie warnings
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Great. Opening the YouTube app on my iPad just now, it shows me a question about cookies, so on well-trained reflex, I hit the “I don’t want any, thanks” option. It then tells me that my YouTube history is now off.
Result, after some more back-and-forth: a blank screen with a search field on it, but no video recommendations based on what I’ve been watching in recent days/months/years.
Fuck. I enjoy browsing the recommendations, but now I have to try and remember names of channels I’ve been viewing videos from. Which is something I’m quite poor at, and I’m not liking the idea of having to do that a bunch to sort of get back the kinds of videos it used to recommend to me until now.
(Before you ask: I’ve never logged into the YouTube app in all the years I’ve been using it — and still haven’t. I’ve pretty much always just gone through the suggested videos until I found something I liked. Don’t know why, I just used it that way. , I’m sure.)
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@Gurth So, you got exactly what you asked for and now you're complaining about it? You'll fit right in here I guess.
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@Gurth said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
it shows me a question about cookies, so on well-trained reflex, I hit the “I don’t want any, thanks” option
Looks like you have to find out how you can access the cookie settings. And then find out which of the cookies will allow you to use the history.
won't feel lucky anyways.
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@PleegWat said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
@Gurth So, you got exactly what you asked for and now you're complaining about it?
Technically, I did get exactly what I asked for, true. But in my defence: I didn’t expect a cookie warning in something I never realised is actually a web browser; and it’s not as if it asked, “Are you sure? If you continue you’ll lose your viewing history here and now!” which to me seems a reasonable warning for a destructive action.
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@BernieTheBernie said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
Looks like you have to find out how you can access the cookie settings.
Even that is a bit of a search, as oddly, you can’t just get to the settings from anywhere. I don’t have my iPad here now, but IIRC you have to first tap on the “me” (or whatever it’s called) icon at the bottom of the screen, which takes you to the login page, and only there is there a gear icon at top right that takes you to the settings. Where you then have to search for an option that may be cookie-related. Except that didn’t help, all I could do was re-enable it, but that didn’t get me back my history because I suppose it would have been erased immediately.
And then find out which of the cookies will allow you to use the history.
I suspect that would only be doable by restoring the cookie files from a backup. Good luck doing that on an iPad, though …
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@Gurth said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
(Before you ask: I’ve never logged into the YouTube app in all the years I’ve been using it — and still haven’t.
That may be the cause of your problem.
https://www.androidpolice.com/youtube-stops-showing-recommendations-not-logged-in/
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@HarryTuttle Welcome to the forum, potential spammer.
Your post seems like a generic response, but I've approve it on the side of caution. Don't want to drive new people away.
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@Zecc said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
Your post seems like a generic response
Seems perfectly on topic.
potential spammer
Don't want to drive new people away.
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@topspin said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
Seems perfectly on topic.
Maybe? It sounds like @Gurth knows the reason why the suggestions are gone. I only skimmed through the article, but I'm not sure it will help.
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And I thought I was paranoid. ;o)
@Zecc said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
@HarryTuttle Welcome to the forum, potential spammer.
Pfft, you haven't seen the half of it ...
Your post seems like a generic response, but I've approve it on the side of caution. Don't want to drive new people away.
I remembered reading a similar article a couple of days before and wanted to prevent @Gurth from a potential wild goose chase. I am pretty sure™ the cause is not cookies but let's wait and see.
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@HarryTuttle said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
prevent @Gurth from a potential wild goose chase.
Our resident wild goose seems to mostly chase himself away. He can't seem to stay away, though, even when he asks to be banned.
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@Gurth said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
@PleegWat said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
@Gurth So, you got exactly what you asked for and now you're complaining about it?
Technically, I did get exactly what I asked for, true. But in my defence: I didn’t expect a cookie warning in something I never realised is actually a web browser;
Too many apps are just rebaked web browsers now.
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@Arantor said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
Too many apps are just rebaked web browsers now.
Unfortunately, most of them are only half-baked.
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@Gurth said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
“Are you sure? If you continue you’ll lose your viewing history here and now!” which to me seems a reasonable warning for a destructive action.
Dude. You're talking about Google here. That's simply not allowed.
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@Gurth said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
and it’s not as if it asked, “Are you sure? If you continue you’ll lose your viewing history here and now!” which to me seems a reasonable warning for a destructive action.
Malicious compliance. They need to train you to accept cookies, not reject them, don't they?
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@Bulb said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
They need to train you to
accept cookiesstop using Google
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@HarryTuttle said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
https://www.androidpolice.com/youtube-stops-showing-recommendations-not-logged-in/
I think you’re right. If I go to YouTube.com without being logged into Google, it gives what seems like the same warning as the YouTube app did for me yesterday:
I had more or less read the notice before pressing “Reject all” but I had not connected “personalized content and personalized ads” with “Warning: this will clear your viewing history and recommendations based on it!” — largely because I didn’t expect that to be stored in cookies.
FWIW, I still did not log in last night but did re-enable cookies. I then searched for some channels and watched some videos, and after about three it began to recommend stuff. Checking the app today, it still shows recommendations, so at least it looks like it will continue to work without having to log in.
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@Gurth said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
I had more or less read the notice before pressing “Reject all” but I had not connected “personalized content and personalized ads” with “Warning: this will clear your viewing history and recommendations based on it!” — largely because I didn’t expect that to be stored in cookies.
It isn't. The cookie is just the key to look that info up.
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@dkf said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
@Gurth said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
I had more or less read the notice before pressing “Reject all” but I had not connected “personalized content and personalized ads” with “Warning: this will clear your viewing history and recommendations based on it!” — largely because I didn’t expect that to be stored in cookies.
It isn't. The cookie is just the key to look that info up.
: it isn’t. The cookie just contains the “official” way to track you, so that they can pretend to obey GDPR. They’ll keep tracking you in secret.
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@topspin said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
The cookie just contains the “official” way to track you, so that they can pretend to obey GDPR. They’ll keep tracking you in secret.
I know I used to get essentially the same recommendations whether I was logged in or not. Obviously, they were tracking me and connecting my viewing history anyway, whether by cookies, IP address, or whatever.
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@topspin said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
@dkf said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
@Gurth said in YouTube and cookie warnings:
I had more or less read the notice before pressing “Reject all” but I had not connected “personalized content and personalized ads” with “Warning: this will clear your viewing history and recommendations based on it!” — largely because I didn’t expect that to be stored in cookies.
It isn't. The cookie is just the key to look that info up.
: it isn’t. The cookie just contains the “official” way to track you, so that they can pretend to obey GDPR. They’ll keep tracking you in secret.
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