In Spain, every time an OAP carks it, they take a child with them...
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Ok, I understand the four-years old, that's actually quite expected.
But adding one more person?
How?I can imagine fixed-length structure (everyone loves Cobol, after all) - but that would add another 1-year old baby, wouldn't it?
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@Kamil-Podlesak
E.g.:- Parse record.
- Store result.
- Notice that there is garbage at the end (4 instead of whitespace).
- Try to seek the start of next record by hopping the stream forward by 1 character. (Forget that you've already parsed a record from the current buffer content.)
- Parse record of boy with one less character in first name, and age of "04".
- Record was fixable, so store record. (Again.)
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@acrow said in In Spain, every time an OAP carks it, they take a child with them...:
@Kamil-Podlesak
E.g.:- Parse record.
- Store result.
- Notice that there is garbage at the end (4 instead of whitespace).
- Try to seek the start of next record by hopping the stream forward by 1 character. (Forget that you've already parsed a record from the current buffer content.)
- Parse record of boy with one less character in first name, and age of "04".
- Record was fixable, so store record. (Again.)
That would still result with two children, age 10 and 4. Or 1 and 4.
Somehow, the 4 was parsed as a valid decimal place, but then... put back to buffer???
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@Kamil-Podlesak No, it would result in 2 persons, aged 104 and 4. The key is in parsing the whole record - name, SSO, and all - again if there was any error.
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That is, I suspect the result is a combination of:
- printing records with printf
- reading them with COBOL or some other old language with fixed-length records
- government-level error detection and correction (like identifying unreadable fields in tax forms by recording them as $9999999 - and later celebrating the increased tax revenue from the slew of new millionaires)
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@acrow said in In Spain, every time an OAP carks it, they take a child with them...:
government-level error detection and correction
"These records were flagged as errors. Send them for manual entering."
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@acrow said in In Spain, every time an OAP carks it, they take a child with them...:
- reading them with COBOL or some other old language with fixed-length records
This is 100%. I did work on some data integration with työministeriö (mol.fi to be specific, now te-palvelut.fi) and the data format was definitely fixed length. XML, but fixed length. The real
, however, was "allowed subset of unicode" - especially when people wanted to write their job description also in Russian (for obvious reasons).
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@acrow said in In Spain, every time an OAP carks it, they take a child with them...:
@Kamil-Podlesak No, it would result in 2 persons, aged 104 and 4. The key is in parsing the whole record - name, SSO, and all - again if there was any error.
Yes, that would make sense. The tweet said "100 and 4", but then again - it's not reliable source :-)
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@PJH how many people over 100 is there in Spain that this made a noticeable difference? Or is the number of dead children 0 everywhere so it's a +infinity increase?
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@homoBalkanus said in In Spain, every time an OAP carks it, they take a child with them...:
Or is the number of dead children 0 everywhere so it's a +infinity increase?
I don't know about zero, but it's very low due to the different way that immature immune systems react. There's a critical pathway (for classic COVID-19 symptoms) that doesn't usually switch on until later in life.
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in In Spain, every time an OAP carks it, they take a child with them...:
Ok, I understand the four-years old, that's actually quite expected.
But adding one more person? How?According to the original article, that's not the case. They just cut off what exceeds two digits, but it remains a single case.
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@homoBalkanus said in In Spain, every time an OAP carks it, they take a child with them...:
@PJH how many people over 100 is there in Spain that this made a noticeable difference?
A sufficient number to make it to headlines before what was causing the aforementioned blip was discovered, it seems.
As to actual numbers -
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@homoBalkanus said in In Spain, every time an OAP carks it, they take a child with them...:
Or is the number of dead children 0 everywhere so it's a +infinity increase?
Yeah pretty much, Covid doesn't affect children - and in terms of deaths it's really only the old or people with a known vulnerable condition who are dying in any meaningful numbers.
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@bobjanova said in In Spain, every time an OAP carks it, they take a child with them...:
@homoBalkanus said in In Spain, every time an OAP carks it, they take a child with them...:
Or is the number of dead children 0 everywhere so it's a +infinity increase?
Yeah pretty much, Covid doesn't affect children - and in terms of deaths it's really only the old or people with a known vulnerable condition who are dying in any meaningful numbers.
According to what I read, that's true for the flu, but not for Covid. There is a noticeable proportion of "young" people (i.e. below 50) who die from Covid, even without vulnerable condition. The younger you are, the less likely to die, but the probability is not zero (unlike the flu). For very young children (below 5) without a pre-existing condition, the number of deaths worldwide can probably be counted on the fingers of one hand.
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@Planar said in In Spain, every time an OAP carks it, they take a child with them...:
noticeable proportion of "young" people (i.e. below 50) who die from Covid
well maybe if people wouldn't notice so hard, that would stop.
