Linux on the Desktop? A long way off...
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@HardwareGeek said in Linux on the Desktop? A long way off... :
@Tsaukpaetra Oh, boy; replies to posts from 15+ years ago!
You'll never guess what happens next!
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Linux on the Desktop? A long way off... :
@HardwareGeek said in Linux on the Desktop? A long way off... :
@Tsaukpaetra Oh, boy; replies to posts from 15+ years ago!
You'll never guess what happens next!
I sure can. I go to bed, because it's after midnight, and I have to
workuse Linux on the (virtual) desktop in the morning.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Linux on the Desktop? A long way off... :
@Thief said in Linux on the Desktop? A long way off... :
Microsoft have also recently released / said they'll release the specs for all the binary MS Office file formats, so openoffice.org should support them properly soon enough.
Would that it went anywhere...
It sort of did. They even standardized the newer formats as ISO standards (while the Star/Open/LibreOffice ones are only ECMA standards) … in a typical Microsoft way with slight differences from what Microsoft Office actually implements.
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@Bulb said in Linux on the Desktop? A long way off... :
@Tsaukpaetra said in Linux on the Desktop? A long way off... :
@Thief said in Linux on the Desktop? A long way off... :
Microsoft have also recently released / said they'll release the specs for all the binary MS Office file formats, so openoffice.org should support them properly soon enough.
Would that it went anywhere...
It sort of did. They even standardized the newer formats as ISO standards (while the Star/Open/LibreOffice ones are only ECMA standards)
LibreOffice's OpenDocuement is ISO standardized, too. ISO/IEC IS 26300.
… in a typical Microsoft way with slight differences from what Microsoft Office actually implements.
600 pages of standard.
Nah, just kidding, it's over 7100 pages, 600+ pages are just the backwards compatibility cruft including shit like "do the line wrapping just like Word 6 did" (
yes, the one from 1993).
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@LaoC said in Linux on the Desktop? A long way off... :
Nah, just kidding, it's over 7100 pages,
...which Microsoft Word doesn't fully comply with, giving us
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@Tsaukpaetra said in Linux on the Desktop? A long way off... :
You'll never guess what happens next!
GODDAMN FBMAC!
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@Watson said in Linux on the Desktop? A long way off... :
@LaoC said in Linux on the Desktop? A long way off... :
Nah, just kidding, it's over 7100 pages,
...which Microsoft Word doesn't fully comply with, giving us
Wait... Microsoft doesn't follow their own standard?
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@Atazhaia at the time ISO 29500 was created, there were no reference implementations that followed the standard.
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@Arantor said in Linux on the Desktop? A long way off... :
@Atazhaia at the time ISO 29500 was created, there were no reference implementations that followed the standard.
Btw, MS Office itself also reads the file in more forgiving manner. Say, the CalcChain file in Excel (.xlsx file) need not be present if you don't need explicit order in your formulas, and the SharedString file need not exists if all strings are included in the cells as inline strings.
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@Atazhaia said in Linux on the Desktop? A long way off... :
@Watson said in Linux on the Desktop? A long way off... :
@LaoC said in Linux on the Desktop? A long way off... :
Nah, just kidding, it's over 7100 pages,
...which Microsoft Word doesn't fully comply with, giving us
Wait... Microsoft doesn't follow their own standard?
Well, Microsoft's first submission to ISO had a lot of Windows-specific stuff (for supporting all their different versions of Word), and ISO naturally said that such stuff wasn't appropriate for a vendor-neutral industrial standard. Microsoft went away and split their backward compatibility out those 600 pages of "Legacy" @LaoC referred to, and resubmitted the "Strict" part as the standard, with the optional "Legacy" extension. ISO accepted this on the condition that all new OOXML documents adhere to the "Strict" part, with the extension only used as required for backward compatibility. Microsoft said "Okay, sure" with its fingers crossed behind its back.
