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Harbaugh's new deal: $7.05M base salary this fall
Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh will receive a base salary of $7.05 million this fall and up to $7.6 million in the final year of his new contract, which runs through the 2026 season, according to a copy obtained by ESPN on Thursday.
Incentive for losing the Big 10 title game: $500,000
Incentive for winning the Big 10 title game: $1,000,000
Incentive for coming up just short of the national playoff: $200,000
Incentive for just making the playoff: $500,000
Incentive for winning the national title: $1,000,000Max possible incentive for academic progress of his players (and this requires a near perfect Academic Progress Rate): $150,000
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@izzion said in Sportsball WTF:
Harbaugh's new deal: $7.05M base salary this fall
Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh will receive a base salary of $7.05 million this fall and up to $7.6 million in the final year of his new contract, which runs through the 2026 season, according to a copy obtained by ESPN on Thursday.
Incentive for losing the Big 10 title game: $500,000
Incentive for winning the Big 10 title game: $1,000,000
Incentive for coming up just short of the national playoff: $200,000
Incentive for just making the playoff: $500,000
Incentive for winning the national title: $1,000,000Max possible incentive for academic progress of his players (and this requires a near perfect Academic Progress Rate): $150,000
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You know he's just the football coach, right?
What do you think he's supposed to be doing to improve the academic performance of football players? Isn't that the job of the professors?
Do the actual professors at Michigan get bonuses based on how well their students perform academically?
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Sportsball WTF:
@izzion said in Sportsball WTF:
Harbaugh's new deal: $7.05M base salary this fall
Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh will receive a base salary of $7.05 million this fall and up to $7.6 million in the final year of his new contract, which runs through the 2026 season, according to a copy obtained by ESPN on Thursday.
Incentive for losing the Big 10 title game: $500,000
Incentive for winning the Big 10 title game: $1,000,000
Incentive for coming up just short of the national playoff: $200,000
Incentive for just making the playoff: $500,000
Incentive for winning the national title: $1,000,000Max possible incentive for academic progress of his players (and this requires a near perfect Academic Progress Rate): $150,000
aLl AbOuT aCaDeMiCs
You know he's just the football coach, right?
Yeah those are the only people in US education with newsworthy comp packages.
What do you think he's supposed to be doing to improve the academic performance of football players? Isn't that the job of the professors?
Depends a lot on their practice and away schedules.
Do the actual professors at Michigan get bonuses based on how well their students perform academically?
Hahaha, of course not, see first response in this post.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Sportsball WTF:
@izzion said in Sportsball WTF:
Harbaugh's new deal: $7.05M base salary this fall
Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh will receive a base salary of $7.05 million this fall and up to $7.6 million in the final year of his new contract, which runs through the 2026 season, according to a copy obtained by ESPN on Thursday.
Incentive for losing the Big 10 title game: $500,000
Incentive for winning the Big 10 title game: $1,000,000
Incentive for coming up just short of the national playoff: $200,000
Incentive for just making the playoff: $500,000
Incentive for winning the national title: $1,000,000Max possible incentive for academic progress of his players (and this requires a near perfect Academic Progress Rate): $150,000
aLl AbOuT aCaDeMiCs
You know he's just the football coach, right?
What do you think he's supposed to be doing to improve the academic performance of football players? Isn't that the job of the professors?
Do the actual professors at Michigan get bonuses based on how well their students perform academically?
Just seems a bit hypocritical of NCAA institutions to claim that collegiate sports is all about the academic benefits it brings to the players when the football coach's incentive structure places 15x more value on winning football games than academic performance.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Sportsball WTF:
Isn't that the job of the professors?
The professors who are actively punished for failing or even requiring actual work out of the football players? The ones who are required to turn a blind eye to everything?
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@Benjamin-Hall data has consistently shown gaming the measurement system to be the most effective approach.
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@izzion said in Sportsball WTF:
@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Sportsball WTF:
@izzion said in Sportsball WTF:
Harbaugh's new deal: $7.05M base salary this fall
Michigan coach Jim Harbaugh will receive a base salary of $7.05 million this fall and up to $7.6 million in the final year of his new contract, which runs through the 2026 season, according to a copy obtained by ESPN on Thursday.
Incentive for losing the Big 10 title game: $500,000
Incentive for winning the Big 10 title game: $1,000,000
Incentive for coming up just short of the national playoff: $200,000
Incentive for just making the playoff: $500,000
Incentive for winning the national title: $1,000,000Max possible incentive for academic progress of his players (and this requires a near perfect Academic Progress Rate): $150,000
aLl AbOuT aCaDeMiCs
You know he's just the football coach, right?
What do you think he's supposed to be doing to improve the academic performance of football players? Isn't that the job of the professors?
Do the actual professors at Michigan get bonuses based on how well their students perform academically?
Just seems a bit hypocritical of NCAA institutions to claim that collegiate sports is all about the academic benefits it brings to the players when the football coach's incentive structure places 15x more value on winning football games than academic performance.
Then get better professors, or a better dean, or better trustees, or a better Governor of Michigan.
You're pointing at literally the only person on campus whose job it isn't to educate students.
If you got rid of all the NCAA football programs in the country, it wouldn't make football players, or students at large, any smarter.
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@Benjamin-Hall said in Sportsball WTF:
@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Sportsball WTF:
Isn't that the job of the professors?
The professors who are actively punished for failing or even requiring actual work out of the football players? The ones who are required to turn a blind eye to everything?
The football coach isn't supposed to be in charge of professors. If that's happening at Michigan, the person who can fix it is higher up the food chain.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Sportsball WTF:
You're pointing at literally the only person on campus whose job it isn't to educate students.
@izzion is not blaming the coach. He's blaming the academic system.
@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Sportsball WTF:
If you got rid of all the NCAA football programs in the country, it wouldn't make football players, or students at large, any smarter.
The money that's spent on this is not being spent on education.
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@Zerosquare said in Sportsball WTF:
@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Sportsball WTF:
You're pointing at literally the only person on campus whose job it isn't to educate students.
@izzion is not blaming the coach. He's blaming the academic system.
He's not complaining about money being paid to the academic system. He's complaining about money being paid to the coach.
@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Sportsball WTF:
If you got rid of all the NCAA football programs in the country, it wouldn't make football players, or students at large, any smarter.
The money that's spent on this is not being spent on education.
Sure, but what money are we talking about?
The actual dirty little secret of college athletics is that schools run athletic programs to solicit donations from rich alumni. All these programs operate at a loss on actual revenue (ticket and merchandise sales, TV deals, etc.) But enough people donate money to the school based on the success of the football program that the school winds up making a profit that's used to fund the rest of the school.
If you shut down the football program, you can't transfer that money into academics, because a lot of that money is going to stop getting donated and the school won't have it at all.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Sportsball WTF:
@Zerosquare said in Sportsball WTF:
@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Sportsball WTF:
You're pointing at literally the only person on campus whose job it isn't to educate students.
@izzion is not blaming the coach. He's blaming the academic system.
He's not complaining about money being paid to the academic system. He's complaining about money being paid to the coach.
@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Sportsball WTF:
If you got rid of all the NCAA football programs in the country, it wouldn't make football players, or students at large, any smarter.
The money that's spent on this is not being spent on education.
Sure, but what money are we talking about?
The actual dirty little secret of college athletics is that schools run athletic programs to solicit donations from rich alumni. All these programs operate at a loss on actual revenue (ticket and merchandise sales, TV deals, etc.) But enough people donate money to the school based on the success of the football program that the school winds up making a profit that's used to fund the rest of the school.
If you shut down the football program, you can't transfer that money into academics, because a lot of that money is going to stop getting donated and the school won't have it at all.
My only complaint is that NCAA schools constantly complain that they can't pay the athletes they're exploiting for those donations, because amateurism / academics is the focus. But then you see the big bucks flowing around to the coaches and how their incentives are structured, and it makes an absolute mockery out of the concept that the academics are the focus. Hell, it's obvious that they're not even second place consideration.
If you want to keep exploiting your work force, be honest about it. But complaining "academics" when you pay your coaches millions of base salary and additional millions of bonuses for winning games and a pittance for academic progress incentives just makes you look like a politician.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear: I don't have any reason to disbelieve what you've said. But that makes it an even bigger
.I mean, tuition in American universities isn't cheap. It's so expensive student debt is a major issue. Yet they can't survive without rich people's donations? And said rich people don't even care about education, they're just in it for the sports?
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@izzion said in Sportsball WTF:
@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Sportsball WTF:
@Zerosquare said in Sportsball WTF:
@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Sportsball WTF:
You're pointing at literally the only person on campus whose job it isn't to educate students.
@izzion is not blaming the coach. He's blaming the academic system.
He's not complaining about money being paid to the academic system. He's complaining about money being paid to the coach.
@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Sportsball WTF:
If you got rid of all the NCAA football programs in the country, it wouldn't make football players, or students at large, any smarter.
The money that's spent on this is not being spent on education.
Sure, but what money are we talking about?
The actual dirty little secret of college athletics is that schools run athletic programs to solicit donations from rich alumni. All these programs operate at a loss on actual revenue (ticket and merchandise sales, TV deals, etc.) But enough people donate money to the school based on the success of the football program that the school winds up making a profit that's used to fund the rest of the school.
If you shut down the football program, you can't transfer that money into academics, because a lot of that money is going to stop getting donated and the school won't have it at all.
My only complaint is that NCAA schools constantly complain that they can't pay the athletes they're exploiting for those donations, because amateurism / academics is the focus. But then you see the big bucks flowing around to the coaches and how their incentives are structured, and it makes an absolute mockery out of the concept that the academics are the focus. Hell, it's obvious that they're not even second place consideration.
If you want to keep exploiting your work force, be honest about it. But complaining "academics" when you pay your coaches millions of base salary and additional millions of bonuses for winning games and a pittance for academic progress incentives just makes you look like a politician.
I don't know what the football coach has to do with any of that. None of the academic stuff is supposed to be his priority. He's there to win football games, which is why his contract has real incentives for winning games and bullshit incentives for Academic Progress Rate. (I'm guessing you didn't check this, but Harbaugh has been above his conference's average in APR for his entire career.)
Look, I think college football players should get paid too. And so does Jim Harbaugh. After all, he's a guy who took a team of professional football players (minimum salary $300,000/yr) to the Super Bowl.
But "The head football coach makes too much money" is the dumbest possible argument you can muster to support the idea of paying these kids.
Sure, to a certain extent the schools are exploiting the players. But to try to blame that on the coach's contract, rather than a deeper problem with how the schools work, is wrong.
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@Zerosquare said in Sportsball WTF:
@GuyWhoKilledBear: I don't have any reason to disbelieve what you've said. But that makes it an even bigger
.I mean, tuition in American universities isn't cheap. It's so expensive student debt is a major issue. Yet they can't survive without rich people's donations? And said rich people don't even care about education, they're just in it for the sports?
Over the last few decades they've gone insane in hiring extra administrators and paying them exorbitant salaries. All that easy student debt has been a major cause for the increase in tuition. The money's there so they keep jacking up the prices.
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@Zerosquare said in Sportsball WTF:
@GuyWhoKilledBear: I don't have any reason to disbelieve what you've said. But that makes it an even bigger
.I mean, tuition in American universities isn't cheap. It's so expensive student debt is a major issue. Yet they can't survive without rich people's donations? And said rich people don't even care about education, they're just in it for the sports?
They're two different things.
Rich college donors what to "own" their college football team for the same reason slightly richer people want to own professional sports teams. It's prestigious to own (or "own") a winning sports team.
Colleges administrators will take money from the athletic department if offered, because why wouldn't they?
College is so expensive because Federal government subsidizes the shit out of it. That problem is completely unrelated to the athletics program.
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USA 5-0 New Zealand (Feb 20, 2022) Game Analysis - ESPN
Expert recap and game analysis of the United States vs. New Zealand Shebelieves Cup game from February 20, 2022 on ESPN.
The United States beat New Zealand 5-0 in the SheBelieves Cup in Carson, California, on Sunday afternoon thanks in large part to three own goals from New Zealand defender Meikayla Moore.
Not her best outing.
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@boomzilla said in Sportsball WTF:
Over the last few decades they've gone insane in hiring extra administrators and paying them exorbitant salaries.
They're also in a constant arms race of building more and more palatial dorms and facilities.
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A double feature Country music WTF:
Eric Church cancels sold-out concert to attend UNC-Duke Final Four showdown
What could be more important to Eric Church than playing to a sold-out crowd at AT&T Center? Watching his beloved Tar Heels battle the Duke Blue Devils for a national title berth, that's what.
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FIA Mandates Seat Belts for Sim Racing Influencers
The FIA, the world’s leading governing body for racing has mandated seatbelts for every sim racer who live streams their events to comply with the safety-conscious image of the organization.
The International Automobile Federation (FIA) is the organization that sanctions most non-US automobile racing, most famously Formula 1.
TLDR:
They also sanction some video game racing competitions, and now apparently they sanction people who stream video games online. In order to promote safety, they're requiring streamers who participate in their competitions to wear five point racing harnesses in order to promote safety. Even when they're not streaming in an FIA competition.
This is actually a very well executed April Fool's joke by this sim racing news website. I totally bit on it, and came this close to going to one of the Garage threads to bitch about it. Thank God I clicked on the PDF they link that turned out to be a picture of Rick Ashley.
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My honest opinion on the matter
The best April Fools jokes are those that go between the believable yet bizarre "real news" and the outrageous Onion/Bee-esque satire. This one achieves it pretty well.
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Yeah, they are right there on that 'This is completely asinine but yet I can still see someone doing it' line. Well done I say.
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Live on 168 hour tape delay!
MMA event flagged for suspicious betting activity
A Professional Fighters League event that was billed as a live broadcast on April 1 was actually taped a week earlier, prompting a gambling integrity monitor to flag the fights for suspicious betting activity.
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That’ll leave a mark on someone’s resume…
Congress: Commanders might have broken laws
A congressional committee has told the Federal Trade Commission it has evidence the Washington Commanders engaged in unlawful financial conduct, impacting visiting teams and season-ticket holders.
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@izzion are the Generals still keeping their noses clean? I dunno if I could take that betrayal.
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@Gribnit oh, man, Curly would have been pissed.
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Kyrie Irving Gives Celtics Fans Middle Finger, Says He's Giving the 'Same Energy' He Receives
Social media videos show the Brooklyn Nets point guard cursing at a heckler and giving other Boston Celtics fans the middle finger
Everything from Boston is terrible, so good job, Mr. Irving.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Sportsball WTF:
Social media videos show the Brooklyn Nets point guard cursing at a heckler and giving other Boston Celtics fans the middle finger
Everything from Boston is terrible, so good job, Mr. Irving.
But isn't Kyrie Irving himself from Boston?
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@izzion said in Sportsball WTF:
@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Sportsball WTF:
Social media videos show the Brooklyn Nets point guard cursing at a heckler and giving other Boston Celtics fans the middle finger
Everything from Boston is terrible, so good job, Mr. Irving.
But isn't Kyrie Irving himself from Boston?
No?
I don't follow the NBA, so I read part of the Wikipedia page you posted. He was born in Australia, he played his college ball at Duke (in North Carolina) and he currently plays for the Brooklyn Nets.
He used to play for Boston, but AIUI, he left because he hates Boston fans.
Truly a man after my own heart.
ETA: Also he grew up in New Jersey. HELL YEAH
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@GuyWhoKilledBear So, his entire life has been spent in terrible places.
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@HardwareGeek said in Sportsball WTF:
@GuyWhoKilledBear So, his entire life has been spent in terrible places.
At this rate, Florida within a decade.
Such a sad case.
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@HardwareGeek said in Sportsball WTF:
@GuyWhoKilledBear So, his entire life has been spent in terrible places.
Hey! No trolling outside the Garage.
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Hobey Baker winner banned for doping violation
Dryden McKay, the Minnesota State goaltender who won the Hobey Baker Award as the NCAA's top player, has accepted a six-month ban from competition for an anti-doping rule violation, while he gauges his professional prospects.
Why does a goaltender even dope? How much do bigger pecs help with sitting in front of a little square?
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@izzion said in Sportsball WTF:
Hobey Baker winner banned for doping violation
Dryden McKay, the Minnesota State goaltender who won the Hobey Baker Award as the NCAA's top player, has accepted a six-month ban from competition for an anti-doping rule violation, while he gauges his professional prospects.
Why does a goaltender even dope? How much do bigger pecs help with sitting in front of a little square?
Big enough that you don't even have to move?
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@topspin said in Sportsball WTF:
It's not right.
Think about it. The NHL plays with four officials on the ice - two referees and two linesmen. Only the referees are allowed to initiate a face-off, but even if you were to let the linesmen do it too, there'd only be four officials. They couldn't drop five pucks.
Also there's nine faceoff dots, not five. (Two in each offensive zone, two in each neutral zone, plus one at center ice.)
The actual NHL overtime procedures in the regular season is you play 3 periods of 20 minutes each. If you're tied at the end of regulation, there's a 5 minute, sudden death 3v3 period (3 skaters plus a goaltender per side.) If you're tied at the end of THAT, you go to a best of five shoot-out. If you're STILL tied, you keep the shoot-out going until there's a winner.
If you win the game in the first 65 minutes, but not the shootout, you're credited with a Regulation/Overtime Win (or ROW). "Who has the most ROW?" is the first tiebreaker when two teams are tied in the standings at the end of the season.
The overtime procedure in all rounds of the playoffs is called Continuous Overtime. You play a 20 minutes period of 5v5 hockey, or until someone scores to break the tie. It's sudden death, so as soon as someone scores, that's the end of the game.
If you're still tied at the end of 20 minutes, there's an intermission, and then you play another 20 minute sudden death period, followed by an intermission, and so on until somebody scores.
In principle, a playoff hockey game could go on forever.
The NHL playoffs are the best tournament in sports.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear sudden death rounds would need much more fun if the name was literal. I'm thinking exploding pucks. Note:
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The actual NHL overtime procedures in the regular season is you play 3 periods of 20 minutes each. If you're tied at the end of regulation, there's a 5 minute, sudden death 3v3 period (3 skaters plus a goaltender per side.) If you're tied at the end of THAT, you go to a best of five shoot-out. If you're STILL tied, you keep the shoot-out going until there's a winner.
Isn't it a best of 3 shoot-out now?
In principle, a playoff hockey game could go on forever.
The longest professional game was in 1936, 116 minutes of overtime.
The next closest was in 2000 clocking in at a respectable 92 minutes of overtime played.
The NHL playoffs are the best tournament in sports.
The NCAA tournament is fun to watch as well. Go DU Pioneers and their record tieing 9th national championship.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Sportsball WTF:
the best tournament in sports.
Somewhat like the "best" case of ebola.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear whoa! Cricket ON ICE!
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@Dragoon said in Sportsball WTF:
The actual NHL overtime procedures in the regular season is you play 3 periods of 20 minutes each. If you're tied at the end of regulation, there's a 5 minute, sudden death 3v3 period (3 skaters plus a goaltender per side.) If you're tied at the end of THAT, you go to a best of five shoot-out. If you're STILL tied, you keep the shoot-out going until there's a winner.
Isn't it a best of 3 shoot-out now?
In principle, a playoff hockey game could go on forever.
The longest professional game was in 1936, 116 minutes of overtime.
The next closest was in 2000 clocking in at a respectable 92 minutes of overtime played.
The NHL playoffs are the best tournament in sports.
The NCAA tournament is fun to watch as well. Go DU Pioneers and their record tieing 9th national championship.
It was so surreal to cheer for a team in Boston University colors. But they were playing Michigan, so I was able to put away the ghosts of 2009 (gawd, I'm old).
That said, the Verizon Center's upper deck has some damn good sight lines to watch a fluky deflection flutter up and over your goalie's shoulder and glide oh so slowly through the crease to drive a dagger into your heart.
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@Dragoon said in Sportsball WTF:
The actual NHL overtime procedures in the regular season is you play 3 periods of 20 minutes each. If you're tied at the end of regulation, there's a 5 minute, sudden death 3v3 period (3 skaters plus a goaltender per side.) If you're tied at the end of THAT, you go to a best of five shoot-out. If you're STILL tied, you keep the shoot-out going until there's a winner.
Isn't it a best of 3 shoot-out now?
That's right, they changed it to best of three.
The NHL playoffs are the best tournament in sports.
The NCAA tournament is fun to watch as well. Go DU Pioneers and their record tieing 9th national championship.
That it is.
DU has a special place in my heart. You guys were the first team my alma mater ever beat in the NCAA tournament. It was 2010, and the Tigers were on the way to their first (and to date, only) Frozen Four appearance.
The NCAA just changed the rules to allow otherwise-D3 schools with D1 teams to give D1 scholarships to D1 athletes.
So hopefully we'll be seeing more of each other in the NCAA tournament.
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@GuyWhoKilledBear said in Sportsball WTF:
give D1 scholarships to D1 athletes.
That thread is
. I don't remember which thread it is, but it's in the 
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I could be that guy...
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@izzion You could even call him a....Master(s) drunkard
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@izzion I mean, I do have some pride and would at least have Bud Diesel out on the course instead of Miller Lite.
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I wonder if WWE appearances fall under the new NIL rules
Juco pitcher tackles hitter on basepaths after HR
Junior college pitcher Owen Woodward tackled a hitter, Owen Woodward, who had just launched a home run during the sixth inning of a game between Weatherford College and North Central Texas College on Wednesday afternoon.
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Is there any event in sports more pure than the bean brawl?
Watch the dugouts clear in this minor league brawl that left a pitcher needing medical attention
You're never, you know, hoping for this sort of thing. But man, when it happens... it's quite a sight to see.
Kyrie Irving - Wikipedia
