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  • @_deathcollege stuff like the rest api is like the equivalent of what smalltalk did for golang or even ajax, with respect to its front end/dev flexibility, but if you're already self-signing the certificates, you may as well go full steam and plug it into something that's actually encrypted properly with ssl


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    @Gern_Blaanston said in WTF Bites:

    WTF is it doing?

    Once I realized they're basically all using the same chip, I stopped looking. Mostly because the asshole designers decided immediately presenting all drives and not preserving things like the serial number make certain disk identification tasks... tricky. Especially since removing or adding drives necessarily "bounces" the entire interface which may change the order of drives (it does not present missing drives at all to the host).

    Shitty garbage.



  • @_deathcollege Oh, they can't be literally self-signed. Self-signed certificates are positively useless. They have to be signed by a CA; only the CA itself is internal, self-signed and hardcoded in the configuration. Well, except it also will have to be updated occasionally.

    Yes, we could probably just do that in the dotnet service itself, but then we also need to generate a CRL and rotate the certificate and such and it is simpler to use something that already exists.

    There is also one thing I hate about the Microsoft libraries: everybody else uses separate PEM-encoded key and certificate, only Microsoft has to insist on binary PKCS#12, which I have to compose and split at various places. PKCS#12 looks like a good idea until you realize that the key and certificate come separately—the key is generated on the server and should never leave it while the certificate is created from the signing request by the certification authority and sent from there. So they come as two separate files. Not much reason to combine them on the server when you don't need to touch them any further there.


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    @Bulb said in WTF Bites:

    @_deathcollege Oh, they can't be literally self-signed. Self-signed certificates are positively useless. They have to be signed by a CA; only the CA itself is internal, self-signed and hardcoded in the configuration. Well, except it also will have to be updated occasionally.

    Self-signed certificates are only ever useful when you are manually distributing the public parts ahead of time. That's a total pain, very annoying and does not scale in the slightest. We use CAs so we can limit the number of self-signed certificates we need to set up, and have those sign everything else.

    I wish CAs would have stated policies about what certs they'll sign. For example, I'm happy to trust US government CAs to make statements about US government entities, but wouldn't trust them so much about Singaporean entities. Its a bit of a fail in the policy space that that sort of thing is not bound into the CA self-asserions.


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  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Gern_Blaanston said in WTF Bites:

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    @Gern_Blaanston Increased sexual activity increases cases of sex-related injuries, news at 4am!



  • I couldn't decide if this should go into the Good or Bad ideas thread.

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    ("Minimum age" for the German-disabled)



  • @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    I couldn't decide if this should go into the Good or Bad ideas thread.

    Oh, the answer is so obviously a "Yes".

    edit: Ok, WTF is up with 6, 9, 11, and 13?


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    @dcon said in WTF Bites:

    @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    I couldn't decide if this should go into the Good or Bad ideas thread.
    

    Oh, the answer is so obviously a "Yes".

    It helpfully offers a "select all" "button", whatever the meaning of that should be.



  • Assuming the numbers in the last column are the number of items that fit the criteria shown in the column with the numbers, I would expect each number in the last column to always be higher than, or at worst equal to, the one above it. I certainly wouldn’t expect it to drop from 4 back to 1, or from 9 to 2.



  • @Gurth It's a relatively small subset of the items anyway. There were over 200 of them. (I was looking at robotics kits. I'm guessing the ones that show up there are the ones that specify a minimum age, but most don't. I'd say it makes some sense to not show e.g. kits for 9+ year olds with the ones for 15+ year olds, but it's clear that not much thought was put into that selection, so you kinda get what you get. IMO it's still ages ahead of most websites in terms of overall usability...)


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    @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    IMO it's still ages ahead of most websites in terms of overall usability...

    How many megaseconds would you estimate that "ages" to be?



  • @dkf When trying to figure out how long an 'age' is, Google led me to the Wikipedia page of Astrological Age. Not the page I was expecting to end up on ever, but one of those is 2150 years. Given I wrote 'ages' (plural), we'd be looking at at least 135605 Ms. If we were to compare things to something Amazon's search and filter functionality, it's clearly more than two ages ahead, so I'd say at least 13560480 Ms.


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    @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    When trying to figure out how long an 'age' is

    Ages are generally 4–20 million years, but of course in the Quaternary (the period of special pleading), suddenly 0.004 million years counts as an ‘age’ 🙄



  • @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    @Gurth It's a relatively small subset of the items anyway.

    It still doesn’t make sense to me why four things with an age of at least 157680000 s apparently don’t also get included in the number of items whose age is at least 220752000 126144000 s.

    Edit: get the numbers the right way round for the logic


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    @Gurth said in WTF Bites:

    @cvi said in WTF Bites:

    @Gurth It's a relatively small subset of the items anyway.

    It still doesn’t make sense to me why four things with an age of at least 157680000 s apparently don’t also get included in the number of items whose age is at least 220752000 s.

    I imagine it is something like age category for movies. A 157680000s+ movie is not also a 220752000s+ movie.



  • Just catching up with my email (spam) and I see an email from LinkedIn.

    I'm... I'm in awe of whatever algorithmic fuckery this is.

    It's the usual 'top job picks for you' email - if you're on the hellspawn that is LI you know the one I mean.

    Most of the roles on the list are 'senior technical lead', 'senior technical author', etc. with a couple of educational roles because of my time in e-learning and it being too stupid to tell the difference.

    But the first suggestion it has is stellar.

    Remote Data Entry Role - Work From Home (Part Time)

    For a design company (so, notionally a rival to where I work), it's in Liverpool and I could be one of the first 3 applicants to apply if I wanted.

    Wheeeee. Fuck off.



  • @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    Remote Data Entry Role - Work From Home (Part Time)

    Subcontract the job to someone in India, and pocket the difference.



  • @Zerosquare doesn’t pay enough for that.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    It's the usual 'top job picks for you' email - if you're on the hellspawn that is LI you know the one I mean.

    I just turned all of those off. Problem solved.



  • @loopback0 wait that's a thing you can actually do?


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    @Arantor Settings, Notifications, Searching for a Job. I've got the whole section turned off, but I think it's the Job Recommendations setting that just turns those off if you're into the rest.



  • @loopback0 said in WTF Bites:

    @Arantor Settings, Notifications, Searching for a Job. I've got the whole section turned off, but I think it's the Job Recommendations setting that just turns those off if you're into the rest.

    I'm not into the rest, I only play the LinkedIn game at all because I know prospective customers see us on our website then go look us up on LinkedIn. Yay for small agencies.

    Thanks, I'll take a look at the settings, I did have a look when I first got into LinkedIn, couldn't obviously find them and just assumed 'my life is shit now' because that's how all the social medias seem to operate.


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    Status: stupid bites:

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    Yes, they sent an email and in the same breath expended to also send a snail mail (which arrived just today!).

    Really? Idiots...



  • @Tsaukpaetra and how much of that bill, I wonder, was to pay for a human's labour in printing the bill, collecting the bill, putting it into an envelope, getting it stamped for mail and putting it into a mailbox.


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    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    @loopback0 wait that's a thing you can actually do?

    It will probably get turned back on without your consent soon enough. Linked.in tends to see your preferences as suggestions only.



  • @Applied-Mediocrity I don't bother trying to limit what LinkedIn sends me; I just ignore 98% of it.



  • @HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:

    @Applied-Mediocrity I don't bother trying to limit what LinkedIn sends me; I just ignore 98% of it.

    I only get about 1 a week so I don't bother trying to limit it more...



  • WTF Quicken???

    Updating my accounts... Waiting... Waiting...
    Um, nothing has changed for about 10m...
    Ok, alt+f4 - update window closed, main app is still disabled.
    "Close" (ignored)
    TaskMgr: End the mother... (nothing)
    Fine, 🖕, reboot
    Windows: "tasks still running, continue?" Oh yeah, fucker, oh yeah.

    Dare I try syncing my accounts again?...



  • @dcon said in WTF Bites:

    @HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:

    @Applied-Mediocrity I don't bother trying to limit what LinkedIn sends me; I just ignore 98% of it.

    I only get about 1 a week so I don't bother trying to limit it more...

    I get up to about 3 a day from LinkedIn, itself — add $person to my network, I appeared in $n searches, $person posted an article on $topic — plus a variable quantity of spam from recruiters about jobs I'm not interested in, in places I don't want to live, I'm not qualified to do, or any combination of the three.

    It's not a large fraction of the daily ads from Kohl's, Best Buy, eBay, Etsy, individual eBay sellers, Steam sales, GOG, grocery store, etc., most of which just sit in my inbox unread forever.



  • @dcon said in WTF Bites:

    Dare I try syncing my accounts again?...

    Well, this time it worked like it should...



  • @dcon I sometimes get something like that with Firefox. The UI will become unresponsive in all its windows. Kill it with fireTask Manager. The windows get closed and the FF processes are killed, except for one background process that slowly divests itself of the 20GB that FF was using before it froze. That residual process is unkillable by any means other than a reboot.


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    @HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:

    except for one background process that slowly divests itself of the 20GB that FF was using

    I'm getting something like this in Chrome, but for GPU memory, now that I enabled that column in Task Manager.

    I'm sure it's an extension trying to slowly cryptomine, but I don't have the patience to enable/disable extensions to figure out which one is doing it...



  • @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    @HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:

    except for one background process that slowly divests itself of the 20GB that FF was using

    I'm getting something like this in Chrome, but for GPU memory, now that I enabled that column in Task Manager.

    I'm sure it's an extension trying to slowly cryptomine, but I don't have the patience to enable/disable extensions to figure out which one is doing it...

    If you're using Firefox you can bring up FF's task manager which will show you CPU and RAM usage per tab so you can rule out if it's an extension or a tab gone rogue.


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    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    @Tsaukpaetra said in WTF Bites:

    @HardwareGeek said in WTF Bites:

    except for one background process that slowly divests itself of the 20GB that FF was using

    I'm getting something like this in Chrome, but for GPU memory, now that I enabled that column in Task Manager.

    I'm sure it's an extension trying to slowly cryptomine, but I don't have the patience to enable/disable extensions to figure out which one is doing it...

    If you're using Firefox you can bring up FF's task manager which will show you CPU and RAM usage per tab so you can rule out if it's an extension or a tab gone rogue.

    Chrome as well, but its numbers never match what Task Manager is showing, so I trust neither of them. Chrome claims "Yeah I got only a few megs in GPU" while Task Manager says "This bitch takin' 6 gigs of your VRam bro!"



  • @Zerosquare said in WTF Bites:

    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    Remote Data Entry Role - Work From Home (Part Time)

    Subcontract the job to someone in India, and pocket the difference.

    Yep. It works greatly.
    Dilbert 2003-08-03:
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    Reddit mobile has been back to terrible-but-technically-usable (from several iterations of literally unusable), so I’ve been reading it on the phone again.
    I have noticed many times now, almost but not quite enough to be reproducible, that just zooming in (two finger pinch) makes the page break and reload. I have to zoom in when, e.g., someone posts a cartoon that I can’t otherwise read in the feed, like the Dilbert post above.
    Relevant enough: ⛔👶 used to break terribly any time I tried that by pushing side bars all over me, but at least that’s been fixed. Heck, it used to do that by scrolling down in an apparently not 100% perfect vertical move. :3px:

    Why does that happen? I guess they want to react to “swipes”, like showing stupid side bars or scrolling through picture galleries when the post contains more than one image. And then their code handles things so horribly when you pinch for a few seconds that it trips all over itself and triggers a reload.
    Conclusions:

    1. they’re too stupid to distinguish between actual, intentional “swipes” and zooming, breaking shit to the point where I’m thinking “could you just fucking not do that already?!”
    2. besides reddit and ⛔👶, I’ve seen many different places fuck things up on zooming. So it’s widespread enough that web devs are apparently not adult enough to handle this correctly.
    3. if you can’t handle it, don’t. Having these swipe events visible to JS was a mistake to begin with. It breaks basic page navigation. (Also the pages where zooming isn’t possible at all, probably intentionally, are broken by design. But I’m not sure if that’s the same mechanism.) I’d love an option to just completely kill JS access to this.


  • @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    Reddit mobile has been back to terrible-but-technically-usable (from several iterations of literally unusable), so I’ve been reading it on the phone again.
    I have noticed many times now, almost but not quite enough to be reproducible, that just zooming in (two finger pinch) makes the page break and reload. I have to zoom in when, e.g., someone posts a cartoon that I can’t otherwise read in the feed, like the Dilbert post above.
    Relevant enough: ⛔👶 used to break terribly any time I tried that by pushing side bars all over me, but at least that’s been fixed. Heck, it used to do that by scrolling down in an apparently not 100% perfect vertical move. :3px:

    Why does that happen? I guess they want to react to “swipes”, like showing stupid side bars or scrolling through picture galleries when the post contains more than one image. And then their code handles things so horribly when you pinch for a few seconds that it trips all over itself and triggers a reload.
    Conclusions:

    1. they’re too stupid to distinguish between actual, intentional “swipes” and zooming, breaking shit to the point where I’m thinking “could you just fucking not do that already?!”
    2. besides reddit and ⛔👶, I’ve seen many different places fuck things up on zooming. So it’s widespread enough that web devs are apparently not adult enough to handle this correctly.
    3. if you can’t handle it, don’t. Having these swipe events visible to JS was a mistake to begin with. It breaks basic page navigation. (Also the pages where zooming isn’t possible at all, probably intentionally, are broken by design. But I’m not sure if that’s the same mechanism.) I’d love an option to just completely kill JS access to this.

    something something viewport-size="1.0",window-size="mobile","zoom-size="100",viewport-scale="1.0" for pre-head markup indication

    #edit number 80 i have never felt more dyslexic in my life than i did in this post


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    @_deathcollege said in WTF Bites:

    i have never felt more dyslexic in my life

    No worries, we don't make fun of that here.



  • @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    Reddit mobile

    Reddit is such a :dumpster-fire: I can't even imagine trying to use it on mobile.

    But then, I also tend to be of the opinion of doing anything on a phone other than voice calls and text messages falls into the category of :doing_it_wrong:


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    @Gern_Blaanston said in WTF Bites:

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    Reddit mobile

    Reddit is such a :dumpster-fire: I can't even imagine trying to use it on mobile.

    But then, I also tend to be of the opinion of doing anything on a phone other than voice calls and text messages falls into the category of :doing_it_wrong:

    You're right. Best to do that on a personal digital assistant.


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    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    If you're using Firefox you can bring up FF's task manager which will show you CPU and RAM usage per tab so you can rule out if it's an extension or a tab gone rogue.

    Trying to open it when the UI is not responsive is a bit of a problem though.


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    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    JS was a mistake

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    I’d love an option to just completely kill JS

    Yes.


  • Discourse touched me in a no-no place

    @Zecc said in WTF Bites:

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    JS was a mistake

    @topspin said in WTF Bites:

    I’d love an option to just completely kill JS

    Yes.

    One time machine is all I'd need...


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    @dkf I prefer machines that work more than one time.



  • @Gern_Blaanston said in WTF Bites:

    voice calls

    Those still exist? 😕 :half-trolleybus-br:



  • @TimeBandit yes, they're called Zoom and Teams.


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    @Arantor said in WTF Bites:

    @TimeBandit yes, they're called Zoom and Teams.

    Preferably with the camera disconnected, or the lens covered.


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