I hate printers, with a passion
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@levicki said in I hate printers, with a passion:
So in other words you do need to use non-generic ones if you want every feature to work?
Maybe in previous versions of Windows you didn't get all the features for free but from what I can tell you do now
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@topspin said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@kazitor said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@topspin calling each other almost black but in need of a little cyan?
As evidenced, you can’t call someone black at all without any cyan.
@error_bot xkcd red car
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In actual "I hate printers, with a passion" news:
Apparently the "Samsung universal driver" that comes with Windows will not let you set the default printer to it until you've attempted to print, at which time an Internet privacy agreement is shown. Once you've agreed then you can set the default printer to it.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Internet privacy agreement
this is one of those privacy agreements that promises to respect your privacy to the exact extent promised in the agreement and not one bit more, and then proceeds to introduce clauses into the agreement that erode your privacy to the point that all they're promising not to do is hire someone to stand behind you and read what your'e reading/writing over your shoulder.
they promise not to pay someone to do that, they'll happily accept payment to allow someone to do that however.
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@error said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Vixen said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Sirius Cybernetics Corporation
They sound serious.
No, and don't call me Shirley.
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@Tsaukpaetra said in I hate printers, with a passion:
In actual "I hate printers, with a passion" news:
Apparently the "Samsung universal driver" that comes with Windows will not let you set the default printer to it until you've attempted to print, at which time an Internet privacy agreement is shown. Once you've agreed then you can set the default printer to it.
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@levicki said in I hate printers, with a passion:
I bet they are using some tortuous mechanism (read: bad coding practices if not outright abuse of the platform and API) to accomplish this.
It’s Samsung. The various threads relating to Tizen should prove enlightening.
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@Parody said in I hate printers, with a passion:
We have an inkjet multifunction printer that's worked well enough over the years. The last time I ran out of ink for it, however, HP had stopped making cartridges for it and the only ones I could get were off-brand ones. As was typical of such cartridges back when I sold them at an office store, now my printer can't reliably print color and will probably cease to be useful when the black runs out. I'd like to get a color laser to replace it, but don't have enough need at the moment.
I miss my old LaserJet 4SiMX, which served me well for a decade after being some office's workhorse for over a million pages.
I bought a Xerox MFP quite a few years back, which has functioned quite well. Only problem I used to have was getting it to cooperate with Linux, but that's been solved.
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@Tsaukpaetra
E_TABLE_NOT_WOOD
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Why not spend a million euros on a printer that won't fit through your door?
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@spike_tt Could have very well posted this In other news today so that those calculator folks y=f(x) off already
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Have I mentioned my (ongoing saga) with an HP DJ-111????
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@TheCPUWizard don’t think so. Shoot!
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@topspin said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@TheCPUWizard don’t think so. Shoot!
DJ-111, had it about 7 years, but <350 total pages printed. Not used for about a year. Power it back up and print quality was basically zero. Price out HP ink and heads, about $375. Look at reputable 3rd party, and about $80....
Colored inks do not report levels, Black ink reports failure. 3 print heads failed. Vendor for the heads RMA'ed, but the RMA literally flooded the inside of the printer with ink.
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@levicki said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Why not just buy a networked color laser with scanner for half the price of ink and head aseembly and use that DJ to make a youtube video of its painful but justified death at your hands?
Do they make color lasers that can print on 24"x∞" paper?
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@levicki said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Unperverted-Vixen said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Do they make color lasers that can print on 24"x∞" paper?
Do they make inkjet printers that don't suck regardless of the size?
No. We’ve covered this.
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@levicki said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Inkjet printers need at least one page printed per day to prevent printing heads from getting clogged with dried ink.
One sec, I'm setting up a cron job to print
Hello world
every day at 3am...
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@Tsaukpaetra said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@levicki said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Inkjet printers need at least one page printed per day to prevent printing heads from getting clogged with dried ink.
One sec, I'm setting up a cron job to print
Hello world
every day at 3am...Unlikely to be needed, if you leave the thing on. My last couple of HPs would clean themselves every so often when they weren't being used. Uses a bit of ink but no paper.
I don't know if the DesignJets do that too, but then again if you're buying a wide-body roll printer you shouldn't be leaving it turned off for a year.If you did want to set up an automatic print job for these purposes you should do something that prints from all the print cartridges, across the entire print width, and in a way that lets you see when there's problems. This could be a test print with various blocks of colors or just the printer's built-in alignment test.
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@levicki said in I hate printers, with a passion:
maybe not per day, but at least per week to keep it in working order.
Guess my Canon I got for something like $20 because it was bundled with a computer is toast then. I haven't turned that on for a couple years... B&W (laser) prints have been sufficient for my needs...
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@levicki said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@TheCPUWizard Why not just buy a networked color laser with scanner for half the price of ink and head aseembly and use that DJ to make a youtube video of its painful but justified death at your hands?
Because I use it to make 22 inch wide prints that can be well over 10 feet in length.
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@Parody said in I hate printers, with a passion:
My last couple of HPs would clean themselves every so often when they weren't being used. Uses a bit of ink but no paper.
I don't know if the DesignJets do that too, but then again if you're buying a wide-body roll printer you shouldn't be leaving it turned off for a year.Yes, the DJ-111 does do that, and for the majority of the time it was left plugged in, and there were never any problems.
It only became unplugged when some equipment was moved while I was in hospital, and I simply never noticed until I needed it.
Full expectation that there would be problems, so that is not really my issue at all. It is much more of an issue with replacing both ink and print heads (along with using a syringe to flush and fill the feeder tubes) and the vendors lack of any helpful info.
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@El_Heffe said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Cursorkeys said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Yeah, I'd had enough of inkjet shenanigans, so I got a mono laser for home. It's still on the toner cartridge that came with it and I think it's at least 5 years old.
My cheap mono laser printer at home has been complaining for months that it is "low on toner".
Still prints just fine
Mine has been complaining about low toner for years. (HP LaserJet 4100N).
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@spike_tt said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Why not spend a million euros on a printer that won't fit through your door?
Does it fit through the window?
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@djls45 said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Does it fit through the window?
Maybe, but are you strong enough to throw it out?
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@topspin said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Maybe, but are you strong enough to throw it out?
That matters more to the person who is at that specific moment trying to pick up the penny superglued to the pavement right under said window :bofh:
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@topspin said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@djls45 said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Does it fit through the window?
Maybe, but are you strong enough to throw it out?
Maybe. Almost certainly so if I can break it down into smaller pieces.
Filed under: Destruction, Defenestration, Catharsis
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@topspin said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@djls45 said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Does it fit through the window?
Maybe, but are you strong enough to throw it out?
Sounds like a task for Czech parliament!
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@slapout1 said in I hate printers, with a passion:
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@topspin said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@djls45 said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Does it fit through the window?
Maybe, but are you strong enough to throw it out?
In my case, I wouldn't defenstrate a printer. Debalconate it(1), maybe. Five floors' worth of drop would definitely wreck the printer, regardless of how the drop began. Problem is that it would also wreck whoever it was's car that it landed on in the street below.
(1) Er, throw it off the balcony, duh.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
In my case, I wouldn't defenstrate a printer. Debalconate it(1), maybe. Five floors' worth of drop would definitely wreck the printer, regardless of how the drop began. Problem is that it would also wreck whoever it was's car that it landed on in the street below.
That requires you to lift it. But I think the BOFH has floor-to-ceiling windows for with a broken catch. And it's above the management parking lot, so it's all winners.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Problem is that it would also wreck whoever it was's car that it landed on in the street below.
so call the salesperson from the printer manufacturer and ahve them visit. reserve them a parking spot on the road under the balcony. Problem solved!
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@Vixen said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Problem is that it would also wreck whoever it was's car that it landed on in the street below.
so call the salesperson from the printer manufacturer and ahve them visit. reserve them a parking spot on the road under the balcony. Problem solved!
An interesting thought, except that the printer I would, in the hypothetical case, be debalconating would be my own, and such a salesperson is unlikely to visit me at home.
(Note: I describe it as a hypothetical case because my printer is (a) a colour laser and (b) very functional, so I'm not going to debalconate it.)
(Note: It's an HP Color LaserJet Pro M252dw, and works really well despite a tendency for the firmware to stop listening to the network if I leave it up too long.)
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@Gąska said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@topspin said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@djls45 said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Does it fit through the window?
Maybe, but are you strong enough to throw it out?
Sounds like a task for Czech parliament!
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
HP Color LaserJet Pro M252dw
I have a
HP Color LaserJet MFP M476dn
that did that too! Firmware update helped with that, but then broke SMB access and so I had to put in hacks on the server so the Scan-to-Network function worked again...
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
It's an HP Color LaserJet Pro M252dw, and works really well despite a tendency for the firmware to stop listening to the network if I leave it up too long.
Hopefully this isn't something we have to look forward to with all the new HPs we had put in last week, although ours are special managed models.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
HP Color LaserJet Pro M252dw
I have one of these, too. Works like a charm, barely ever had any problems with it. Haven't noticed any network drop issues, but then I usually only turn it on when I have something to print.
Night and day compared to the Samsung-multi-function crap thing I had before, which had at least one paper jam per sheet printed, and after a year or so some kind of adhesive tape came unstuck in the scanner that left a shadow over each scan.
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@ixvedeusi said in I hate printers, with a passion:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
HP Color LaserJet Pro M252dw
I have one of these, too. Works like a charm, barely ever had any problems with it. Haven't noticed any network drop issues, but then I usually only turn it on when I have something to print.
I power-cycle mine once a week, based on a to-do list recurring task. Works well enough for me, and at least I don't have to remember to turn it on before printing. It may have pulled an update that fixed that. I should investigate, maybe. On the other hand, when I said "up long enough" I meant weeks rather than hours.
Easiest toner-change system I've ever seen, though:
- Pull the front cover open.
- Pull out the toner-cartridge tray.
- Lift out the old one.
- Shake the new one a bit.
- Lower the new one into place.
- Push the tray back in.
- Close the front.
And, of course, for maximum amusement in the context of this thread, the cartridge I changed was ... cyan.
Night and day compared to the Samsung-multi-function crap thing I had before, which had at least one paper jam per sheet printed, and after a year or so some kind of adhesive tape came unstuck in the scanner that left a shadow over each scan.
I'm inclined to say it's the "multifuncton" part rather than the "Samsung" part that makes it crap. Or maybe the "dirt-cheap" part.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
the cartridge I changed was ... cyan.
Funny enough, that is the same for me as well!
The black one is on hand for when the needful needs doing.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in I hate printers, with a passion:
I'm inclined to say it's the "multifuncton" part rather than the "Samsung" part that makes it crap. Or maybe the "dirt-cheap" part.
I think so, too. My previous and current printers are Samsung ones, and they're pretty trouble-free.
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Found this online. appears to be relevant to inkjet printers
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Fortunately, we're safe. There's no way a printer would print something like this without jamming.
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@Zerosquare said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Fortunately, we're safe. There's no way a printer would print something like this without jamming.
3D printer?
Nah, wait, probably not either.
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@Vixen said in I hate printers, with a passion:
Found this online. appears to be relevant to inkjet printers
Oh no! It's Printhulhu!
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@dkf Cyan fhtagn
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@dkf Printquelhu