The Official Status Thread
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@stillwater said in The Official Status Thread:
@benjamin-hall Are you entertaining any paranormal causes at this point?
Unlikely. My guess is that when I moved a year ago, I warped the frame and so it's been under stress. I've used (and moved) it more this summer than previously, so that's made it worse. Tonight was just when it failed.
@heterodox yeah. Still leaves tiny glass dust behind, so I'm going to have to be careful for a while. And of course this next week is when my parents are coming for a few days...
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@blakeyrat said in The Official Status Thread:
It worked to trick the rating system but a lot of banks and traders ended up with loan packages that were a whole lot worse than they'd expected and the whole thing came crashing down.
On top of that, they came up with this way to "insure" an investment. As in, they could turn to someone and say "hey buddy if you give me $100 now, I'll pay you the full $1000 your investment is worth if it crashes".
Except you could ask for the $100 from someone who didn't even own the investment. So I could ask you, Blakeyrat, for $100 for Boomzilla's investment, even though neither of us have anything to do with the investment. It's great for you, because for the sake of argument, $100 is not much money-- and if Boomzilla's investment does go bust, you get free money.
It's good for me, because Boomzilla's investment is rock solid so there's no chance I'll ever have to pay out on this.
And besides, I took my stake in Boomzilla's investment and your $100, and went to Pie_Flavor who said that if I give him $100, and if Boomzilla's investment goes bust, he'll give me $2000.
Little do I know Pie_Flavor has someone who will pay him $3000 in the same scenario.
Everyone's doing this all over the place, and everyone's making their little bits of "free" money, and no one knows that it's all one big chain of IOUs, but no one cares because the investment will never go bust anyways.
And then it turns out the rock solid investment, which had always been rock solid in the past-- was Lehman Brothers, who just fucked themselves to death with sub-prime mortgage tranches.
The guy at the end of the chain, who has been collecting lots of $100, and now owes, like, 576 billion dollars-- obviously doesn't have that money. Because no one was regulating this insurance, because the banks explicitly made sure it wasn't called insurance so they didn't get regulated, because the free market blah blah blah. So he goes bust-- and the people he owed money to owe $433 billion to other people, who owe $198 billion to others, and so on. There's a whole cascade of people who owe way more than they can ever pay, and they all go bankrupt.
Which, of course, fucks over all their OTHER holdings, which amplifies the cascade of We're Fucked, which collides with the wave of No Really We're Really Fucked that the subprime crash is causing, which crashes the entire US economy.
Then a bunch of bankers somehow get trillions of dollars because "lol oops", and everyone loses their homes.
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@lorne-kates said in The Official Status Thread:
And then it turns out the rock solid investment, which had always been rock solid in the past-- was Lehman Brothers
The fools! Should have invested in Boomzilla instead! Far more reliable (if less active because of course).
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@stillwater I still remember the time when I put in some more RAM (sticks listed as compatible in my mobo's manual and identical to the ones already in place).
And Linux would promptly hard-crash into a black screen upon bootup.
While Windows was like: "Yo, more RAM? Me like!"
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@heterodox said in The Official Status Thread:
nvidia
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@greybeard I don't think NVIDIA gives half a fuck about what Linus says or thinks about them.
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@stillwater If the reputed quality of their drivers and support software is anything to go by, they're just as dismissive of Microsoft too.
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@dkf Nothing can beat ATI software for shittiness.
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Downloaded registry hive files from a system via TFTP and couldn't figure out why I couldn't read them at all. After an hour or so I figured out duh, I needed to set binary first. It's been so long since I've needed to do that with any protocol.
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@heterodox said in The Official Status Thread:
Downloaded registry hive files from a system via TFTP
I'm sensing a bigger WTF...
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@tsaukpaetra Doing a pen-testing lab. TFTP is the only service available on the machine and you have to figure out how to fully compromise the box only using that. Managed it after a few hours of research. It was pretty fun.
Edit: Representative line:
Received 9011200 bytes in 5902.6 seconds
. This was a slow one.
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Status was going to go to an event. Too sleepy to drive safely. Staying home and going to bed early. Which, knowing me, means I won't be able to actually get to sleep for a while. Such is life.
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@stillwater said in The Official Status Thread:
Did you manage to enjoy the chicken pie in the middle of all this fuckery?
Update: Chicken pot pie is delicious.
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@tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@heterodox said in The Official Status Thread:
Downloaded registry hive files from a system via TFTP
I'm sensing a bigger WTF...
Yeah... FTP.
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Status: Attempting to resurrect a Dell Dimension 4550 desktop PC at the behest of friend.
It has a stunning 2.53 GHz Pentium 4 with 1 Gb DDR RAM, 60 Gb of slowly spinning rust (on IDE), and a Netgear WG311T Wifi card.
Windows 7 decides it doesn't want to be installed no matter what, so now I'm looking into Linux.
Turns out, distros being compiled for i686-likes are getting more difficult to get working.
Trying a Suse-based distro that tries (and fails) to be a ChromeOS-like. It... kinda works?
I got connected to WiFi at least, which is more than I can say about the Windows XP that was on it before.
Did updates using "YaST". It took only 20 minutes, but ended with a message" At least one of the updates installed requires restart of the session. Log out and in again as soon as possible."
Well, at least it's not forcing me to reboot. In fact, it asked so nicely, I'm going to do it anyway!
Rebooted. Looks good so fa... Oh dear. Message "Oh no! Something has gone wrong. A problem has occurred and the system can't recover. Please log out and try again."
Ok, fine, maybe something weird. Let's restart again, that usually fixes things right?
Nope. It's fucked.
Serves me right for updating....
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@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@heterodox said in The Official Status Thread:
Downloaded registry hive files from a system via TFTP
I'm sensing a bigger WTF...
Yeah... FTP.
Ummm... Fuck the Police?
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@Gribnit said in The Official Status Thread:
@dkf Nothing can beat ATI software for shittiness.
Except Nvidia software...
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@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@heterodox said in The Official Status Thread:
Downloaded registry hive files from a system via TFTP
I'm sensing a bigger WTF...
Yeah... FTP.
No, TFTP. Stands for Trivial File Transfer Protocol, and apart from the basic purpose it's completely unrelated to FTP or SFTP. Not sure if it's better or worse though.
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@PleegWat You can't even get file listings through it. So I'm going to go with worse. (Also seems to be incredibly slow, per the stats in one of my posts above, though I don't know if that's the protocol or everything else that was going on on my connection at the time.)
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@heterodox All I know about it, apart from the name, is that PXE booting uses it and one of the first things a PXE-booted OS does is establish a connection to the fileserver over a different protocol.
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Damn it. Got up at 5 a.m. (only three hours of sleep) and loaded up on caffeine for a 7 a.m. appointment then realized the appointment is actually at 8:30 a.m. and I can't get back to sleep now. Ah well. -_-
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@heterodox at least it gives caffeine time to kick in.
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@Onyx said in The Official Status Thread:
@heterodox at least it gives caffeine time to kick in.
I mean, caffeine kicked in in about 15 minutes; that's why I can't go back to sleep. Now I'm worried about crashing. :x
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@heterodox Ah. Well, good luck, hope it goes well regardless.
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Status: Too hot, can it please go back to being cold so I can complain about that instead?
Made a thing out of stuff on my desk to help:
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@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
No, TFTP. Stands for Trivial File Transfer Protocol, and apart from the basic purpose it's completely unrelated to FTP or SFTP. Not sure if it's better or worse though.
Point taken. Google said it was "simpler than" FTP, which I incorrectly took to mean that it's a simplified version.
But both of them are file transfer protocols, neither has any sort of checksum validation to make sure files were copied correctly, and both of them will break yo shit (by design!) if you don't put them in "binary" mode. So they're effectively the same for the purposes of this WTF.
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@pleegwat said in The Official Status Thread:
Not sure if it's better or worse though.
TFTP is worse, except that it doesn't need nearly as much code to implement. In particular, it doesn't need a full TCP/IP stack; it can work with UDP support and that's much smaller. For the initial system bootstrap code, that's a bonus because that means less code in a place where it is horrible to change it.
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Status: Dammit, it seems Naturebox discontinued the "regular shipment subscription" model and now moved to a "We'll still bill you every X weeks as a "membership fee", but that gets added to your account as store credit and now you have to go to the site and pick out stuff for us to ship you every time" model.
And they did this about 2 months ago...without me noticing because the emails got flagged as spam for some reason.
Oh well, at least I have $100 store credit. Used half of that, will probably use up the other half and then figure out how to deactivate the account because it's no longer really worth it.
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@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@heterodox said in The Official Status Thread:
Downloaded registry hive files from a system via TFTP
I'm sensing a bigger WTF...
Yeah... FTP.
No, TFTP. Stands for Trivial File Transfer Protocol, and apart from the basic purpose it's completely unrelated to FTP or SFTP. Not sure if it's better or worse though.
time to make some software named MSFTP, which stands for "mildly seasoned fried turkey purchaser", just to muddy the waters some more
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@ben_lubar said in The Official Status Thread:
"mildly seasoned fried turkey purchaser"
Work's just finished and I was going to go home and make Szechuan-style edamame beans, all I can think about is jerked turkey breast now. Must resist.
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@Cursorkeys said in The Official Status Thread:
Made a thing out of stuff on my desk to help:
Looks very similar to what I put inside my desktop after GPU fan died.
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@dkf After trying a AMD Radeon recently, I went running and screaming back to NVidia's "bad" drivers.
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@Tsaukpaetra If Linux developers don't have the manpower to do regression testing on actually-current hardware, why would you imagine this ancient hardware would work at all?
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@Cursorkeys Why did you have a big-ass 12v battery just sitting on your desk? What was it originally for?
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@blakeyrat said in The Official Status Thread:
@Tsaukpaetra If Linux developers don't have the manpower to do regression testing on actually-current hardware, why would you imagine this ancient hardware would work at all?
Because they would have stopped touching it once the new shiny came along.
And it does seem to work well enough (for Linux standards). Can't do things like play YouTube at more then 5 FPS, but I can say that about in IBM T42 laptops with similar specs.
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@blakeyrat said in The Official Status Thread:
@Cursorkeys Why did you have a big-ass 12v battery just sitting on your desk? What was it originally for?
It appears to be a UPS battery.
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@Cursorkeys Jerking's not mild.
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@blakeyrat said in The Official Status Thread:
@Cursorkeys Why did you have a big-ass 12v battery just sitting on your desk? What was it originally for?
@Tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
It appears to be a UPS battery.
Yep, @Tsaukpaetra has it. Those are 'dead' batteries from my desk UPS, I haven't got around to putting them in a hazmat bin yet (because paperwork) so laziness has helped here. They have enough puff left to run that fan that came out of a dead power-supply.
@Gribnit said in The Official Status Thread:
@Cursorkeys Jerking's not mild.
Really? Guess I haven't had proper jerked <insert_thing> before. I'd put it at Jalapeño rather than Scotch bonnet.
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@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@heterodox said in The Official Status Thread:
Downloaded registry hive files from a system via TFTP
I'm sensing a bigger WTF...
Yeah... FTP.
No, TFTP. Stands for Trivial File Transfer Protocol, and apart from the basic purpose it's completely unrelated to FTP or SFTP. Not sure if it's better or worse though.
As the name suggests, it's only meant for trivial files. TRWTF is that it's often used to transfer important ones.
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@Cursorkeys I think I was referring more to the amount of rub used usually being quite a lot, to the point of crusting, but, since there's a scale handy, I'd put it at Haban̰ero
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@PleegWat said in The Official Status Thread:
@anotherusername said in The Official Status Thread:
@tsaukpaetra said in The Official Status Thread:
@heterodox said in The Official Status Thread:
Downloaded registry hive files from a system via TFTP
I'm sensing a bigger WTF...
Yeah... FTP.
No, TFTP. Stands for Trivial File Transfer Protocol, and apart from the basic purpose it's completely unrelated to FTP or SFTP. Not sure if it's better or worse though.
TFTP is trivial because the implementation is trivial. And so you see it a lot in embedded systems with very little RAM and not much of a filesystem. (PXE booting is the only non-avionics usage of TFTP that I'm aware of.)
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@Gribnit said in The Official Status Thread:
@Cursorkeys I think I was referring more to the amount of rub used usually being quite a lot, to the point of crusting, but, since there's a scale handy, I'd put it at Haban̰ero
I looked at Wikipedia after you said that and one of the main ingredients is literally supposed to be Habanero. So I guess I need to find a better Jerk spice mix or try making my own.
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@mott555 Unless PXE covers the usage within network configurations, it's also used within some network configurations in their control vpns.
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@Cursorkeys Please leave the excess of mild jerk under a park bench by a pond with ducks in memory of me. I am banned from all spice.
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@Cursorkeys said in The Official Status Thread:
Habanero. So I guess I need to find a better
There seem to be some popular and very mild strains of Habanero used these days, I assume so people can claim they love hot food without actually eating hot food.
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@Gribnit said in The Official Status Thread:
@mott555 Unless PXE covers the usage within network configurations, it's also used within some network configurations in their control vpns.
I forgot about Cisco updates. I haven't had to touch any of that since college, thank God.
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@blakeyrat said in The Official Status Thread:
@dkf After trying a AMD Radeon recently, I went running and screaming back to NVidia's "bad" drivers.
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@mott555 said in The Official Status Thread:
PXE booting is the only non-avionics usage of TFTP that I'm aware of
I've seen it used to fetch configuration on some SIP phones also.
FileUnder: Yes, I've worked with Asterisk too
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@gribnit said in The Official Status Thread:
I am banned from all spice.
But are you banned from all sauce? What about salt?