So they let the C++ pre-processor have a go at thier licence then? :)
[code] #define COMMERCIAL_USE distribution or otherwise making the Covered Code available to a third party. [/code]...blardy blar COMMERCIAL_USE blah blah..
So they let the C++ pre-processor have a go at thier licence then? :)
[code] #define COMMERCIAL_USE distribution or otherwise making the Covered Code available to a third party. [/code]...blardy blar COMMERCIAL_USE blah blah..
@morbiuswilters said:
Congrats on finally getting a good job.
Thanks! I was very lucky in the end to find something so easily, I was only looking for about 2-3 months while finishing my degree.
@morbiuswilters said:
I apologize if I came off sounding harsh...
No worries! Having re-read my post I realised that I had not been very specific and you could get the impression that I was expecting things to be handed over on a silver platter!
@WitherVoice: I neglected to mention that this all took place in the UK. I don't have anything to compare with elsewhere in the world, where abouts are you based?
@morbiuswilters said:
@xan said:
My third interview nearly never happened at all. I had an initial telephone interview and was then called for a face-to-face, but I was ill in the week before the scheduled date and had to cancel. I contacted my agent and asked her to reschedule and get back to me. About a week later I got a phone call out of the blue from the interviewer, who, sounding rather irritated, asked "where are you?"! It turned out that the agent had been most efficient in rearranging the interview, but had sadly never thought to tell me. I ground my teeth, apologised profusely and rearranged the interview personally.Unless you had pneumonia, canceling an interview because you were ill days before the interview is pretty weak. And when it comes to things like scheduling it is your responsibility to check back and see if there is a new appointment time. It's lame your recruiter didn't tell you about it, but it shows a real lack of initiative and maturity on your part to just let it go and then blame the recruiter for it.
I absolutely take your point and I certainly would not have cancelled unless it was pretty desperate. Suffice it to say that I was still actually in bed on the day my interview should have been, in between frequent visits to the bathroom. As far as the communication side of it goes, I guess I could, and perhaps should, have persued the agent more. However I was in contact with them in the meantime and for all other interviews they had arranged, they had required a reply to the "notification of interview" email before finalising the details. In this case I had not even said that I was available on the day that the interview got scheduled on, although, most irritatingly I could easily have been there with even a couple of hours notice!
I guess the moral of the story, as you have pointed out, and the point I was trying to make, is that you really can't rely on intermediaries to arrange this kind of thing. In theory they are professional, experienced and helpful. In practice, while many I am sure are, you still need to personally oversee the whole process and take a good deal of responsibility for it. In the end I did much better arranging things entirely at a personal level and cutting out the middle man. I feel sure that having applied directly to the company scored a point in my favour too, both in terms of showing initiative and costing them less money. When eventually I did get to my 3rd interview, my interviewer advised me to ditch any agents I was using and to strike out totally on my own. The impression I got was that this was not the first time that an agent had messed them around.
@WhiskeyJack said:
While I emphathize with your frustrating recruiter experiences, I wouldn't necessarily dismiss a position that sounds like you might not be quite as experienced as the job posting (unless it's something very clear, like a new grad applying for a senior engineering position).
Which was almost exactly the case as it happened (something I didn't make explicit in my original post). One of the companies requirements (for a tool programmer) was something along the lines of: "at least 3 years industry experiance and several demonstratable examples of visual applications designed to the highest standard.... I hadn't even graduated from uni at that point and had never developed tools with GUI's, to any standard, beyond "here is a button on a form"!
@bjolling said:
...tried to change my mind over the phone, for more than one hour.
So they are dedicated when there is comission on the cards then?
:DThanks!
Perhaps I was nieve in assuming that (professional) recruiters for a specific industry might actually know thier buisness? Even thier failure to actually process my details themselves, instead relying on me repeating myself parrot fashion, didn't surprise me greatly. However, I found it almost inconcievable that the most fundamental of thier tasks, that of arranging interviews, should have been cocked up to the extent of not telling the partisipant!
I was in the last 6 months of my Computer Science degree and starting to think about getting a job after university. I wanted to get into the games industry as a programmer, so I put my CV up on a few industry websites as a first step, and was promptly picked up by a couple of different agents.
The first agent who got back to me appeared initially helpful. They had gone through their books and found a number of apparently suitable positions for me to apply for. Things went ahead and soon I had my first interview. This involved a drive of over 4 hours and an overnight stay and didn't go nearly as well as I had hoped. The 2 hour exam had some very nasty specifics on it and the at the interview many of the questions were over my head. I left a little confused, but was enlightened a few days later by a friend who had also interviewed there. He had been told on the day, after an equally long drive, that they were "only looking to hire graphics programmers". My CV clearly showed that I had no experience in this area; I had been told to expect an interview for a junior / graduate programmer role!
My second interview went much better; friendly people and I didn't disgrace myself in the programming test, but I never heard anything back from the company. My agent assured me that she was trying to contact them, but in light of later events I am not so sure. After a month I got fed up of pestering my agent every few days and wrote it off as a bad experience.
My third interview nearly never happened at all. I had an initial telephone interview and was then called for a face-to-face, but I was ill in the week before the scheduled date and had to cancel. I contacted my agent and asked her to reschedule and get back to me. About a week later I got a phone call out of the blue from the interviewer, who, sounding rather irritated, asked "where are you?"! It turned out that the agent had been most efficient in rearranging the interview, but had sadly never thought to tell me. I ground my teeth, apologised profusely and rearranged the interview personally.
The second agent who contacted me was even less helpful than the first. She phoned me initially to get some background information, and it was immediately clear that she had done no more than read the phone number from my CV. The conversation lasted an agonising half an hour as I reiterated every minute detail which was clearly listed on my CV: no I was not a graduate, I would be finishing university in the summer; no, I didn't have any industry experience.
A few days later she called me again to tell me about the opportunities available. There were three she thought I would be suitable for... every one I had already seen advertised elsewhere, had looked into and had disregarded as well out of my league! Each wanted much more experienced candidates than myself; I told her I was not prepared to waste their precious time, or my own, and left it at that.
My final interview was a dream. I contacted the company directly, emailing my CV and a friendly enquiry. They got back to me within the hour and arranged an interview for the following week. The interview went well and they offered me the job the following day! I am sure they were just as please as me not to have had to go through an agent! I've just finished my first month at work and am loving it.
@snoofle said:
try the <pre> tag:
try {
FileManager.Save(Data, OpenCurrentFileStream(System.IO.FileAccess.ReadWrite) );
} catch (System.UnauthorizedAccessException) {
MessageBox.Show("File is probably Read Only, check it out or something", "Save Error");
}
Many thanks :)
Seen in code at work, I love error messages like this :D.
try
{
FileManager.Save(Data, OpenCurrentFileStream(System.IO.FileAccess.ReadWrite) );
}
catch( System.UnauthorizedAccessException )
{
MessageBox.Show("File is probably Read Only, check it out or something", "Save Error");
}
Edit: how do you retain original formatting? :S