.net foundation brouhaha
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@stillwater said in .net foundation brouhaha:
Xcode is special cos when it breaks on you for no reason with a bizarre error there is always someone out there who’ll go “you’re doing it all wrong Xcode is fine” and make you feel like you’re too stupid!
That, and everything else it does wrong I guess.
I've only worked with that flaming turdpile a miniscule amout, but during that miniscule amount of work, it managed to get everything wrong. It was slow, it crashed all the fucking time, it managed to corrupt files, it was a fucking beast to download, and I had to do an update which basically stopped any work from happening for a couple of hours and... The fanbase is the Apple fanbase so that's also horrible and you won't get any help there.
I never used the Lotus IDE, but I wouldn't be surprised if the experience is somewhat close.
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@dkf said in .net foundation brouhaha:
@stillwater said in .net foundation brouhaha:
Which version? What OS?
All versions. macOS.
VS has been available for macOS since VS 2019
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@Carnage The best part about it is the only way you can work with it without going insane is to not be intuitive at all about anything. Just do everything ass backwards and it will probably work. It’s so confusing I’m lost for words I don’t even know how to describe it. So much arcane button clicking to do simple stuff.
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@loopback0 said in .net foundation brouhaha:
@dkf said in .net foundation brouhaha:
@stillwater said in .net foundation brouhaha:
Which version? What OS?
All versions. macOS.
VS has been available for macOS since VS 2019
I'm not sure that we've got a site license for it though. Yes, I know we've got the site license for the Windows version, but I don't recall ever seeing anything about the macOS version on our internal website listing these things. Nor have I heard of anyone wanting to use it, or seen any support requests.
Does it work? I dunno. I use Eclipse (as most of my dev work these days is in Python, C, or Java). I also don't see the problems that @Gąska mentioned up-thread, but I've no idea about why that might be so. (The only bug I'm aware of right now relates to a failure to relaunch the typescript language server in some circumstances.)
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@dkf I worked on a Solution with about 40 projects. It was a PITA with VS. VS Code with some help from the CLI was not as good as VS but compared to the load time issues and crashes wirh VS and the weird ass flood of errors out of nowhere that go away when you stand upside down for 20 seconds that VS had, VS Code + CLI was a much faster workflow IMO. Haven’t touched VS in over a year.
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@dkf said in .net foundation brouhaha:
Does it work? I dunno. I use Eclipse (as most of my dev work these days is in Python, C, or Java). I also don't see the problems that @Gąska mentioned up-thread, but I've no idea about why that might be so. (The only bug I'm aware of right now relates to a failure to relaunch the typescript language server in some circumstances.)
I've not tried it as we also only have standalone licenses for the Windows version.
I'm not a heavy user of either but I do prefer VS to Eclipse, although IME the Git integration in Eclipse works more reliably (compared to VS 2017 at least).
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@loopback0 you still on VS 17?!
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@stillwater I don't use it enough to justify the cost of a license for 2019 and 2017 is still supported.
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@stillwater said in .net foundation brouhaha:
Xcode is special cos when it breaks on you for no reason with a bizarre error there is always someone out there who’ll go “you’re doing it all wrong Xcode is fine” and make you feel like you’re too stupid!
Sounds like Eclipse.
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@dkf said in .net foundation brouhaha:
I use Eclipse (as most of my dev work these days is in Python, C, or Java). I also don't see the problems that @Gąska mentioned up-thread, but I've no idea about why that might be so.
Granted, last time I used it was over 6 years ago. And the project had rather weird setup.
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FWIW, give Rider a try. I was super skeptical but has got little bells and whistles I didn’t even know I needed and everything feels snappy. Might be the case since I’ve never used Resharper.
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@stillwater said in .net foundation brouhaha:
FWIW, give Rider a try. I was super skeptical but has got little bells and whistles I didn’t even know I needed and everything feels snappy. Might be the case since I’ve never used Resharper.
That's what keeps me from trying Rider. I fucking hate Resharper.
: From the creators of Resharper...
: Nope, I'm out.
: ..the new streamlined experience...
: Already said no.
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@stillwater said in .net foundation brouhaha:
FWIW, give Rider a try.
I hate that IDE family. There's just something about how they work that truly doesn't click with my brain.
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@Gąska said in .net foundation brouhaha:
@stillwater said in .net foundation brouhaha:
Xcode is special cos when it breaks on you for no reason with a bizarre error there is always someone out there who’ll go “you’re doing it all wrong Xcode is fine” and make you feel like you’re too stupid!
Sounds like Eclipse.
From 2005?
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@loopback0 said in .net foundation brouhaha:
cost of a license
I use the Community version. (personal and open source stuff only)
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@dcon said in .net foundation brouhaha:
@loopback0 said in .net foundation brouhaha:
cost of a license
I use the Community version. (personal and open source stuff only)Yes but I mean at work.
