Horrible place to work
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@dcon said in Horrible place to work:
@PleegWat said in Horrible place to work:
Trains rarely, if ever, beat cars on time or cost, let alone both, even station-to-station.
When I was commuting to San Francisco, it was definitely better cost-wise. Especially when factoring in parking. Time? Yeah, not so much.
This isn't a reliable analysis, nor a universal one.
For irrelevant reasons, around 2000 I went with Mrs Cynic from Oxford (England), where we lived, to Bournemouth (also in England) and back. It was a day trip, and the cost by car was about £20 for petrol and maybe ten quid for parking. We did check on trains. £69 per person return.
OK, granted, it's not a commuting distance(1), but still...
(1) It's worth observing that if the office was near to la Gare du Nord, I could in theory commute to Paris, somewhat in excess of 150 miles, but that's because French high speed trains actually are high speed if they are running on the high-speed lines. It would be a long commute (the part in the TGV is an hour), and expensive, but it's just barely within the bounds of reason.
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@boomzilla said in Horrible place to work:
it generally entails a long walk
It's the best sort of exercise regime, as it is the kind where you do it even when the weather is terrible!
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@HardwareGeek said in Horrible place to work:
I can tell you exactly when things got odd for me. Friday, 13 March
I started working from home the day before. Not quite sure when (later!) the official lockdowns commenced, but that was the point where I couldn't tolerate the (perceived) risk (due to commuting by train) any more.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Horrible place to work:
the cost by car was about £20 for petrol and maybe ten quid for parking
When you're considering commuting, you have to allow for the costs of car ownership that you usually ignore for one-off trips. In addition, you can get travel for a lot less if you're commuting; one-off trips (especially if tickets are purchased for immediate travel) are the most expensive option.
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@bobjanova said in Horrible place to work:
Yeah but how long does it take to get from your house to a railway station
I was in a lucky position that it also took just 6 minutes.
and to wait for the next train?
You already leave for work at the same time everyday, don't you? It's not hard to adjust to the train schedule.
And how long to get from the central station to where you want to be?
The stations are frequent enough and the buses and trams are routed well enough that it takes no more than 10-15 minutes in the extreme case. My office specifically was 2 tram stops away from central station, so about 5 minutes. And the last stop was right at the front door.
All in all - in the worst case, you are as fast as the cars. On average, you're like 30% quicker. And you don't have to look for a parking spot, so you can do the entire commute on full autopilot, down to every single footstep.
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@HardwareGeek said in Horrible place to work:
I just ran across this question on SE.
Company banned references, senior engineer subverting ban; should I go along with free "workaround"?
My employer (3000+ employees) is a large software engineering company. The company is actually doing well (as per our latest financial report), but is canceling and/or delaying promotions/bonuses/e...
They need to be made an example of.
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@Steve_The_Cynic said in Horrible place to work:
It was a day trip, and the cost by car was about £20 for petrol and maybe ten quid for parking. We did check on trains. £69 per person return.
Back when I was doing this, gas was around $5/gal. A one-way trip was 50mi, I got around 25mpg (actually in city driving, less). And the train ticket was 8 or 9. So I had a savings just on fuel. SF parking was 20/day I think - probably more. (5 min bike to my station, 15 min at the work end) For the 15mos I worked there, the only time I drove was the interview. The downside was it took 2hrs door-to-door.
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@Gąska said in Horrible place to work:
It's not hard to adjust to the train schedule.
It's not. And the dogs do too. And when you stop, the dogs continue to get you up at 5:30a. (at least they let me go to 6 or 6:30 now...)
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@Gąska said in Horrible place to work:
A medical helicopter landing in the middle of a highway, blocking all traffic. Or being stuck in a traffic jam with a thousand cars before you and a thousand cars behind you, and being told by a police officer to abandon the vehicle and leave the highway on foot.
If you find yourself in The Stand then getting to work on time will probably be way down on your list of concerns
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@Gąska Having trams that go to useful places? That sounds like a suspiciously continental European thing.
You already leave for work at the same time everyday, don't you?
Not really, it depends when I wake up ;)
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@bobjanova said in Horrible place to work:
@Gąska Having trams that go to useful places? That sounds like a suspiciously continental European thing.
The city of Wrocław wasn't enough of a clue?
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@Gąska Now I'm disappointed that for once and according to Google Maps, there doesn't seem to be a place with the same name as almost any random European place somewhere in the US.
Clearly the US need more Polish migrants to fill that gap. Go Gaska!
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@dkf said in Horrible place to work:
@Steve_The_Cynic said in Horrible place to work:
the cost by car was about £20 for petrol and maybe ten quid for parking
When you're considering commuting, you have to allow for the costs of car ownership that you usually ignore for one-off trips. In addition, you can get travel for a lot less if you're commuting; one-off trips (especially if tickets are purchased for immediate travel) are the most expensive option.
Fair point, although British trains are notorious (in Britain) for being substantially expensive for people using them regardless of how they are being used, and also for a ticketing system whose complexity is far beyond what you'd expect from a fusion of Byzantine, baroque and rococo all at once.
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@dkf said in Horrible place to work:
When you're considering commuting, you have to allow for the costs of car ownership that you usually ignore for one-off trips.
For a long time, I didn't even own a car, commuted exclusively by train and got a rental whenever I actually needed to drive somewhere. That was substantially cheaper than buying and maintaining a car.
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@remi said in Horrible place to work:
@Gąska Now I'm disappointed that for once and according to Google Maps, there doesn't seem to be a place with the same name as almost any random European place somewhere in the US.
Clearly the US need more Polish migrants to fill that gap. Go Gaska!
You are searching wrong:
No trains or any other public transport, though.
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@Kamil-Podlesak said in Horrible place to work:
@remi said in Horrible place to work:
@Gąska Now I'm disappointed that for once and according to Google Maps, there doesn't seem to be a place with the same name as almost any random European place somewhere in the US.
Clearly the US need more Polish migrants to fill that gap. Go Gaska!
You are searching wrong:
No trains or any other public transport, though.
But! Husker AG is right there, which is an alcohol manufacturer.
Granted, looks like they make ethanol for fuel.
