@blakeyrat said:@boomzilla said:FACT: You asked why anyone would oppose anonymous tracking.
I'm pretty sure I never asked that. That's certainly not what I requested citations of.
My statement was condensed a bit. Here is where that started.
@blakeyrat said:@ Lorne Kates said:That's why I oppose having a TV be anything but a receive only display (and I'm counting the tuner, be it internal or external). If it can transmit, it will. For it to transmit, it needs to be connected to [something]. And as soon as [something] is unavailable, it can't transmit, and will almost certainly not work-- by design. If a company sees profit in that data transmitting, it will quickly become non-optional to not transmit, either by designing the device not to work if it cannot (no offline mode), or a law will be passed.
And there are real life, every day examples of all of those that exist right now. You can't go a month on a tech forum without coming across one of them.
Then you'll have no trouble at all proving a cite to back-up your bullshit!
His "bullshit" was his reason for opposing anonymous tracking.
@blakeyrat said:The funny thing is, I don't even really care what people think as long as they've actually thought about the issue and formed their own opinion based on actual evidence. The reason Lorne can't convince me is that he hasn't yet convinced himself, and that's what I'm trying to rectify.
@intertravel said:Fact: Blakey is not the only person struggling to see why you would think the analogy is related in any way.
OK...here is what I took away from his argument:
Anonymous tracking begins.
Either it's optional (e.g., opt out) or mandatory to begin with.
Eventually, it's likely to be mandatory, if only because of assumptions made by hardware / software, whether intentional or not.
HDCP evolution is a similar example where the supposedly straightforward flow of information, combined with seemingly simple or easy to implement extra stuff causes problems.
So, anonymous tracking (in addition to any privacy-like concerns) could lead down this path, too. I guess you think this doesn't matter, because it's the fault of stupid hardware or software vendors, or whatever, and it's OK for you not to care, but it still causes people money and aggravation when stuff like this happens, and that seems like a legitimate con against this sort of thing. The pros may still outweigh the cons, but that's different than screaming that the cons are illegitimate.