VR fight mrrrrow hissssss
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Magic Leap is a Tragic Heap
The title of this review was carefully chosen, not glibly. I want what is best for VR and all other technologies on the Reality–Virtuality Continuum, Magic Leap included. Unfortunately, their cur…
Founder of Oculus says the Magic Leap is bad. Turns out he sells a product that competes with it. Shocker.
He also says:
Unfortunately, their current offering is a tragedy in the classical sense, even more so when you consider how their massive funding and carefully crafted hype sucked all the air out of the room in the AR space.
Dude, your company's owned by fucking Facebook. Does... does he think he's still working in a garage? (Which the maker of the Magic Leap actually did, by the by, for many years before having something he could demo to angel investors.)
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@blakeyrat (He does correctly point out that their device is no better than the Hololens that came out like 2 years ago, and Hololens is superior by a lot of measures.)
But most of the article sounds like sour grapes.
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@blakeyrat This is also interesting:
This is unfortunate for obvious reasons – I know over a hundred people with an ML1, and almost none of them are AR developers. Most are tech executives, “influencers”, or early adopters who work in the industry but have no plans to actually build AR apps. This was a big problem in the early VR industry, and that was with many tens of thousands of developers among hundreds of thousands of development kits sold! Multiplying the problem by a couple orders of magnitude is going to be rough for ML.
"enthusiasts" buy new VR gear in such high numbers that it's hard to get developer kits in the hands of actual developers. That's not just true of Magic Leap, but the same applies to all other VR sets, including his own.
Makes me wonder if they should just give the dev kits away to people who have successfully published a VR app before instead of doing a sales process.
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@blakeyrat And the punchline, it turns out the CEO of Magic Leap is insane and apparently lives in a fantasy world:
(Tweets; read bottom-to-top.)
What.
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Magic Leap is the one the guy who wrote Snow Crash was promoting, right?
I know nothing about it at this point, but I was hoping it would go somewhere...
Honestly, the only ones going for a legitimate platform approach to VR and AR is Microsoft, and everyone discounts their attempts. All these others think everything needs to be a phone still, and that everyone wants to be constantly switching between 'apps' which are YOUR ENTIRE REALITY while wearing the things.
Applications in a system like that need to be both full immersive launchable things like that and simple components that can be added to your VR or AR base context, or you have no possibility of actual usability or productivity. Seriously, can you imagine the Oculus version of Microsoft Office? You'd have to launch the immersive Word app, then switch to an immersive Excel app, or just use the desktop versions on a single flat desktop window.
Microsoft already solved this stuff.
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@Magus said in VR fight mrrrrow hissssss:
Magic Leap is the one the guy who wrote Snow Crash was promoting, right?
I have no idea.
@Magus said in VR fight mrrrrow hissssss:
Honestly, the only ones going for a legitimate platform approach to VR and AR is Microsoft, and everyone discounts their attempts.
Oculus CEO guy seems to give them a lot of credit in this article. Not necessarily for being better than Magic Leap, but at least for being 3 years earlier with the same thing.
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@blakeyrat But even Microsoft's VR stuff is better than Oculus purely based on the software.
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@Magus Maybe but I don't think Oculus has any interest in doing anything other than games, right? They're playing in different ballparks.
I still have no clue why Facebook wanted Oculus in the first place.
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@blakeyrat said in VR fight mrrrrow hissssss:
@blakeyrat (He does correctly point out that their device is no better than the Hololens that came out like 2 years ago, and Hololens is superior by a lot of measures.)
But most of the article sounds like sour grapes.
'Sour grapes' refers not to saltiness, but to rationalization.
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@Magus said in VR fight mrrrrow hissssss:
@blakeyrat But even Microsoft's VR stuff is better than Oculus purely based on the software.
If the rumored next version improves on the FOV that'd be something.
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@Rhywden Of? The VR stuff has the same FOV as-
Oh, you're talking about the Hololens. Yes, that would be nice. If they make a consumer model, that would be even better.
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@blakeyrat said in VR fight mrrrrow hissssss:
Maybe but I don't think Oculus has any interest in doing anything other than games, right? They're playing in different ballparks.
I dunno, Facebook is apparently pouring tons of money in developing AR.
I still have no clue why Facebook wanted Oculus in the first place.
Me neither. I still have to find anybody who can give me a straight answer to that, other than a nebulous "$somebody thinks it's the future".
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@cvi I think they want full immersion social media. Which will kill people.
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@Magus Ok - fair enough, maybe that was a stupid question.
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I'll just wait for the Nintendo VR myself, I'm sure it will be much better than either of those
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@anonymous234 Why wait? They came out with it 2 decades ago!
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The Virtual Boy is Nintendo's second lowest-selling platform after the 64DD.
Poor 64DD, he never had a chance
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Interesting article. He has some good points, but when he starts going on about "monopolizing investors"... yup, sounds like sour grapes.
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@anonymous234 said in VR fight mrrrrow hissssss:
The Virtual Boy is Nintendo's second lowest-selling platform after the 64DD.
Poor 64DD, he never had a chance
.Huh. TIL. That one's so obscure I never even heard of it before today. :P
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@masonwheeler I was hoping it was some kind of bra-fitting accessory.
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@pie_flavor said in VR fight mrrrrow hissssss:
'Sour grapes' refers not to saltiness
Of course not. Why would you think sour grapes would taste salty?
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Didn't want to pay the thread tax, have a necro!
Status: TIL Really Bad Things Happen if the application window showing the screen in VR is between two monitors.
I was trying to do some Beat Saber except for some reason one eye was oddly distorted and delayed. Was getting very pissed off until I saw that the window was split in half and I realized what was happening.
Apparently having the graphics split into two contexts like that causes issues, who knew?
