Discourse vs. Community Server
-
Yes, someone else pointed that out, but you apparently just have to magically psychically know that because the autodiscovery doesn't work.
Who is "we" BTW? Are you the same Sam who posts on the Discourse meta bug tracking forum thingy?
-
Or separating people's posts with some kind of visual indication, so the entire page isn't just a single column of undifferentiated text blobbed-in with the header and footer
I kind of agree with this, for some reason the powers that be here specified some override colors that made the bar between posts, which is already pretty dim, even dimmer than usual:Left is default Discourse, right is this site. @apapadimoulis I recommend changing that back to the default -- or even making it darker if that's what people prefer coming from Ye Olde Community Server.
the preview window doesn't scroll with the typing window
This is one of @sam's pet features, we actually had a reference implementation that someone contributed, turns out it is hellishly complex:https://meta.discourse.org/t/syncing-the-editor-viewport-scroll/13249
We removed it for now, but my preferred "let's try something simple to sync the editor and preview viewports first" was vetoed by @sam in favor of said hellish complexity for something perfect, so you can talk to him about that..
because of the endless scrolling you can't search a topic (at least through Ctrl+F)
The search icon at upper right does work for searching inside topics (assuming they are more than 10 posts in length). We've considered capturing the browser CTRL+F and redirecting to that search.I grab the scrollbar handle and drag it to the top of the page
Try clicking the title of the topic, that will take you to top. Your home key will also work.
-
We removed it for now, but my preferred "let's try something simple to sync the editor and preview viewports first" was vetoed by @sam in favor of said hellish complexity for something perfect, so you can talk to him about that..
OK, it makes sense that the font sizes vary in the right pane but not on the left so keeping them 1:1 could be wrong.
What if each linebreak in the preview pane had some kind of zero-width element with a unique ID, so you could scroll #line-101 into view and you know that #line-101 has a direct mapping to line 101 of the input text? (This would only affect the preview not the actual post.)
Filed Under: [Not an elegant solution but a practical one.](#tag), [It should also work if the user changes their font size, the anchors will flow with the text wherever they need to be.](#tag)
-
We removed it for now, but my preferred "let's try something simple to sync the editor and preview viewports first" was vetoed by @sam in favor of said hellish complexity for something perfect, so you can talk to him about that..
Well right now the thing's useless unless you're monosyllabic.
Oh look, one small quote and one sentence, and it's already completely out-of-sync.
The search icon at upper right does work for searching inside topics (assuming they are more than 10 posts in length). We've considered capturing the browser CTRL+F and redirecting to that search.
That's not the only stock browser feature you've broken. How do you propose repairing the browser's scrollbar, which is made utterly useless by the endless scrolling concept?
Try clicking the title of the topic, that will take you to top. Your home key will also work.
The Home key will not work in most circumstances. AFAICT, the Home key only works if you are in a topic short enough that the browser loads all posts simultaneously. Try it.
Go to a relatively long topic like this one: http://what.thedailywtf.com/t/discourse-vs-community-server/249/52 -- if it's previously read, you'll auto-scroll to post 53 or so. Now hit Home. You end up at post 37. (Obviously those specific numbers may vary, the point is, for topics longer than about 15 posts or so I've not once had the Home key work correctly.) EDIT: tested with Google Chrome 34.
Strangely, the End key seems to work correctly, at least from my testing. But all the threads currently on here are "read" for me, so they start out near the bottom.
-
Strangely, the End key seems to work correctly, at least from my testing.
Yeah this is a regression sigh the home key is not functioning properly.
You can press ? to get a list of experimental keyboard shortcuts.
-
You can press ? to get a list of experimental keyboard shortcuts.
I don't want experimental anything, I just want normal plain jane working pagination like we've had for decades, instead of this ridiculous breakage of everything.
-
You can press ? to get a list of experimental keyboard shortcuts.
Really useful and concise documentation? Well, we have to hide that behind a keystroke no one will ever think to try on a website (and put scary "Experimental" warning signs on it).
-
Oh wow, it manages to render even worse than Community Server here at the office:
-
@joe_edwards said:
a keystroke no one will ever think to try on a website
Really? Try pressing ? on Twitter or GMail or GitHub for example. It's pretty standard these days actually.
-
OK, but what button did you hit to do the indentations @Zecc?
I used a keyboard shorcut: Shift + <
-
The search icon at upper right does work for searching inside topics (assuming they are more than 10 posts in length). We've considered capturing the browser CTRL+F and redirecting to that search.
I do not agree that the current search is an adequate replacement for Ctrl+F (for me). If I ctrl+F I want to do what my browser does by default: highlight all the matches on the page and quikly cycle through them (by pressing Ctrl+F repeatedly). Maybe give a total count of found matches.
The current search does a side-wide search and gives a list of topics, which is something very different.
As such capturing Ctrl+F would be counterproductive I think. Breaking the functionality is probably preferred to replacing the functionality with something different.
-
The behavior depends on the length of the topic. Try search on a large topic (50+ replies). Then try it on a small topic (5 replies).
Search behavior also depends somewhat on the context of where you're searching, e.g. if you search from your user page it will prioritize matches of your posts, if you search from a category page it prioritizes matches within that particular category, and so forth.
-
I kind of agree with this, for some reason the powers that be here specified some override colors that made the bar between posts, which is already pretty dim, even dimmer than usual:
I only modified the top header with a lighter version of TDWTF blue as an experiment. I haven't touched any other colours, far as I can remember.
-
We've considered capturing the browser CTRL+F and redirecting to that search.
Please don't capture standard keys. Twitter used to capture F5 and it just felt arrogant in that WE KNOW BETTER THAN YOU, USERS way.
-
-
Really? Try pressing ? on Twitter or GMail or GitHub for example. It's pretty standard these days actually.
I've never heard of this. It's not advertised anywhere.
-
codinghorror said:
Really? Try pressing ? on Twitter or GMail or GitHub for example. It's pretty standard these days actually.I've never heard of this. It's not advertised anywhere.
First time I've heard of this, too.
-
I've never heard of this. It's not advertised anywhere.
On Gmail it's clearly listed at the bottom left of the help screen, which can be reached by pressing Shift + /*...
* On most keyboards.
-
but...
-
As do we: http://what.thedailywtf.com/latest.rss
I am already impressed with this software and you're impressing me some more.
-
Really? Try pressing ? on Twitter or GMail or GitHub for example. It's pretty standard these days actually.
This is the guy who thinks RSS is too geeky, but knowing keyboard shortcuts from GitHub apparently is not. And for the record, "standard" or not, if you don't put anywhere on the page any HINT that it works, then of course people aren't going to know about it. Users aren't telepathic.
-
That's a new one for me as well. I didn't even know you could do keyboard shortcuts on a web page, and I used to be an HTML5 web developer until last year.
-
That's a new one for me as well. I didn't even know you could do keyboard shortcuts on a web page, and I used to be an HTML5 web developer until last year.
Well... That has been possible for a very, very long time, it was all the rage when DHTML was hip and new (1998)
-
That's a new one for me as well. I didn't even know you could do keyboard shortcuts on a web page, and I used to be an HTML5 web developer until last year.
I knew Gmail had them, but I don't use them because they're terrible. As in: from the message list the delete key doesn't delete messages, up-and-down will move this cursor thing next to the messages but it won't select a message so you can't just hold shift and do down-down-down-down to select messages and delete them.
I've built AJAX webmail systems before. DELETE always deletes messages, up-and-down highlight the messages and you can hold shift to select multiples, etc.
-
I've built AJAX webmail systems before. DELETE always deletes messages, up-and-down highlight the messages and you can hold shift to select multiples, etc.
How can I get a Morbsmail account?
Filed Under: [Step 1: Use an XSS attack to get Morbs' email address from his profile page…](#tag)
-
I knew Gmail had them, but I don't use them because they're terrible.
Occasionally when reading a long email I hit a Left / Right instead of an Up / Down and it jumps back up to the folder menu (or whatever that is). That sucks.
-
I didn't seem to be migrated across so I recreated myself over here.
I think my old username might have been to long for discourse though...
-
@RTapeLoadingErr said:
I think my old username might have been to long for discourse though...
Supposedly, the limit has been raised from 15 to 20 characters, but that doesn't seem to be working.
-
Supposedly, the limit has been raised from 15 to 20 characters, but that doesn't seem to be working.
It sounds like it hasn't taken effect yet. Although I'd just wait for that expansion to 963 characters.
-
It sounds like it hasn't taken effect yet.
Ah, right you are, although I have no idea what "next run" means.
-
Ah, right you are, although I have no idea what "next run" means.
Neither do I. Maybe it's something they do inside their one box?
-
Maybe it's something they do inside their one box?
If they've got the runs inside their box, I'm never going anywhere near that box.
-
If they've got the runs inside their box, I'm never going anywhere near that box.
Hmmmm... maybe the "run" is a polite-company term for the menstrual cycle? So we'll have to wait about 4 weeks, max.
-
maybe the "run" is a polite-company term for the menstrual cycle?
I've never heard that term for it, but "the curse" would certainly be fitting for Discourse. And it does seem to produce PMS-like symptoms in its users. ETA: Not to mention that it's a bloody mess.
Filed under: PMS is sexist
-
Hmmmm... maybe the "run" is a polite-company term for the menstrual cycle? So we'll have to wait about 4 weeks, max.
Unless they're on Depo, then it could be a couple of months..
-
Unless they're on Depo, then it could be a couple of months..
Hell, if they've got Implanon, it could be a couple years.
-
Hell, if they've got Implanon, it could be a couple years.
It's a damn shame we had to invent that after the 19th Amendment. Now how do we make it compulsory?
-
It's a damn shame we had to invent that <i>after</i> the 19th Amendment. Now how do we make it compulsory?
Just wait for our new Chinese overlords to do it. They already have experience with mandatory sterilization.
-
Well, I only need it extending to 18 characters. No-one needs a user name longer than that.
-
Just wait for our new Chinese overlords to do it. They already have experience with mandatory sterilization.
I don't want sterilization, just the "no PMS" thing.
-
I don't want sterilization, just the "no PMS" thing.
I'm not sure if you can get one without the (at least temporary) other, but I was mostly thinking about the "compulsory" part.
-
I'm not sure if you can get one without the (at least temporary) other, but I was mostly thinking about the "compulsory" part.
Ah, the Chinese probably got away with passing that law because they have so many more men than women, due to their one child law.
-
If they sterilize the females, there's no need to sterilize the men, and no need for contraceptives! It's a win-win.
-
Ah, the Chinese probably got away with passing that law because they have so many more men than women, due to their one child law.
I'm not sure if it only applies to women, though it wouldn't surprise me. However, it probably doesn't make much difference, because the people have no effective way to object to what their government does.
-
Or separating people's posts with some kind of visual indication, so the entire page isn't just a single column of undifferentiated text blobbed-in with the header and footer.
I've attempted to correct this, and it appears to work on Firefox (32.0a) and Chrome (34.0) for me:
Any better for others?
-
-
Would you try flushing the cache - I had problems with that when I first tried Chrome after testing in FF.
-
Chrome 35 here, didn't seem to change anything.
I don't see any difference on Chrome 34. CSS caching?
-
Would you try flushing the cache - I had problems with that when I first tried Chrome after testing in FF.
Tried that, also tried incognito mode. Also tried FF Australopithecus, same thing.
Screen-cappy:
-
Bollox. :(