Keypeen
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What the....
How do you get the other two characters per key?!
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Alt Gr and Alt GrShift - at least that's how it works in a certain other QWERTZ land.
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Which of those keys is Alt Gr ?
Unless it's the Super key?
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Oh, and
`
and^
are dead keys. Have fun!Which of those keys is Alt Gr
Right Alt. Super is Windows key, but we can't say that name on Linux.
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Level 3.
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He typo'd
104
. Probably <abbr title="can't be arsed to find the thread where he keeps getting cut, copy and paste mixed up">forgot where the 0 and 1 keys were</abbr>.Maybe he just forgot to turn numlock on while using the number pad?
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What amuses me about keyboard layouts is that both a US and a UK QWERTY keyboard have the pound sign over the 3.
I assume this is either someone's idea of a joke, or someone designing one keyboard based on a description of the other that didn't include a picture. "Pound sign over the 3? Good a place for it as any. What do you mean that isn't a pound sign?" I always wonder which.
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I assume this is either someone's idea of a joke, or someone designing one keyboard based on a description of the other that didn't include a picture. "Pound sign over the 3? Good a place for it as any. What do you mean that isn't a pound sign?" I always wonder which.
I've been assuming for years that this was all confusion caused by people communicating just by phone. That the two sides would have interpreted “pound sign” to mean something different wouldn't have occurred to anyone on either side and so nobody checked it until it was far too late; the mistake had been baked in.
£define POUND_CONFUSION :facepalm:
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Any idea which one came first? My thinking is the UK version, because the dollar is on top of four, so it's logical to have the other currency symbol next to it (and if you're British you'd put pound before dollar most likely). Not that it's illogical to have the hash there since I think US keyboards rarely have a £ key, but if the US layout came first it would be a coincidence that the symbol with the same name as £ is also in the most logical place for the UK's currency symbol.
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The US layout probably
camewas standardisedwas more or less largely agreed upon first, though I don't know for sure.Aside: While researching, I found this sentence on Wikipedia:
QWERTY is designed for English, a language without any diacritical marks.
That's so naïve of them. Is it also a bit cliché?
It's like that claim that
sugar
is the only word starting withsu
that is pronouncedshu
Are they sure?
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Those are imported words which happen to have non-English characters. But yes, at some point if we borrow enough words containing them... But most people I know tend to write them (and especially type them, if they're using a keyboard with no convenient way of getting diacritics) without the diacritics, and such spellings as cliche and naive are generally accepted (and in both those cases recognised by spell check) as correct.
Guess it's just a weird coincidence about the pound sign/logical place for currency symbol. Suck it, Occam.
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Those are imported words which happen to have non-English characters.
True, þey are loanwords. But as far as I'm concerned, if a word is recognised by þe OED and defined wiþ diacritics, it's an English word ;)Older forms of English may have had more diacritics, but, as wiþ Þ, þey fell out of favour when þe printing press came along.
Y'know, I'm not sure about bringing þorn back; it just doesn't look right. And
þorn
looks like the bastard lovechild ofborn
andporn
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QWERTY is designed for English, a language without any diacritical marks.
That prompted me to post this abomination as well:
We don't need no Q, W, Y or X. We have digraphs! And a
ž
, TWICE!
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I see a Z but no Y …
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I missed due to layout switching... then I fixed it...
This is after just hitting edit, did not change the text in the editor!
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Oh, look, I added <del> tags, and NOW it saved it!
Edit: And removing tags made it work... WTF Discourse!
I wanted to screenshot edit history but this is all I have:
But... that's my first edit only! Where... WHAT?
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Y'know, I'm not sure about bringing þorn back; it just doesn't look right. And þorn looks like the bastard lovechild of born and porn
I read it as porn for a moment. Probably says all sorts of unflattering things about modern society in general and me in particular that I saw that one rather than born, but there we go.
Something else I wonder about is whether thou falling out of use entirely was related to the disappearance of þ, or if the fact that þou would have been rendered identical to a word that happened to be a politer way of saying the same thing whenever y was substituted for þ is a huge coincidence.
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I read it as porn for a moment
Exactly
@CarrieVS said:Probably says all sorts of unflattering things about modern society in general and me in particular that I saw that one rather than born, but there we go.
Hey, it's no worse than what my recent run of avatars* has been saying about me
@CarrieVS said:Something else I wonder about is whether thou falling out of use entirely was related to the disappearance of þ, or if the fact that þou would have been rendered identical to a word that happened to be a politer way of saying the same thing whenever y was substituted for þ is a huge coincidence.
I think it just dropped out of favour as the language was modernised.
@Onyx said:But... that's my first edit only! Where... WHAT?
Ninja edit window ;)
Sort by name, then look from
9
onwards
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I assume this is either someone's idea of a joke, or someone designing one keyboard based on a description of the other that didn't include a picture. "Pound sign over the 3? Good a place for it as any. What do you mean that isn't a pound sign?" I always wonder which.
The # pound character was over the 3 clear back in typewriter days. If we needed a £ pound character we were taught to overstrike lowercase f and capital L. In those days, the shift of 2 was the " double-quote character and @ was over the 8.
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Ninja edit window
I'd say that, yes. BUT:
1st edit: Z into Y
2nd edit: Y (which didn't show up in the baked post, but did in editor) into <del>Y<del>
3rd edit: <del>Y<del> into YEdits shown in history: 1st
If I knew it's gonna be THIS broken I'd screenshot it every bot of the way.
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Huh.
Your follow-up edits were probably swallowed by a rebake then; I've had that happen before.
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Super is Windows key, but we can't say that name on Linux.
Man, the Indian scammers who call me get really confused when I tell them Windows+R doesn't do what they think it should.
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I felt a strange urge to post
<nobr>A Win+R is You!</nobr>So I did.
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Are they sure?
Shirley, I need to pronounce
sudo
as "shoodoo
"That's so naïve of them. Is it also a bit cliché?
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I keep a TI-85 on my desk.
The programmer's version of the accountant's 10-key.
Yeah, I sometimes turn to my TI-89 when I'm at home, vs having to wrestle with a PC-based CAS...
(OTOH: for simple calculations, firing up a Python interactive interpreter is as good as anything, I find)
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Continuing the discussion from Keyboard epeen:
To be continued...
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wiþ
Are you sure? I can't find any references, but it seems likely to me þ was only used for the th in the, but not the one in with.
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Are you sure? I can't find any references, but it seems likely to me þ was only used for the th in the, but not the one in with.
I dunno; it's not like anyone uses that letter anymore anyway
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It's still used in Icelandic...
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þ was also commonly written y, hence "ye old coffee shop".
As far as I know, "olde" is pure bollocks
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It's really for emoticons: :þ
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http://qdb.us/93971
Filed under: [bash.org classics](#bash)
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caps lock to F12 would be the least likely to be confused distance.
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þ was also commonly written y, hence "ye old coffee shop".
(Emphasis mine, for pedantry.)
It was the invention of the printing press which really did it in for þ. The first presses to arrive in England came from Germany, where þ isn't a letter, so English printers decided that y looked similar enough to be a viable replacement (th would've taken twice the effort you guise), and thus printed English lost a character...
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Why must you be right?
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Because it facilitates pedantry?
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"I'm disconnected" indicator light...
"That light confirms that it's off"
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I can't find any references, but it seems likely to me þ was only used for the th in the, but not the one in with.
It might be that þ was only used in the voiced case.
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It might be that þ was only used in the voiced case.
Icelandic uses ð for the voiced sound, so this seems plausible...
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Icelandic uses ð for the voiced sound, so this seems plausible...
[Þ] is pronounced as either a voiceless dental fricative [θ] or the voiced counterpart of it [ð]. However, in modern Icelandic it's pronounced as a laminal voiceless alveolar non-sibilant fricative [θ̠],[1][2] similar to th as in the English word thick, or a (usually apical) voiced alveolar non-sibilant fricative [ð̠],[1][2] similar to th as in the English word the. Modern Icelandic usage generally excludes the latter, which is instead represented with the letter eth ⟨Ð, ð⟩; however, [ð̠] may occur as an allophone of /θ̠/, and written ⟨þ⟩, when it appears in an unstressed pronoun or adverb after a voiced sound.[3]
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A Â Ä Å B D E Ê Ë G H K L M N O Ô Ö P R S T U Û X Z
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A Á B C D E F G H I J K L M N Ñ O P Q R S T U V W X Z
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A B C Ç D E È É F G H I Ì Í K L M N O Ò Ó P Q R S T U Ù Ú V W Y Ÿ Z
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A À Á Â Ä Å B C D E È É Ê Ë F G H I Ì Í Î Ï K L M N O Ò Ó Ô Ö R S T U Ù Ú Û V Z
Match the alphabets with the species!
- Dwarf
- Elf
- Goblin
- Human
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Nerd. On all of them.
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none of those are elvish!
i call shenanigans!
this is elvish
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correction:
v = (x6) / 6 + c
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correction:
v = (x6) / 6 + c
Is this New Math where you add the speed of light to indefinite integrals?
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It as good a constant as any.
In fact, you might agree it's the best of all constants.
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