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They should use imperial units. 967 bits = 1 kilobit.
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They should use proper names for proper units and call the silly ones HDD manufacturers use ketrobytes, metrobytes, getrobytes and tetrobytes.
we need to star an internet petition or something. or maybe a lawsuit suing for... i dunno loss of opportunity and wages as a result of deliberate, illegal misrepresentation of capacity.
we will sue for one teradollar.
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i thought of doing that meme, but i liked the subtle irony of a terra dollar.
which did i mean?
- 1 000 000 000 000 dollars?
- 1 099 511 627 776 dollars?
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You know what's funny?
My smartphone has 16.00 Gigabytes of internal storage.
The miniSD card inside it has 16 Getrobytes, i.e. 14.48 or so Gigabytes.
Both are labelled as "16GB".
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Hence why we should sue. if every techy did that we'd get some attention fast.
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I'd buy something with getrobytes in it.
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I could almost swear I used to have a stack of IDE hard drives from the early-mid 90's that were labelled 810 MB and showed as exactly 810 MB once formatted in Windows, meaning hard disk manufacturers changed their system at some point.
Same with flash drives. I had a 128 MB flash drive in high school that was exactly 128 MB. Now I have a 64 GB one that is only 58.4 GB.
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they changes about the time that gigabytes became a thing for consumers.
some clever little dickhead in marketing figured out that they could sell a cheaper gigabyte drive if they defined a gigabyte as 1 billion bytes (using the SI prefix) rather than the computer science prefix ($$2^30$$)
edit: aww... i can write in markdown but i can't use inline LaTEX. THIS IS A BUG!
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some clever little dickhead in marketing figured out that they could sell a cheaper gigabyte drive if they defined a gigabyte as 1 billion bytes (using the SI prefix) rather than the computer science prefix ($$2^30$$)
This is my assumption as well, in which case the whole giga-vs-gibi thing is retarded and disk manufacturers are slimy. You don't change a definition because one group is abusing it, you force them to use the same definition as everyone else.
I'm trying to imagine how the computer industry would deal with a chain of gas stations whose definition of gallon is 0.8 of everyone else's gallon. Instead of cracking down they'd call the real gallon a giblon and allow gallon to mean whatever the hell anyone wanted it to mean.
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Instead of cracking down they'd call the real gallon a giblon and allow gallon to mean whatever the hell anyone wanted it to mean.
i imagine that the entire engineering department screamed bloody murder at that dickhead until they were told by a VP that they would comply or be fired and their retirement benefits revoked, possibly also shot depending on what country they were in at the time.also, if i could find a HDD manufacturer that used 2^(10*x) units for theur HDDs i would buy them exclusively. How would one go about making that a real thing?
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also, if i could find a HDD manufacturer that used 2^(10*x) units for theur HDDs i would buy them exclusively. How would one go about making that a real thing?
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I suppose you could start your own company and sell rebranded drives with the correct size label. Or do that with SSDs since there's really only one or two SSD manufacturers and the eleventy billion different brands are all re-labels of the same thing.
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I'm trying to imagine how the computer industry would deal with a chain of gas stations whose definition of gallon is 0.8 of everyone else's gallon.
This you mean? I can see how that might work...
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Aren't they called litres?
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i thought of doing that meme, but i liked the subtle irony of a terra dollar.
OneWorldCurrency?
Filed Under: unless you just meant teradollar, which isn't as fearsome as the triceradollar
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That's almost, but not quite, a whoosh.
Petrol (gas) is sold here by the litre. Which is a stupid measure.
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Petrol (gas) is sold here by the litre. Which is a stupid measure.
I buy soda by the liter. Typically 2 at a time.
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I wonder why we Americans measure cars in liters instead of gallons. Though sometimes we use cubic inches.
From now on, my truck no longer has a 6.6L V8. It has a 1.74354 gallon V8.
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We're back to the whole imperial vs metric thing.
Metric for smaller quantities or any measure where actual precision is mildly relevant (i.e. volumes under a litre or two), it's worth using metric.
But when you're talking about filling up a tank, that makes less sense to use metric, IMO because you're putting in sufficient quantity that even rounding to 10ml increments is largely irrelevant.
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We're back to the whole imperial vs metric thing.
I wasn't.
Metric for smaller quantities or any measure where actual precision is mildly relevant (i.e. volumes under a litre or two), it's worth using metric.
Not really. Ounces, cups, pints and quarts work just fine for most things that normal people do in daily life. If you're trying to make FOOF, then you'll want the metric versions.
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i am familliar with <sup>, but i'm used to doing my math stuff in inline LaTEX.
jetpack for wordpress has spoiled me i guess.
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Quick, tell Jeff. I'm sure he'll love the idea - I mean, what's one more markup option, right?
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Can we get some RTF control code support while we're at it?
Filed under: bad idea thread, arrows, etc
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I don't see why not, it's no less batshit insane than the current choices.
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edit: PERFECT that's the CTRL character! (or an control character anyway)
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i imagine that the entire engineering department screamed bloody murder at that dickhead until they were told by a VP that they would comply or be fired and their retirement benefits revoked,
They didn't want to give up their company perk of 10 free giblons of gas a week.
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Do they? When Hard Disks are measured using powers of 10 and memory is measured using powers of 2?
Using the same prefix for different multiplicative effects is unscientific.
Yes. You just proved my point by admitting that you know that "megabyte" when talking about hard drives, means "millions of bytes". As I said--it's a little awkward that one word has two meanings, but everyone knows what those two meanings are and when each one applies.
Given that, only anal-retentives (and Germans, but I repeat myself) need the second prefix.
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My smartphone has 16.00 Gigabytes of internal storage.The miniSD card inside it has 16 Getrobytes, i.e. 14.48 or so Gigabytes.Both are labelled as "16GB".
And yet you know what they both mean.
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I'd buy something with getrobytes in it.
And then you'd getrobytes right back out of it when it died.
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Given that, only anal-retentives (and Germans, but I repeat myself) need the second prefix.
have you tried explaining to an octogenarian why when they bought a 500GB hard drive but their computer says it's only 475*GB. it's not easy.
*: i'm guessing here.that's probably not the exact number
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have you tried explaining to an octogenarian why when they bought a 500GB hard drive but their computer says it's only 475*GB. it's not easy.
Have you? I'm going to guess that approximately no octogenerians know or care the difference.
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I have, they do.
i've had to do it to about three dozen different individuals over the last several years. all of them very concerned that the person they bought the computer from was trying to (spy on|rob) them because of the missing hard drive capacity.
the ones that took the right branch on that conditional were more correct, which actually made it harder to explain.
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If you're trying to make FOOF
Under no circumstances would I do that, nor would I willingly be within 1km (±1 furlong) of anyone else doing that.
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Under no circumstances would I do that, nor would I willingly be within 1km (±1 furlong) of anyone else doing that.
Where's your sense of adventure?
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I'm not sure. Probably over playing Zork.
[code]
It is dark, you cannot see. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.
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It is dark, you cannot see.
No, it's not.
You are in a well-lit office. In front of you, you see two mediocre Dell monitors. Through a distant window, you see a bright, warm, mostly-sunny day.
>go outside
You cannot do that yet.
>request vacation tomorrow
Vacation approved.
>rejoice
I don't know how to do that.
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Through a distant window, you see a bright, warm, mostly-sunny day.
No I don't. There are no windows in my soulless office.
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only anal-retentives (and Germans, but I repeat myself)
Badge Suggestion: Honorary German.
I nominate myself for it.
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I'd buy something with getrobytes in it.
I think the new Gatorade has them. But the 600ml bottle actually only contains 540ml of drink.
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Badge Suggestion: Honorary German.
I nominate myself for it.
There is honor in beeing a German?
Holy Belgium on a stick!
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Holy Belgium on a stick!
Ah yes, German military policy in the first half of the 20th century.
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Ah yes, German military policy in the first half of the 20th century.
Are you really referring to those events you guys lost?
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But when you're talking about filling up a tank, that makes less sense to use metric, IMO because you're putting in sufficient quantity that even rounding to 10ml increments is largely irrelevant.
At the prices we non-septics have to pay, any bastard starts rounding up the amount I put in my tank is gonna find an incendiary device at his petrol station real fast. It's getting to the point (and for petrol, rather than diesel, has got to the point) where the cost of 1ml of fuel is no longer under the rounding error.
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Time to spill the beans. Who made this steaming pile of WTF?
Let's just say that we already have a forum dedicated to hating them.
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I prefer Solar System objects' names:
KallistoBytes (KaB)
MarsBytes (MaB)
GanymedeBytes (GaB)
TitanBytes (TiB)
PlutoBytes (PluB)
EarthBytes (EaB)
Z.... well let's hope nobody needs anything above EaB