Enterprise scale application on a consumer account? Genius!
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Hey guys, screw spending money on an Enterprise account, let's just do our super critical stuff on a personal account. SLAs are for pansies!
Medium Dev jumping on google hate bandwagon, and the only comments that really support the OP are either a) trying to sell him shit, or b) have no idea how it works
What's even funnier is the dev gets called for that
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It doesn't matter what "type" of account it is, Google is 100% in the wrong here, and it's hard for me to understand why anybody would think otherwise.
Of course if you put your business on Google services, WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU EXPECT TO HAPPEN? You haven't read other people having "Google turned all out shit off" stories like a million times before? Dumbshits.
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@blakeyrat said in Enterprise scale application on a consumer account? Genius!:
It doesn't matter what "type" of account it is, Google is 100% in the wrong here, and it's hard for me to understand why anybody would think otherwise.
Of course if you put your business on Google services, WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU EXPECT TO HAPPEN? You haven't read other people having "Google turned all out shit off" stories like a million times before? Dumbshits.
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@blakeyrat Of course Google's in the wrong with their contact stuff, but shutting it down quickly is not that uncommon, especially with consumer level cloud accounts. "Oh you're account is running was hacked and now mining bitcoins? Shutting that down" is a phrase said at AWS and Azure.
However, I use GCP at my company, and we've had no issues like that when it comes to getting support. It has the same SLA as AWS, and i've gotten a person every time.
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All of Google Cloud is "enterprise accounts" though. It's not for "consumers". I mean it is for consumers, but those consumers are mainly enterprises.
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uhhh.... he's using this to monitor wind turbines and solar plants for an electrical grid?
GCP (and all other Google products) exclude using them for "high risk activities"
“High Risk Activities” means uses such as the operation of nuclear facilities, air traffic control, or life support systems, where the use or failure of the Services could lead to death, personal injury, or environmental damage.
I dunno about that.
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Also:
We would have lost everything — years of work — millions of dollars in lost revenue.
WTF are you shitting about? Do you mean to tell me that the production server and production databases are the only working copies of the system & data you have?!?
If your business is as important as you think it is, and you don't have a fallback plan for a system that MUST be on 24/7, then you are a fucking disaster waiting to happen.
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@thebread The whole thing makes me happier at using AWS, if just for their better customer service.
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I don't know, I've never had an issue like that with AWS. I've also tried Azure, and partly through my fault of using a weak password, and partly due to Azure's setup where there was no firewall by default, and no key required to log in, my test box got hacked and was sending out a mass amount of spam email.
Azure didn't even blink an eye and happily billed me $300 for the bandwidth charges.
Never used GC, and probably never will.
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@thebread said in Enterprise scale application on a consumer account? Genius!:
What's even funnier is the dev gets called for that
By a "Customer Engineer, Google Cloud".
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FTFA:
I fill in the form with the details and thankfully within 20 minutes all the services started coming alive. The first time this happened, ....
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Customer Engineer from Google says
"I highly recommend establishing an enterprise relationship with Google Cloud"or ?
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@stillwater
definitely
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For all the folks that are going "oh you should not host in all in one place yadda yadda", what is actually done in practice to prevent scenarios like this? All the resources are duplicated in two cloud vendors? I'm lost.
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@stillwater said in Enterprise scale application on a consumer account? Genius!:
All the resources are duplicated in two cloud vendors?
Essentially yes. The tricky bit is ensuring that things fail over correctly, but otherwise it's simple enough as long as you're just using basic services. The more advanced the services you use (i.e., the higher up the stack you let the vendor control) the easier it is to get started, and the more you get hosed when they unexpectedly pull the plug on you.
Yes, this means that resilience requires buying more than the minimum and sometimes doing a lot of work too. It was always thus…
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@dkf said in Enterprise scale application on a consumer account? Genius!:
@stillwater said in Enterprise scale application on a consumer account? Genius!:
All the resources are duplicated in two cloud vendors?
Essentially yes. The tricky bit is ensuring that things fail over correctly, but otherwise it's simple enough as long as you're just using basic services. The more advanced the services you use (i.e., the higher up the stack you let the vendor control) the easier it is to get started, and the more you get hosed when they unexpectedly pull the plug on you.
Yes, this means that resilience requires buying more than the minimum and sometimes doing a lot of work too. It was always thus…
God, it's almost like doing it your fucking self is easier.
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@weng said in Enterprise scale application on a consumer account? Genius!:
God,
it's almost like doing ityourfucking yourself is easier.
The FTFY on this is a stretch but whatever.
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@lorne-kates With regards to 'High Risk Activities" doesn't Apple have that in their ToS that apps can't be used for 911 services or other 'high risk' stuff too?