Hey Google Maps, fuck you too
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You want to give labels to places, so you can see "Work" instead of "Shitty street, 123, 123456, Shittyville"? You need to enable search history on all products then! It's a completely unrelated thing, but we say so.
(the good news is, you can enable it, add the labels, and then disable it)
On an entirely unrelated topic, TIL Bing Maps is not available on Android at all. They have no app, and the website silently redirects to the main page. Nice job competing there, Microsoft.
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@anonymous234 Looks like it's an account setting instead of an app setting, so your saved locations can be accessed anywhere.
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@anonymous234 said in Hey Google Maps, fuck you too:
Nice job competing there, Microsoft.
Microsoft stopped competing a long time ago.
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@anonymous234 said in Hey Google Maps, fuck you too:
You need to enable search history on all products then! It's a completely unrelated thing, but we say so.
That's pretty much how all Android permissions are, and how all Google account permissions are, and how all YouTube permissions are, etc. - the categories make no sense and are way too encompassing. I'm convinced Google doesn't understand how permissions work and instead of adding new permissions they just shove new functionality into existing permissions.
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@lb_ said in Hey Google Maps, fuck you too:
I'm convinced Google doesn't understand how permissions work
I'm convinced you're giving them too little credit. It's in their interests to make the permissions categories as broad as possible.
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I found this a little while ago when I moved. I wanted to update the "Home" marker and had to turn on the tracking in order to change it.
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@anonymous234 said in Hey Google Maps, fuck you too:
On an entirely unrelated topic, TIL Bing Maps is not available on Android at all. They have no app, and the website silently redirects to the main page. Nice job competing there, Microsoft.
Bing Maps uses Here Maps for a good chunk of its map data, so you want the (bizzarely named) HERE WeGo app which will give you much of the same data.
Actually not too bad of an app, I used to use it for GPS in the car before Google Maps had offline maps (and they changed the name).
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@douglasac Even actual Microsoft phones used the HERE map app by default; MS must have some kind of deal with them.
The app was fine, except it had that annoying habit most Android apps have of annoying you about stuff RIGHT after you opened the app to complete some task. "No I don't want to review my permissions now, I opened the app to get directions, fucking get out of my way." But almost all Android apps do that, fucking irritating. I never had that problem on my Windows Phone.
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@blakeyrat Part of the Nokia deal I imagine, Nokia used to own Here, Microsoft bought Nokia, but Here got sold off a couple of years back (now it's owned by Audi and Mercedes Benz if I'm not mistaken).
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@anonymous234 said in Hey Google Maps, fuck you too:
You need to enable search history on all products then!
GitHub - M66B/XPrivacyLua: Really simple to use privacy manager for Android 6.0 Marshmallow and later
Really simple to use privacy manager for Android 6.0 Marshmallow and later - M66B/XPrivacyLua
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@blakeyrat said in Hey Google Maps, fuck you too:
The app was fine, except it had that annoying habit most Android apps have of annoying you about stuff RIGHT after you opened the app to complete some task. "No I don't want to review my permissions now, I opened the app to get directions, fucking get out of my way." But almost all Android apps do that, fucking irritating.
Weird, I don't think I ever saw that, it usually asks me as a part of an update.
What Maps does do though, is constantly reminding me I can use voice commands and that I can search for "gas stations" or similar terms. Yes, I know, you've been installed for a year and you told me thousands of times already, if you think I'm that stupid what you should display is:
For the love of everything holy, DON'T GET BEHIND THE WHEEL! Also, please remember to breathe.
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@onyx Well the example was an ass-pull, my point is on Android I frequently open an app to do something and instead of being able to do something right away, the app has like 57 stupid dialog boxes telling me something I don't give a shit about. (I mean, maybe I would if I had time to read them, but no right now I'm trying to take a photo so I just hit the close box as quickly as possible and literally never read them.)
It's a real backslide on usability. I don't know if iOS is as bad, but my Windows Phone virtually never did that to me.
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@blakeyrat said in Hey Google Maps, fuck you too:
Well the example was an ass-pull, my point is on Android I frequently open an app to do something and instead of being able to do something right away, the app has like 57 stupid dialog boxes telling me something I don't give a shit about.
Fair enough, yeah, they do that a lot. I don't know the fuck they are thinking with that.
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@anonymous234 said in Hey Google Maps, fuck you too:
Bing Maps
It wouldn't be called that. Even on Windows Phone, it isn't.
@blakeyrat said in Hey Google Maps, fuck you too:
Even actual Microsoft phones used the HERE map app by default; MS must have some kind of deal with them.
They bought it, and then combined it into the default "Maps" app. The current maps app is quite good.
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@onyx said in Hey Google Maps, fuck you too:
I don't know the fuck they are thinking with that.
Do not question the Marketers. They know what is best for you!
Yeah,
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(I'm constantly forced to implement more in-your-face things like that because "we need the user to know we can do this!".)
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@blakeyrat said in Hey Google Maps, fuck you too:
@onyx Well the example was an ass-pull, my point is on Android I frequently open an app to do something and instead of being able to do something right away, the app has like 57 stupid dialog boxes telling me something I don't give a shit about. (I mean, maybe I would if I had time to read them, but no right now I'm trying to take a photo so I just hit the close box as quickly as possible and literally never read them.)
Well the alternative - and the previous solution Android used - was "either you grant all permissions an app requests in its manifest or you cannot install it". And they changed it to "ask the user about each permission on the fly when requested". Which is much much better in my opinion from a security & privacy perspective.
Whereas in Windows 10 you can go to Settings and revoke permissions but they are grouped by permission, not by app. And some permissions are automatically granted with no UI to revoke them. For example the Messenger app has access to my photos, but the screen to revoke that permission will only be added in the new feature upgrade.
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@marczellm The problem is if I'm "on the fly" I'm trying to accomplish a task, and that task is never "decide which additional features to give this app."
As usual, Google didn't fucking bother to think of UX at all.
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@blakeyrat well, how should it be asking for permissions? Verbally?
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@pie_flavor Ideally it never would. If it has to, do it when I'm not busy doing something else.
Which admittedly is hard on a phone because I only pick up and unlock my phone when I want to do something with it. Not like my PC which is running 24/7.
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@blakeyrat So it should carry out its tasks which require permissions, without ever asking for permissions. Or it should do things without you opening it.
Gotcha.
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@pie_flavor Oh look, another person who doesn't know the word "ideal".
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@blakeyrat said in Hey Google Maps, fuck you too:
@pie_flavor Oh look, another person who doesn't know the word "ideal".
Given that you are, for want of a better word, a sensible person, when you say 'ideal' I assume you mean 'if we had smart developers' instead of 'if we didn't have to follow basic logic'.
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@pie_flavor I'm talking about the ideal user experience. Ideally, the app just gets the fuck out of my way and I can do what I want with no annoyance or frustration.
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@blakeyrat The ideal experience is probably just looking at the phone and it opening the app for you, automatically entering the destination you want, and navigating you there. While blowing you. But these simply aren't things that are possible.
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@pie_flavor Again, please look up the word "ideal" in a dictionary.
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- Ideal (adj)
- satisfying one's conception of what is perfect; most suitable.
Now, back to what we were talking about. You can either tell me that what you were saying is actually feasible to implement, which will be amusing, or you can tell me that there is sense in complaining that it isn't implemented in a way that is completely infeasible to implement, which will be amusing.
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@dcon said in Hey Google Maps, fuck you too:
I'm constantly forced to implement more in-your-face things like that
Ok, from now on I'll just blame you.
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@blakeyrat It's absolutely not ideal that an app can just do anything you don't want without you noticing it.
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@grunnen do you even know the definition of ideal lol stop arguing </
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