New from Samsung: Fire and explosions
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@dcon said in New from Samsung: Fire and explosions:
@Weng said in New from Samsung: Fire and explosions:
Or, knowing Samsung's internal politics, Solidworks flagged it as a problem and they ignored it because the warning message wasn't in Korean.
Or because it was reported by a non-Korean and a Korean designed it.
Honestly? Yeah, probably this.
Oh and just to make it even more awesome, guess who's getting fired?
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@sloosecannon said in New from Samsung: Fire and explosions:
@dcon said in New from Samsung: Fire and explosions:
@Weng said in New from Samsung: Fire and explosions:
Or, knowing Samsung's internal politics, Solidworks flagged it as a problem and they ignored it because the warning message wasn't in Korean.
Or because it was reported by a non-Korean and a Korean designed it.
Honestly? Yeah, probably this.
Oh and just to make it even more awesome, guess who's getting fired?
Duh.
KILL THE MESSENGER!!!
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@Adynathos said in New from Samsung: Fire and explosions:
surveys show people want thicker phones with more battery life, but actual sales show they want thinner phones despite their technical disadvantages
The confounder there is the overriding desire for the latest, newest, my-workmates-don't-have-this-yet thing - which is pretty much always thinner.
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@Adynathos said in New from Samsung: Fire and explosions:
@Weng said in New from Samsung: Fire and explosions:
internal structure of the phone literally crushing a percentage of batteries
I heard surveys show people want thicker phones with more battery life, but actual sales show they want thinner phones despite their technical disadvantages.
So now we have reached a technical disadvantage that may outweigh that.I wonder if that means there's a statistical correlation between participating in surveys about phones, and having reasonably-sized pockets or preferring belt carry.
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@kilroo I mean, everyone I know who buys top of the line smartphones immediately stuffs them in thick, rugged cases. An increasing number of those are even battery cases.
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@cheong said in New from Samsung: Fire and explosions:
Using water to put out the fire caused by battery will just make the fire spread.
It's been demonstrated several times that it, actually, won't. Cooling lithium-ion batteries or devices powered by them with water is approved (by FAA and likely others) solution and lithium-ion battery fires have been handled by dumping the device in a bucket of water successfully before.
It is metal lithium that reacts with water (though not as violently as sodium), but the battery does not contain that; it contains lithium cobalt oxide. Cooling it with water will not stop the release of heat, because the energy is already there, but it will absorb the heat and prevent the electrolyte, and any surrounding material, from catching fire.
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@Bulb said in New from Samsung: Fire and explosions:
@cheong said in New from Samsung: Fire and explosions:
Using water to put out the fire caused by battery will just make the fire spread.
It's been demonstrated several times that it, actually, won't. Cooling lithium-ion batteries or devices powered by them with water is approved (by FAA and likely others) solution and lithium-ion battery fires have been handled by dumping the device in a bucket of water successfully before.
It is metal lithium that reacts with water (though not as violently as sodium), but the battery does not contain that; it contains lithium cobalt oxide. Cooling it with water will not stop the release of heat, because the energy is already there, but it will absorb the heat and prevent the electrolyte, and any surrounding material, from catching fire.
Seems there is distinction between Lithium battery and Lithium metal battery. Rechargable lithium batteries fire can be put out with large amount of water but non-rechargable lithium material batteries cannot.
EDIT: Seems Wikipedia information mixed up both type of batteries. Checked non-rechargable CR2032 does contain Lithum metal, and the rechargable ones in the "Chemistry" section all use Lithum compounds.