Talking about poorly designed systems - don't you see the similarity here - CISCO has training courses which here they do in the "CISCO ACADEMY"!? Isn't it nice to train people to administer routers? I know there's lot to learn about network administration, but why should it all be related to cisco? Cisco's routers are just part of the system and there are lots of standarts about networking which aren't specific to cisco and after all the entire internet isn't based only on CISCO's. Same as Oracle's DBA courses, isn't it? Both Cisco and Oracle keep amazing me how they solve their poorly designed administration and actually make money out of it and claiming that they are actually the best, people who can actually deal with this crap should get high wages.
nsimeonov
@nsimeonov
Best posts made by nsimeonov
-
What about CISCO... don't you think in some ways it's exactly as Oracle?
Latest posts made by nsimeonov
-
RE: Linux on the Desktop? A long way off...
@ammoQ said:
@morbiuswilters said:
Desktop Linux is like some cruel joke. No matter what you use if you run into a problem the answer is always "well, distro X / package manager Y / desktop environment Z doesn't have those problems!" When you've finally tried them all and are back where you started the advice is then "well, you can always grab the source and write your own!"
I guess you prefer the "learn to like it or buy new hardware" approach of other operating systems?
Well, buying new hardware may be cheaper than wasting a week on some problem. Besides most of the nicest features of latest linux distros require good hardware and you cannot run them on an ancient Pentium/266Mhz machine, do you?
-
RE: "Could You Explain Programming Please"
@Yahweh said:
The average user loses 80 IQ points in the face of a computer.
Agreed, some people get on the negative side actually - they are close to offering Him (the Lord Computer) some donuts just to stay away from them and in case it decides to bite something :)
-
RE: Why do by hand when you can use SQL? (Temporary Tables)
@mr_cartesian said:
For all you elite hax0rs who think this wouldn't work with a temporary table, read the damn code: "Create Table "+user.getUserName()+"_contracts_temp"+ ... columns ... would not create a temp table in the true sense of the word in most RDBMS implementations. It would create a static table with the word "temp"in it. WTF?
Isn't that what I said? Temporary tables will not work for situation like this, because all data will vanish once the transaction is over. And yes this is not a real temporary table, just a regular table created for a while then deleted. I think the original poster realizes that and that's why his comments about this approach being enterprisey are...
-
RE: Why do by hand when you can use SQL? (Temporary Tables)
The real WTF is the 100M revenue for over 5 years for something like this. And even bigger WTF is that having so much money someone hired interns or God knows what experience the developers there had to develop this crap.
By the way: temporary tables wouldn't solve this problem because the data there would be automatically deleted once the transaction is over and since we're talking about web pages the connection would be lost once the page is rendered, so to maintain a transaction across different pages or between postbacks on the same page you have to use a windows service, message queues etc. - real enterprise s**t, not kid's toys!
-
RE: Why use Sql When you can do it by hand?
@PerdidoPunk said:
That's right, we're not in high school... Office politics are many times more volatile and there's much more at stake (one's job). I entered the corporate world in June fresh out of college and I'm slowly learning when to keep my mouth shut about things. I tried to point a bug (i mean a feature) out a month or two ago and got blasted for it.
A company where you get in trouble by pointing something that can get better and even proposing a solution is not a good place to build your carreer in first place. Instead of thanking you and assigning you to fix it they blasted you. Even if they had a million other things to work on that shouldn't be a problem and they could tell you that they are already aware of it but still didn't have the time to fix it. Either way far the normal situation would be from what you describe. Try to extrapolate how it would be 5 years from now and is that what you were dreaming about before you graduated... Not all companies are like that and this is the reason Alex started this job board here.
-
RE: Why use Sql When you can do it by hand?
PJH, I agree with you on that but let's call it on my bad habbits. I assume you didn't read any german book in original - then you would see that there are sentences there longer than my entire paragraph and that's far not the only sentence in the paragraph :)
-
RE: Why use Sql When you can do it by hand?
@element[0] said:
@nsimeonov said:
Actually it's your choice. But even if I put each sentence on a new line it wouldn't make it less to read, so you either read it or not. I don't see your point here. If you have problems reading it - increase the font :)
There's so many usability studies confirming that breaking up text with newlines makes it easier to read that i can't even be bothered citing one for you.
I think the words you are looking for are "sorry about that guys i'll use newlines more often in future" rather than the snide comments, you'll look like less of a dick ;-)
Ok, sorry guys! I will use new lines more often in the future :)
On the other hand I probably overreacted and yes, I know I'm "a dick", especially when it comes to my attitude about certain things and I intentionally prefer to act this way as it saves me lot of useless efforts and really really I hate being used and that happened to me in the past way too often. About being popular - probably I'm in my second puberty now or so, but to me it truly matters the opinion of a handful of people, about the rest - I don't really care.
I already have the reputation and skills so I don't think I have to impress anyone or be nice to everyone in the office to make my life easier and don't screw me up in front of the boss ... hey wait - actually I'm the boss now. Probably this is what changed my attitude the most, because I see now people using their charm to get others do their job, then those nice helpful guys have to work overtime to finish their own work and that's EXACTLY what happened to me in the past.
-
RE: Why use Sql When you can do it by hand?
@PJH said:
@nsimeonov said:
@PJH said:
On the other hand, please tell us how much more enjoyable your job will be if everyone hates your guts for being an interfering busybody.
are you blond?
No.
Are you going to answer my question?
Sure, here it is:
First of all - most of the time I tell someone how to stop doing stupid repetetive tasks I see real gratitude in their eyes and believe me some people evne came back with presents for me on the next day (usually candy, chocolate etc, but I got a nice whiskey bottle once).
Second I really enjoyed it when I was sent over to a city nearby (as consultant) to help a few accountants do their job faster and automate the process. They basically refused my advice and were creatively sabotaging it on each step, because they were thinking about being much smarter and since they were older they had the attitude: "who do you think you are? you're a kid and I know better than you how to do MY JOB" ... oh and they thought half of them would go. In this case the company owner sent me over there with specific instructions what to do + if I could figure out some minor details and perhals some similar stuff he couldn't think of "that would be great"-he said. In this case I was treated as enemy but I did my job. I documented everything and left the site a week later. The "BOSS" went a few weeks later and seeing they work the-old-way he instantly fired all of them. How about that?
Once again - you are assuming that I walk around the office bothering other people how to do their job better. That's not even close! But seeing someone who spends days and days every damn week on something easily done with a few clicks by a new report or importing data from another system whenever possible - I wouldn't skip talking about the better/easier way. Sometimes it's worth the cost sometimes not but so far the company owners were quite happy for freeing their employees for other tasks but wasting their time on re-typing sh*t and I didn't hear a single complaint from an employee or something, they were usually asking me "when will you be ready with this damn report and may it be today by 5pm since I have to prepare the stuff for tomorrow".
@PJH said:
Are you seriously telling me you expect people to bother reading something presented like this?:
Actually it's your choice. But even if I put each sentence on a new line it wouldn't make it less to read, so you either read it or not. I don't see your point here. If you have problems reading it - increase the font :)
-
RE: Why use Sql When you can do it by hand?
@belgariontheking said:
Hitting enter every once in a while won't hurt anyone. It makes it more likely for someone to read your entire post.
Good to be politically correct, eh? :)
-
RE: Why use Sql When you can do it by hand?
@Heron said:
nsimeonov... that's just sad. Popularity could help you keep your job if there are problems. It could get you raises... if you're popular with your boss(es), which you likely will be if you're increasing efficiency everywhere.
I'm afraid you missed my point. I'm not a monkey and I wouldn't entertain colleagues to get popular. I would do my work and interfere with everyone to get it done easier, faster and better. I HATE lazy and stupid people. And if someone isn't happy of me when I point a better or easier way to do his own job it's not my problem. If he/she ignores me I would go straight to his/her boss and speak about that. [[let's use enter here to improve readability for blond people]]
So far I was popular everywhere I worked. A few times I was way too helpful and at a point I was basically doing other people's stuff besides my own for a while just to show them how faster or better it would be if they do what I say. If they don't like me being a smartass - that's not my problem ... yes I had experience like this, they just refused to do what I said and kept wasting 3x more time on the same, so I spoke to the boss - fair enough isn't it? Why I did it? Because those people were supposed to help me besides typing documentation and since they were too busy doing this I had to work overtime to get the job done in time (they were leaving at 5pm SHARP. You tell me if that's fair or not and what would you do if you were on my place?
@Heron said:My point is, it never hurts to be popular. Everyone at that job liked me *except* the boss, and noone liked the boss, and the boss had other problems. And even though the boss didn't like me, I was able to use the list of things I had automated to ask for (and get) a raise.
Sure, but people complaining that you are interfering with what they do even if you help them and point them a better way (being a busybody). I wouldn't even care if someone can safe 5 minutes out of 3 hours or so, but seeing how to save hours or even days of work with a few clicks - I woulnd't just walk away... that's what I was talking about. I wouldn't insist on going through the entire process to see how everyone works and give performance advices (unless that's what I am hired for) but if I occasionally see something wrong that would save hours and hours every day - I will try to "fix" it.